CCP Beta Test Maps should be available for everyone.

CandyCane2

As the title says, I think it should be available to everyone, and no changes should be made.

No nodes, you just test out your champs.
No rewards either, and the quest should not require energy to get through. Just an idea that I think a lot of people would want to see in the future or this year.

Demonzfyre

Nah

CandyCane2

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Why, “nah”?

smdam38

I have to agree with this one.

Kind of an unfair advantage for CCP.

SoulCrusher2099

I think it’s a great idea. I like the concept of the test map. No annoying nodes, just basic simple fights. There would need to be a good logical reason on why people think it’s a bad idea.

As you said, there wouldn’t be any rewards, not even gold or iso, so it would be an awesome idea and kabam wouldn’t have to worry about people farming resources.

Ashacekar

Practice maps with tough defenders seems helpful. In roster view if i practice since it its small healthpool, it doesn't work out.

For example, i want to practice Enchantress or a new counter to Serpie/Onsie/Bullsie, a map can surely help. Currently we mostly beat up winter soldier.

I appreciate atleast Trap in his YT channel does the counter videos on these maps though.

I guess Kabam would intend it to open to few who will instruct others like Trap, opening to all makes all skilled which won't work for them.

smdam38

And it’s all already there. Just not available to everyone.

kvirr

there was a thread for a practice map concept, I believed it was 24 fights, one of each class, each fight was a different healthpool, no nodes, no sp3, e.x black bolt 4x over, each a different lane, a 500k hp pool, 1m, 5m, 10m


@KabamPinwheel

kvirr

smdam38 said:

And it’s all already there. Just not available to everyone.

how is your defense attorney classes going ?

startropics

we shouldn't get the same maps as the ccp because they have defenders like serpent and it's not good for us if they let us have practice against the the latest defenders, because then they would have to make content harder.

i do think that they should give us a separate quest with no nodes, no rewards, aggressive AI, activated sp3, and only punching bags from each class with several options of very high health pools though.

smdam38

kvirr said:

smdam38 said:

And it’s all already there. Just not available to everyone.

how is your defense attorney classes going ?

Is this supposed to mean something or be some kind of gotcha?

How about focus on the post and not you not liking me ****.

CandyCane2

kvirr said:

there was a thread for a practice map concept, I believed it was 24 fights, one of each class, each fight was a different healthpool, no nodes, no sp3, e.x black bolt 4x over, each a different lane, a 500k hp pool, 1m, 5m, 10m


@KabamPinwheel

Yes. This would be awesome

CandyCane2

startropics said:

we shouldn't get the same maps as the ccp because they have defenders like serpent and it's not good for us if they let us have practice against the the latest defenders, because then they would have to make content harder.

i do think that they should give us a separate quest with no nodes, no rewards, aggressive AI, activated sp3, and only punching bags from each class with several options of very high health pools though.

And no energy required to play it

Demonzfyre

smdam38 said:

I have to agree with this one.

Kind of an unfair advantage for CCP.

In what way?

Demonzfyre

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Because then they aren't "CCP" maps. They have access to them because they earned them. They test professionally. You want what they have, become a member. Also having such easy access to practice, it will trivialize content/defenders, which means the game team has to make Everest content even more difficult or add more nodes etc...

There's plenty of ways for the rest of us to test champs.

smdam38

Demonzfyre said:

smdam38 said:

I have to agree with this one.

Kind of an unfair advantage for CCP.

In what way?

Because you get to endlessly practice against champs and figure out what works.

What’s hard to understand about that?

Demonzfyre

smdam38 said:

And it’s all already there. Just not available to everyone.

It's not "already there". It's on a completely different server.

Nemesis_17

Demonzfyre said:

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Because then they aren't "CCP" maps. They have access to them because they earned them. They test professionally. You want what they have, become a member. Also having such easy access to practice, it will trivialize content/defenders, which means the game team has to make Everest content even more difficult or add more nodes etc...

There's plenty of ways for the rest of us to test champs.

