Deathless run strategy (thread maybe?)

jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
Well I kinda just wanted to put everything on the table bc we know all of thanos abilities and synergies, Ill post a link at the bottom of the post.

Here's what I'm thinking for the deathless run.
Champs: Vision (r1 sig 20) Guillotine (r1 sig 20) King Groot (r1 unduped, had to buy the piece last week so I didn't dupe him) She Hulk (r2 sig 20), and Thanos (will be r3 unduped)

I'm going to run Titania through guardian path.
Titania: Deathless she Hulk fight. I've already solod while unboosted and r2. The Thanos synergy makes her debuffs AAR immune so tranquilize won't be a problem.
Vision: This is the only fight where I see a problem. I've tried she Hulk and she can reliably take down I'd say around 30-45 percent with proper play. Thanos won't be great. But if you have a ranked up Guillotine she will be amazing. With Thanos's synergies, she will nullify and place 150% neutralize on sp1. This can control aarkus power control and coldsnap. This will be a rough fight for me.
Omega Sentinel. I feel like Thanos was built for this fight. First fight of the quest so you start with 30 energy. Heavy and boom she's armour broken and armor shattered for the rest of the fight, if you play right.
Air-walker: While I feel that DSH with the taunt might be pretty good Thanos has the Doom and Chavez thing so it will be very easy to get heavy openings basically getting rid of the necropolis node. So I will probably use Thanos
Cap Britain: Anyone really. She hulk won't be great bc of the exhaustion so I will prob go with Thanos.
Wiccan: She hulk fight. Can bait sp1 if I need to bc tramus will cancel healing with despair. Should be an easy one
Psycho man: Again, having the heavy stun will help Thanos with the heavy prompt, and the increased power gain is especially helpful to Thanos.

And that's the first half. I feel like the only fight I'm unprepared for is AARKUS but I'm sure I can figure it out.

Gaurdian: DKG was given an undermine by synergies I feel for this fight but when you can just armor shatter with Thanos, why bother? Thanos will do very well
Valkyrie: I want to try deathless vision here. Hear me out: With the Thanos synergy, he gains the power drain that Prowler has where if there's power left after the special it's drained and he gains a phase charge. That makes him very viable for this fight. His damage is low but hopefully, the Thanos synergy makes it better. Thanos won't work well here because Valkyrie will bypass Unstoppable with her sig, and you use unstoppable offensively a lot with Thanos. And she Hulk won't work bc of purify.
Red Guardian: Thanos won't be good bc if Red G throws sp1 then you're slowed and you can't use unsoppable. So it's gonna be a She-Hulk fight for me.
Cap Sam: Thanos. He controls armor pretty damn well if you haven't figured that out yet.
Dragon Man: She-Hulk will be amazing for this fight. The stun immunity and power gain won't be too much of a problem bc you want the opponent to constantly be throwing specials anyway. If it gets really bad she has power gain control on her sp2.
CAIW: EWW, I'm scared of this fight. I want to use she hulk but SO MUCH GLANCING! I think imma use Thanos and spam sp3 for the indefinite corrosion. It's not going to be a pretty fight for anyone.
Nova. I feel that Thanos will be pretty good as he doesn't have any unblockable that I know of so it's just a big nova.

And then the GM.
I f*ckin hate fighting this guy. I'm terrible at it. Will use team revives and unit man. Deathless vision for the final phase because he gains reverse control immunity with Thanos synergy.

Thanos details and synergies: https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-thanos-deathless/
Synergies at the bottom


I made this thread to share how I think I will take this challenge with my current roster. Any tips, tricks, or advice is greatly appreciated. If you guys want to designate this as the thread for the discussion around strategizing for this challenge, I definitely don't mind. Let me know you're thoughts. This took way too long to type out and edit (hopefully no spelling mistakes, fingers crossed).

jj jj~9
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  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,472 ★★★★★
    Well I have

    R3 Gully
    R2 KG
    R2 Vision
    R2 She hulk
    Then will R2 thanos


    I havn't checked all the synergies yet but what I will do is the following.


    Titania - She hulk

    Aarkus - Gully

    Omega Sentinel - Thanos (maybe KG?)

