Awakening gems for a single sig stone?

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  • BloodyRoseBloodyRose Member Posts: 243

    Buttehrs said:

    Wozzle007 said:

    Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.

    The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.

    I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
    To be 100% fair here, that's something you guys need to think about anytime you release a new progression title. Not a year or more later.
    This actually doesn't change anything. Even if we hadn't released Paragon or Valiant, the TB EQ rewards still wouldn't be appropriate for current end-game players, regardless of the fact they would still be called Thronebreaker.
    @Kabam Crashed there's no pleasing anyone. Imagine if you announced that players could only sell them for gold?!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,718 ★★★★★
    Bazooka_1 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    So again this really only benifits the major spenders who have 100s of gems but the majority of people might have 10 or so. And well you work for kabam so I doubt you really pay for anything so the example of u have something in-game doesn't really carry much weight does it? In fact you're credibility is shot. Especially after it's came out that you just add stuff to select accounts because you feel like it. I'm sure you and your friends have a ton of stuff that other people don't.
    Wrong. They pay for their own Account purchases. There are test accounts they have access to for work purposes, but it's been made clear all the way back when Ad0ra was here that they receive no freebies.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 977 ★★★★
    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.

    All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.

    Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.

    Knowing how Crashed has communicated in the past, he’s probably not exaggerating. We may not agree with the offer structure, but I’m sure there are a small number of players with a ridiculous amount of AGs. It’s not from collecting the gems themselves, we are talking about players who have opened so many six star crystals that awakening champs has never been an issue.
  • Wozzle007Wozzle007 Member Posts: 1,080 ★★★★★

    Wozzle007 said:

    Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.

    The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.

    I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
    I guess for me this is this is a difference without a distinction. We should have monthly content for Valiant players. As it stands 6* AG (amongst others) are often the best that Valiant players can get but are now useless, given that one of the top monthly rewards is now worth 1 7* Sig stone that we would find useful.
    Even the dust we get I’m finding not worth the effort to try and obtain anymore. So yes we absolutely need monthly valiant level rewards linked to valiant level difficulty. Given we have had paragon difficulty for 3 years in May and we don’t even have that difficulty level yet with rewards, everything feels like it’s behind the curve. I am a pretty average Valiant player but my account is far beyond the difficulty level available that the monthly content and rewards are pretty trivial, except the time taken to complete which makes them for me a waste of time. For some balance the AOA is great and the Carinas have been great. Working my way through these.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,310 ★★★★★
    edited January 10
    Holy quote mess Batman
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,069 ★★★★
    i don't like the exchange rate but this is better than nothing. endgame players don't really need gems anymore and 7r4s are going to make 6*s de facto obsolete.

    i assume this is a permanent ability so we can't be greedy by asking for 7* AG shards (those will be monetized) or a ridiculous amount of stones because then kabam wouldn't give us 6* AGs, it's that simple lol.

    it's one of those take it or leave it situations.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,441 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    If a player has hundreds of 6* AGs then they are a big enough whale that getting a 7* AG won't matter.

    Even something as little as 100 shards for a generic and 50 for a class would be better than a single sig stone.
    No it wouldn't. No reasonably intelligent player would make that trade in general, because there is no inventory cap for 6* AGs. So the only reason to trade them for 7* AG shards would be if you were going to actually form one. Otherwise, some tiny amount of shards would be meaningless, in the sense that the only players actually trading them in would be the ones with hundreds. The people with dozens would just do nothing. So such a trade would not benefit the vast majority of players who have a significant surplus of 6* AGs but not enough to form 7* AGs with such a trade.

    Any exchange rate for 7* AG shards is either too small for most players, or so large that Kabam would have to cap the amount that the top whales have accumulated. And both options defeat the purpose of creating the trade in the first place, which is to give players with unusable 6* AGs a way to actually use them.
    The solution is not to create a better trade value (at this pint that is moot) but to create a better valued reward for monthly event objectives. Instead of a 6* awakening gem, it's time to change that to a certain amount of 7* gem shards.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,069 ★★★★
    edited January 10
    kvirr said:

    I don’t understand why we as a playerbase are so ungrateful, this is nice of them to do and they aren’t obligated too.


    You get what you get and you don’t get upset

    the mouthbreathers in the community swore up and down in the banquet sucks thread that they're reasonable people.

    another day, another complaint...same bozos. it never changes.
  • PandingoPandingo Member Posts: 1,159 ★★★★
    edited January 10
    I appreciate kabam getting back to us with their logic and thought process. But id wager the people who have hundreds of them sitting also have all of their 7*s pretty much awakened and sigged up. If economy is a concern wouldn't it have been better to limit the amount you can sell each week then? if thats the argument rather than nuke the value of AGs? Those people have an advantage either way. I don't think this is a failure or anything but it definitely isn't incentive to sell for 95+% of the valiant community. People with that many awakening gems (I'm considered a whale and have nothing close to that so idk how there are people with hundreds of 6* awakening gems) are already equipped with accounts that we will never match. It will always come down to skill against those ginamo whales.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,069 ★★★★
    Polygon said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.