I can literally go to duel against any of these defenders using a weaker champ to try and simulate the healthpool of a bg match. The option to practice is already there, this would only make it more convenient, not open an entirely new door.

I also don’t think an opportunity for players to enhance their skills should ever be be seen as a negative.

Demonzfyre

Nemesis_17 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Because then they aren't "CCP" maps. They have access to them because they earned them. They test professionally. You want what they have, become a member. Also having such easy access to practice, it will trivialize content/defenders, which means the game team has to make Everest content even more difficult or add more nodes etc...

There's plenty of ways for the rest of us to test champs.

I can literally go to duel against any of these defenders using a weaker champ to try and simulate the healthpool of a bg match. The option to practice is already there, this would only make it more convenient, not open an entirely new door.

I also don’t think an opportunity for players to enhance their skills should ever be be seen as a negative.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be. I'm saying we shouldn't have access to the maps CCP has.

Y'all the same group who hates that TB gets Valiant rewards and now you want to take something that those members earned.

But duels exist for that reason, for you to practice. That's Kabam giving you that opportunity. Kabam isn't going to give the entire playerbase unfettered access to unlimited fights at no cost.

Demonzfyre

smdam38 said:

Demonzfyre said:

smdam38 said:

I have to agree with this one.

Kind of an unfair advantage for CCP.

In what way?

Because you get to endlessly practice against champs and figure out what works.

What’s hard to understand about that?

It's not an unfair advantage. There's like 20 to 25 of them and you can do the same. They're part of program that helps promote MCOC via YouTube and art. They don't get to practice on things like Everest content, unreleased story content but it's part of their compensation.

smdam38

Now you’re just making up ****.

There is absolutely no reason why someone with whatever number of followers should somehow get a huge advantage in this game.

startropics

CandyCane2 said:

startropics said:

we shouldn't get the same maps as the ccp because they have defenders like serpent and it's not good for us if they let us have practice against the the latest defenders, because then they would have to make content harder.

i do think that they should give us a separate quest with no nodes, no rewards, aggressive AI, activated sp3, and only punching bags from each class with several options of very high health pools though.

And no energy required to play it

we can't be greedy, there should be an energy cost like ROL. wouldn't be surprised if they made it 2 or higher.

CandyCane2

startropics said:

CandyCane2 said:

startropics said:

we shouldn't get the same maps as the ccp because they have defenders like serpent and it's not good for us if they let us have practice against the the latest defenders, because then they would have to make content harder.

i do think that they should give us a separate quest with no nodes, no rewards, aggressive AI, activated sp3, and only punching bags from each class with several options of very high health pools though.

And no energy required to play it

we can't be greedy, there should be an energy cost like ROL. wouldn't be surprised if they made it 2 or higher.

I guess you’re right there. In the real CCP there is an energy cost.

Nemesis_17

Demonzfyre said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Because then they aren't "CCP" maps. They have access to them because they earned them. They test professionally. You want what they have, become a member. Also having such easy access to practice, it will trivialize content/defenders, which means the game team has to make Everest content even more difficult or add more nodes etc...

There's plenty of ways for the rest of us to test champs.

I can literally go to duel against any of these defenders using a weaker champ to try and simulate the healthpool of a bg match. The option to practice is already there, this would only make it more convenient, not open an entirely new door.

I also don’t think an opportunity for players to enhance their skills should ever be be seen as a negative.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be. I'm saying we shouldn't have access to the maps CCP has.

Y'all the same group who hates that TB gets Valiant rewards and now you want to take something that those members earned.

But duels exist for that reason, for you to practice. That's Kabam giving you that opportunity. Kabam isn't going to give the entire playerbase unfettered access to unlimited fights at no cost.

Nobody is asking for this out of hatred over the idea of someone else having exclusive rewards. We want it because it’s a more convenient way for us to do something we already have the ability to do. This is much close to a QOL improvement than an exclusive reward being shared with a lower progression title.

And even if it was, it’s not as if this is the only thing that ccp members have access to that we don’t, lol. Remember they get completely free rankups to test each champ at an r3 level to make those test fights completely evenly matched. We don’t. We’re not out here asking for access or the beta server lol.