    Airwalker - I was thinking gully since those degen on r3 will tick alot. But she hulk should do this. Actually anyone should be able to if you knock him out enough.

    Cap brittain - Vision (should have reverse control immune if im correct). Also has class advantage and in my opinion he hits hard enough will the full synergy team.

    Wiccan - She hulk defs here. But Gully should also be able to work if you can get that sp2 off now and then. But mostly shw hulk because of the traumas his regen will be shut off.

    Psychoman - I hate this fight a lot. So probably thanos / kg and she hulk.

    Apocalypse - Im thinking either Vision or she hulk. He can phase his sp1 atleast since im only able to dex his sp2.

    Tigra - She hulk. Class advantage and should be able to do it in 2 - 3 revives if you're unlucky.

    Hercules - Id just use gully here since shes R3. Class advantages + full boosts (she has duped 6* GR relic also). Should nuke him to be honest.

    Sam wilson - Thanos / KG. Its pretty straight forward. No need to worry about rupture if played right.

    Dragon man - She hulk shuts him down.

    Cap infinity war - Probably a mix of anyone in the team as he is not difficult to fight at all.

    Nova - Again. Gully strat or just she hulk.


    Grandmaster - Vision the whole fight (should be able to get the solo)

    Pretty basic setup but this is what im going for
  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
    @Ghostboytjie Seems like you're a much better player then I am, if you''re gonna solo the gm with a mid champ. I wish the best of luck
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,472 ★★★★★
    jj_jj_9 said:

    @Ghostboytjie Seems like you're a much better player then I am, if you''re gonna solo the gm with a mid champ. I wish the best of luck

    He is reverse control immune. He should be able to do enough damage on wounded to get the solo
  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
    @Ghostboytjie how will you pause the charges during the wounded though?
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,472 ★★★★★
    Now that I think of it. Doesn't grandmaster bypass phase? Like he doesn't miss? Or only act 6 one?

    Only problem challenge will be "inflict damaging debuff".

    So if we can't build furies the fight should take a little longer but he should still be able to get the solo
  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
    edited January 7
    First of all, he can't miss. Also you can inflict a dmaging effect with the sp1, but he's immune to power burn so you can't. So you couldn't even gain phase charges in the first place. @Ghostboytjie
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,472 ★★★★★
    jj_jj_9 said:

    First of all, he can't miss. Also you can inflict a dmaging effect with the sp1, but he's immune to power burn so you can't. So you couldn't even gain phase charges in the first place. @Ghostboytjie

    No need to gain phase charges. His reverse control immune is what you want anyways. Itll just be a longer fight but a solo is defs possible still
  • Phantøm_EchøPhantøm_Echø Member Posts: 112 ★★
    Can deathless she-hulk do the apocalypse lane?
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★

    Can deathless she-hulk do the apocalypse lane?

    Yes thats the lane im doing as shes immune to ruptures so she shouldnt take any of the burst hits
  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
    @Bendy How does rupture immunity matter?
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 969 ★★★★
    Tigra places rupture in block
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★
    edited January 7
    jj_jj_9 said:

    @Bendy How does rupture immunity matter?

    Tigra fight is the reason for the rupture immune as i believe it will ignore tigras necro ability otherwise it wouldnt be there if it wasnt for tigra just like her vs titania is reason why her debuffs can stick even if tranqualize


  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,560 ★★★★★
    edited January 7
    Running the same path. Took She Hulk to r3 and she will do most of the work for me. The rest are r2. Kabam seemingly gave us all the tools we need with the synergies, so I'm not overly concerned about the run.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★
    Raganator said:

    Running the same path. Took She Hulk to r3 and she will do most of the work for me. The rest are r2. Kabam seemingly gave us all the tools we need with the synergies, so I'm not overly concerned about the run.