    I can assure you most dont have anywhere near this amount. I'm one of the biggest hoarders in the game and I only have 17.





    Could check the data as well to see how many have 40+ like you, but a 1 +5 sig stone wouldnt be game breaking i feel
    i have 44 and use 1 or 2 a month on the new champs.

    unfortunately a +5 sig trade is not in their budget or else they would have done that so we got the maximum allowable amount.





  • PandingoPandingo Member Posts: 1,159 ★★★★

    kvirr said:

    I don’t understand why we as a playerbase are so ungrateful, this is nice of them to do and they aren’t obligated too.


    You get what you get and you don’t get upset

    the mouthbreathers in the community swore up and down in the banquet sucks thread that they're reasonable people.

    another day, another complaint...same bozos. it never changes.
    It's not a complaint thread for that reason love. It's simply an observation of an underwhelming value nuke. Would you do a month long event or grind incursions for 25 levels for a single 7* sig stone? It just doesn't balance or really make sense. They responded. I personally appreciate the response. We don't HAVE to sell. And many won't. Thats that. But opinions are permitted and ideas shared. I think it would have been nice to make the trade a little more value and limit the frequency you can sell. (Or trade) OR tie in a trade value that is part of black iso market or something to raise it and put a price on it. I don't value single sig stones as much as a 6* ag. That's that. So I don't have to participate. Nbd. As for banquet. It's a spending event. Who cares if the crystals were awful. Don't spend. Again. I did. I finished top 500. And I have zero complaints. I knew what I was opening. I have almost nothing to show for it. That was my decision. And I have nothing to complain about. But I don't see the value in this sale option. Now I shared. 🥰
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,069 ★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    I understand why isn’t more but can I ask why wasn’t it AG shard considered that’s is in game obviously not 1k for one my maybe 500 from them. Just a thought i would like to hear why it wasn’t considered. Since you might hav a lot to say one this
    if they were 500 shards per gem i'd get 2x 7* AG crystals right now for doing nothing. why would they give away a top 4 resource for free if they could make money on it instead?
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 460 ★★★
    edited January 10

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    How in the world do you have 50 Awakening Gems? I have a bigger roster than you (as a big spender) and haven’t awakened a 6-star in ages because I haven’t needed to, yet I only have eight generic Awakening Gems. The total number of awakening gems is 24. What you’re stating is more than I have and I find it hard to believe.
  • Shamir51Shamir51 Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★★
    Pandingo said:

    kvirr said:

    I don’t understand why we as a playerbase are so ungrateful, this is nice of them to do and they aren’t obligated too.


    You get what you get and you don’t get upset

    the mouthbreathers in the community swore up and down in the banquet sucks thread that they're reasonable people.

    another day, another complaint...same bozos. it never changes.
    Would you do a month long event or grind incursions for 25 levels for a single 7* sig stone?

    Why not? People are currently doing that for an item they say is useless and irrelevant let alone the fact that you get a bunch of other stuff if you do either monthly EQ or incursion. Unless you think people are doing either of those just for the 6* AG?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,310 ★★★★★
    Pandingo said:

    kvirr said:

    I don’t understand why we as a playerbase are so ungrateful, this is nice of them to do and they aren’t obligated too.


    You get what you get and you don’t get upset

    the mouthbreathers in the community swore up and down in the banquet sucks thread that they're reasonable people.

    another day, another complaint...same bozos. it never changes.
    It's not a complaint thread for that reason love. It's simply an observation of an underwhelming value nuke. Would you do a month long event or grind incursions for 25 levels for a single 7* sig stone? It just doesn't balance or really make sense. They responded. I personally appreciate the response. We don't HAVE to sell. And many won't. Thats that. But opinions are permitted and ideas shared. I think it would have been nice to make the trade a little more value and limit the frequency you can sell. (Or trade) OR tie in a trade value that is part of black iso market or something to raise it and put a price on it. I don't value single sig stones as much as a 6* ag. That's that. So I don't have to participate. Nbd. As for banquet. It's a spending event. Who cares if the crystals were awful. Don't spend. Again. I did. I finished top 500. And I have zero complaints. I knew what I was opening. I have almost nothing to show for it. That was my decision. And I have nothing to complain about. But I don't see the value in this sale option. Now I shared. 🥰
    Well obviously you don't, not long ago you made a post about lower catalyst and lower sig stones being removed from BG Store; the game is not worked around you. And to be honest you should be happy the trade is low. You are only seeing it as low cause you don't have many and value it more. Someone who has 50 would get so much more than you would...
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,310 ★★★★★

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    How in the world do you have 50 Awakening Gems? I have a bigger roster than you and haven’t awakened a 6-star in ages because I haven’t needed to, yet I only have eight generic Awakening Gems—which the excess will expire if I don’t use them.
    How on earth did you get expiring date on an item that has no stash limit...
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 2,425 ★★★★★

    So, all you complainers would rather sell them for the little bit of gold?