SoulCrusher2099

I don’t think this is a bad idea @Demonzfyre , so I’ll have to disagree with you.

It lets players fight and practice with there champs. The health pools get bigger the more you go into the quest, so it’s pretty fun. What players really like is that there aren’t any nodes. I don’t think kabam is losing anything here. For example, you can bring your new 7 star you got from a titan or regular crystal, and go fight og black bolt that starts with a small health pool, and then it gets larger.

And the CCP still has value. Members still get to test out new champs as 6 and 7 stars. We just get access to the test maps like they do. You aren’t gaining rewards from this quest. You’re gaining experience with your new champs.

kvirr

smdam38 said:

kvirr said:

smdam38 said:

And it’s all already there. Just not available to everyone.

how is your defense attorney classes going ?

Is this supposed to mean something or be some kind of gotcha?

How about focus on the post and not you not liking me ****.

liking you ? The only people who like you are the ones you defend in “I got banned for no reason” posts.

Don’t make a joke around this guy everyone. He takes it personal

JhonST33

I guess kabam don't do that just because the onslaugth effect, I mean when kabam place him on that seasonal event many of us learn how to dex his specials, similar to enchantress on alliance war showcase, I always have a bad time facing her but now it's just easy, so if they implement that kind of maps the game will become eventually so easy.

CandyCane2

JhonST33 said:

I guess kabam don't do that just because the onslaugth effect, I mean when kabam place him on that seasonal event many of us learn how to dex his specials, similar to enchantress on alliance war showcase, I always have a bad time facing her but now it's just easy, so if they implement that kind of maps the game will become eventually so easy.

I wouldn’t be mad if they were just regular champs like og iron man, og black widow, scarlet witch, og hulk, iron fist, black bolt, you get it.

BigBlueOx

Nemesis_17 said:

Demonzfyre said:

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Because then they aren't "CCP" maps. They have access to them because they earned them. They test professionally. You want what they have, become a member. Also having such easy access to practice, it will trivialize content/defenders, which means the game team has to make Everest content even more difficult or add more nodes etc...

There's plenty of ways for the rest of us to test champs.

I can literally go to duel against any of these defenders using a weaker champ to try and simulate the healthpool of a bg match. The option to practice is already there, this would only make it more convenient, not open an entirely new door.

I also don’t think an opportunity for players to enhance their skills should ever be be seen as a negative.

But fear mongering an invalid point should make it valid.

How dare you use logic in this way?!?

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Demonzfyre said:

Demonzfyre said:

Nah

Because then they aren't "CCP" maps. They have access to them because they earned them. They test professionally. You want what they have, become a member. Also having such easy access to practice, it will trivialize content/defenders, which means the game team has to make Everest content even more difficult or add more nodes etc...

There's plenty of ways for the rest of us to test champs.

wdym adding public testing maps will give "such easy access to practice" and "trivialise content/defenders". why do we have this then if that were the case?:

Nemesis_17

JhonST33 said:

I guess kabam don't do that just because the onslaugth effect, I mean when kabam place him on that seasonal event many of us learn how to dex his specials, similar to enchantress on alliance war showcase, I always have a bad time facing her but now it's just easy, so if they implement that kind of maps the game will become eventually so easy.

It wouldn’t have nearly as drastic of an impact as the onslaught SoS fight for 3 reasons.

1: Onslaught is a skill based defender. The way to make him significantly easier is to practice dexing & punishing his specials which is entirely based on your proficiency. Someone like serpent is already easy to fight mechanically so being able to practice against him isn’t gonna turn him into a nothing defender.

2: Onslaught got hit hard because he was the only champ we had the option to fight for 2 weeks. When you have multiple options you’re not gonna spam practicing against one champs as much.

3: Onslaught was basically mandatory if you wanted to keep up with SoS which was obviously very worth it to do. People who wanted to get good against onslaught had the option to do so a while before he was made an sos fight. I already knew how to dex his sp1 because I dueled my own 3*. We already have to option to learn these defenders this would just make it more convenient.