    Same only fight that might be annoying is aarkus since gotta rush sp1 with deathless guilly but rest seem pretty easy to know the plan which is defo the apoc lane section 2 as why give rupture immune if not doing that lane
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 2,006 ★★★★★
    I have them all at r2. I got a Science r3 Gem that I'm saving to see if She-Hulk is worth it or Pappa Luke.
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,273 ★★★★
    Wait visions reverse control immune?!? Omg I thought I was going to have to throw 100 revives in that last phase
  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,485 ★★★★
    I'm trying to find a reason not to R2 DKG, but if the Guardian path in section 2 is indeed the more viable option, I may be forced to.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,090 Guardian
    Something to keep in mind for OS is that maidenless thanos only starts with 30 necro energy at sig 200. Saw you were relying on that in your initial strategy.

  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
    Pikolu said:

    Something to keep in mind for OS is that maidenless thanos only starts with 30 necro energy at sig 200. Saw you were relying on that in your initial strategy.

    Good point.

    @jcphillips7 Theres not a single fight you need DKG for that thanos can't do. And thanos is definately worth the r3
  • SquammoSquammo Member Posts: 585 ★★★
    After having explored last year and done all the new challenges later on, I think this will probably be the most relaxed and less stressful Necropolis run of them all. Not having to choose whom to bring is a huge thing already. 5 set champs and done. Plus the Kabam team put great effort into all the synergies to give us counters to basically all the fights on the path.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★

    I'm trying to find a reason not to R2 DKG, but if the Guardian path in section 2 is indeed the more viable option, I may be forced to.

    Theres a better path which is the apoc lane
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 2,006 ★★★★★
    It was pretty silly of them to add King Groot when Thanos was gonna be OP. Would have much preferred to have a skill or mutant deathless. I'd prefer still as that's the worst class and it would have given them a chance to give us Deathless Moon Knight.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★

    It was pretty silly of them to add King Groot when Thanos was gonna be OP. Would have much preferred to have a skill or mutant deathless. I'd prefer still as that's the worst class and it would have given them a chance to give us Deathless Moon Knight.

    I do agree to ignore the overlap it should of been a different class
  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,560 ★★★★★

    Wait visions reverse control immune?!? Omg I thought I was going to have to throw 100 revives in that last phase

    Only with the Thanos synergy, not in his base kit.
  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 187 ★★
    Bendy said:

    It was pretty silly of them to add King Groot when Thanos was gonna be OP. Would have much preferred to have a skill or mutant deathless. I'd prefer still as that's the worst class and it would have given them a chance to give us Deathless Moon Knight.

    I do agree to ignore the overlap it should of been a different class
    I was extremely frustrated about that as well. I'm still salty I missed the first ever AW showcase and missed a DKG peice. Had to sink 5k units into him.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★
    jj_jj_9 said:

    Bendy said:

    It was pretty silly of them to add King Groot when Thanos was gonna be OP. Would have much preferred to have a skill or mutant deathless. I'd prefer still as that's the worst class and it would have given them a chance to give us Deathless Moon Knight.

    I do agree to ignore the overlap it should of been a different class
    I was extremely frustrated about that as well. I'm still salty I missed the first ever AW showcase and missed a DKG peice. Had to sink 5k units into him.
    That sucks especially knowing now theres overlap
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,439 ★★★★★
    edited January 7

    It was pretty silly of them to add King Groot when Thanos was gonna be OP. Would have much preferred to have a skill or mutant deathless. I'd prefer still as that's the worst class and it would have given them a chance to give us Deathless Moon Knight.

    Agree with this - we lack a skill and mutant class - would have been nice to get one instead of 2 cosmics.

    Ah well Ares looks like he will be skill (and a new addition based on the trailer) so maybe we can get him at some point as a deathless character, and a mutant in similar manner.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,870 ★★★★★
    Bugmat78 said:

    It was pretty silly of them to add King Groot when Thanos was gonna be OP. Would have much preferred to have a skill or mutant deathless. I'd prefer still as that's the worst class and it would have given them a chance to give us Deathless Moon Knight.

    Agree with this - we lack a skill and mutant class - would have been nice to get one instead of 2 cosmics.