    And then argue with a dev that there's no way people can have hundreds of AG's, when the dev clearly has access to data that we don't. Lmao

    There's alot of clowns in this world and these forums never disappoint.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 1,558 ★★★★

    Wozzle007 said:

    Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.

    The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.

    I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
    This is actually kind of an insane thing to have "at the top of your list of things to address this year" and not "something that's already close to execution."
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 460 ★★★

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.

    All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.

    Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
    I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.

    Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.

    Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
    This doesn’t make sense, i’m continously ranking top 100 in banquet, (top 20 this banquet) and been buying every package, yet I got close 30 awakening gems, no way close to what you’re stating. Please come to your senses. Thanks.
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 460 ★★★

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    How in the world do you have 50 Awakening Gems? I have a bigger roster than you and haven’t awakened a 6-star in ages because I haven’t needed to, yet I only have eight generic Awakening Gems—which the excess will expire if I don’t use them.
    How on earth did you get expiring date on an item that has no stash limit...
    That’s even worse, because I thought they were expiring. So naturally i got that many without any of them expiring.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,069 ★★★★
    edited January 10

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.

    All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.

    Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
    I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.

    Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.

    Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
    This doesn’t make sense, i’m continously ranking top 100 in banquet, (top 20 this banquet) and been buying every package, yet I got close 30 awakening gems, no way close to what you’re stating. Please come to your senses. Thanks.
    not sure how you're managing your resources but i'm a basic dolphin with 44 generics and i probably use 1-2 every month on the new champs. are you always doing the SQs and the top room in incursions every month? i never miss it.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,310 ★★★★★
    edited 12:06AM
    Imagine if they had said you could trade 75 or 100 for 1 7* AG, people would be furious, this better for an item that is just collecting dust.
  • Savage123456789Savage123456789 Member Posts: 837 ★★★★
    When does this offer come live?
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 460 ★★★

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.

    All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.

    Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
    I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.

    Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.

    Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
    This doesn’t make sense, i’m continously ranking top 100 in banquet, (top 20 this banquet) and been buying every package, yet I got close 30 awakening gems, no way close to what you’re stating. Please come to your senses. Thanks.
    There is literally someone in this thread that has over 150 (I just looked, they weren't lying either).
    I take I wasn’t paying much attention to AGs as some others are. Sorry if I was little too blatant. However most of mine are from monthy EQ.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,906 ★★★★★

    DinoHop05 said:

    Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.

    I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.

    Sorry but here's no way someone has "hundreds" of AGs. Even the biggest whales wouldn't be accumulating that many from the limited sources that provide them. I understand your position, but exaggerating to try to make your point hurts your credibility. It also makes you appear out of touch; even if a small handful of players somehow accumulated a significant number of 6* AGs, the vast majority of players do not. Maybe they have 10-20, or even 30, but they still don't have enough to make this trade-in a good value.

    All we want is for these rewards to mean something. The fact that they're valued so low just makes the events to which they're attached seem equally meaningless.

    Time and again your AG economy has shown to be unbalanced. It's a tale of two undesirable extremes: either we can't get an AG of a specific rarity when we need one, or we have so many AGs by the time we don't need any. It happened with 5* before 6*, and now as 7* AGs become a thing, you're repeating the same mistake. Break the cycle and make 7* AGs available in time for us to actually use them.
    I wasn't exaggerating, I looked at the data and there are players with hundreds of them... Sources aren't limited, they have been in the Banquet/gifting crystals for years.

    Like I said, if you don't see value don't trade yours in. Personally having 50 7-star sig stones is much more valuable than something I literally have no use for, but to each their own.

    Also, I think it's funny you think the solution to a surplus of awakening gems is to make awakening gems more available. That's not how this works.
    This doesn’t make sense, i’m continously ranking top 100 in banquet, (top 20 this banquet) and been buying every package, yet I got close 30 awakening gems, no way close to what you’re stating. Please come to your senses. Thanks.
    There is literally someone in this thread that has over 150 (I just looked, they weren't lying either).
    I take I wasn’t paying much attention to AGs as some others are. Sorry if I was little too blatant. However most of mine are from monthy EQ.
    U missed the monthly incursions give 1 every month
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