    Ah well Ares looks like he will be skill (and a new addition based on the trailer) so maybe we can get him at some point as a deathless character, and a mutant in similar manner.
    Thats if the ares is a deathless then it be a skill one but will see but i now pray we do get a mutant deathless of like maybe wolverine or maybe even a deathless rogue be cool
  • Zephyre33Zephyre33 Member Posts: 202
    jj_jj_9 said:

    Well I kinda just wanted to put everything on the table bc we know all of thanos abilities and synergies, Ill post a link at the bottom of the post.

    Here's what I'm thinking for the deathless run.
    Champs: Vision (r1 sig 20) Guillotine (r1 sig 20) King Groot (r1 unduped, had to buy the piece last week so I didn't dupe him) She Hulk (r2 sig 20), and Thanos (will be r3 unduped)

    I'm going to run Titania through guardian path.
    Titania: Deathless she Hulk fight. I've already solod while unboosted and r2. The Thanos synergy makes her debuffs AAR immune so tranquilize won't be a problem.
    Vision: This is the only fight where I see a problem. I've tried she Hulk and she can reliably take down I'd say around 30-45 percent with proper play. Thanos won't be great. But if you have a ranked up Guillotine she will be amazing. With Thanos's synergies, she will nullify and place 150% neutralize on sp1. This can control aarkus power control and coldsnap. This will be a rough fight for me.
    Omega Sentinel. I feel like Thanos was built for this fight. First fight of the quest so you start with 30 energy. Heavy and boom she's armour broken and armor shattered for the rest of the fight, if you play right.
    Air-walker: While I feel that DSH with the taunt might be pretty good Thanos has the Doom and Chavez thing so it will be very easy to get heavy openings basically getting rid of the necropolis node. So I will probably use Thanos
    Cap Britain: Anyone really. She hulk won't be great bc of the exhaustion so I will prob go with Thanos.
    Wiccan: She hulk fight. Can bait sp1 if I need to bc tramus will cancel healing with despair. Should be an easy one
    Psycho man: Again, having the heavy stun will help Thanos with the heavy prompt, and the increased power gain is especially helpful to Thanos.

    And that's the first half. I feel like the only fight I'm unprepared for is AARKUS but I'm sure I can figure it out.

    Gaurdian: DKG was given an undermine by synergies I feel for this fight but when you can just armor shatter with Thanos, why bother? Thanos will do very well
    Valkyrie: I want to try deathless vision here. Hear me out: With the Thanos synergy, he gains the power drain that Prowler has where if there's power left after the special it's drained and he gains a phase charge. That makes him very viable for this fight. His damage is low but hopefully, the Thanos synergy makes it better. Thanos won't work well here because Valkyrie will bypass Unstoppable with her sig, and you use unstoppable offensively a lot with Thanos. And she Hulk won't work bc of purify.
    Red Guardian: Thanos won't be good bc if Red G throws sp1 then you're slowed and you can't use unsoppable. So it's gonna be a She-Hulk fight for me.
    Cap Sam: Thanos. He controls armor pretty damn well if you haven't figured that out yet.
    Dragon Man: She-Hulk will be amazing for this fight. The stun immunity and power gain won't be too much of a problem bc you want the opponent to constantly be throwing specials anyway. If it gets really bad she has power gain control on her sp2.
    CAIW: EWW, I'm scared of this fight. I want to use she hulk but SO MUCH GLANCING! I think imma use Thanos and spam sp3 for the indefinite corrosion. It's not going to be a pretty fight for anyone.
    Nova. I feel that Thanos will be pretty good as he doesn't have any unblockable that I know of so it's just a big nova.

    And then the GM.
    I f*ckin hate fighting this guy. I'm terrible at it. Will use team revives and unit man. Deathless vision for the final phase because he gains reverse control immunity with Thanos synergy.

    Thanos details and synergies: https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-thanos-deathless/
    Synergies at the bottom


    I made this thread to share how I think I will take this challenge with my current roster. Any tips, tricks, or advice is greatly appreciated. If you guys want to designate this as the thread for the discussion around strategizing for this challenge, I definitely don't mind. Let me know you're thoughts. This took way too long to type out and edit (hopefully no spelling mistakes, fingers crossed).

    jj jj~9

    in omega senti fight thanos wont start with 30 charges because hes unduped
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