Rintrah Rooting

Since the update, I’m getting a lot of Rintrah rooting just beyond the hit box of the opponent. Obviously, this is less than optimal—being rooted a smidge away from being able to hit the defender, who is against the wall, renders the rooting mechanism less than useful.

Anyone else experiencing this? Thus far seen it in AW and EQ.

Dr. Zola

Comments

MrSakuragi

Yes, I’ve had this happen a couple of times in BG.

JackTheSnack

Yep, same here. I was wondering about this issue but shrugged it off as nothing the other day when I saw it happen. I took mine out for a test spin just testing how the 6 vs 7 star felt in ROL, and it did this. Not only this, but a lot of times when I’m rooted, if I do happen to be not in the corner, the attacker will just hold block away from me even though I’m steadily whiffing attacks

captain_rogers

I recently pulled him and I thought it was hit kit. Anyways he stays rooted for 0.5 seconds after the end of opponent special so you can't really punish opponent specials. Lol.

slothsan050

yeah, seems like a bug

DrZola

Appreciate the comments. After loving the 6*, I was stoked to dupe the 7*.

Still solid, but any champ stinks when they are stuck in place and can’t touch the defender.

Dr. Zola

DrZola

I recently pulled him and I thought it was hit kit. Anyways he stays rooted for 0.5 seconds after the end of opponent special so you can't really punish opponent specials. Lol.

This is another issue. Root stays a split second too long.

Dr. Zola

DrZola

Any action on this one? Any acknowledgment? Pretty significant bug for a champ recently released 7*—would appreciate recognition there may be something working incorrectly here…

I checked Trello but I have a suspicion it may be out of date…

Dr. Zola

DrZola

@KabamPinwheel could the team please take a look at this one? I’ve got two recurring issues: (1) Rintrah not being able to release from his root in time to punish a special and (2) Rintrah being rooted in place but unable to make contact with the defender’s hit box (especially when defender is against the wall).

Both are debilitating and not what I recall experiencing with the 6* version.

Many thanks!
Dr. Zola

Pikolu

Do you have a video of the whiffing issue? I know in the past when I used my 6* a ton, if you do a light ending attack that pushes the opponent into the wall on that hit, you'll get rooted, but they will be out of reach. I haven't had any issues with whiffing when I have them already against the wall before the end of my combo.

Pikolu

Also this is how he has always worked. You end the special root early if you're able to hit the opponent while they're recovering from their special. I did ask about it

I recently pulled him and I thought it was hit kit. Anyways he stays rooted for 0.5 seconds after the end of opponent special so you can't really punish opponent specials. Lol.

Heinz11

Experiencing the same

Chief_Wiggum

Not only is the root sometimes away from the wall.. where you can't reach them but when the defensive root happens ( on their specials) the root last for a sec too long so you can't retaliate and you get hit making the feature a detriment in most cases.

BeastDad

Add this to the long list of things that need to be fixed.

DrZola

@Pikolu I will try to provide a video, but the light finish isn’t the problem—my standard routine is to finish with M with Rintrah and it’s happening then.

Just finished Thanos boss off in AW and experienced both issues repeatedly. Honestly, issue (1) is perhaps the more debilitating now because getting stuck in root

Also this is how he has always worked. You end the special root early if you're able to hit the opponent while they're recovering from their special. I did ask about it
I recently pulled him and I thought it was hit kit. Anyways he stays rooted for 0.5 seconds after the end of opponent special so you can't really punish opponent specials. Lol.

Hmmm…maybe. As a long time user of the 6*, I thought I recalled being able to punish specials. Now it’s really not possible at all.

Out of town and done with game play for the moment. Will try to shoot a video @Pikolu as I am able.

Dr. Zola

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

The Root-Too-Far-Away issue has been a periodic issue with him since his release... It only happens if you start your combo in the perfect place to trigger Root while ALSO being out of range at the end.
I'll bring it up with the team to see if there's anything to look into there.

As for not being able to punish specials, Rintrah stays Rooted until the end of the Special animation from his 20 MC Special Attack Root... so a longer Special (Winter Soldier's Special 1... for example) will keep him put longer than Champion's without Idle animations after their Attacks. It's possible something got a little wonky with the update though, and I'll shoot a quick poke about that as well.

DrZola

The Root-Too-Far-Away issue has been a periodic issue with him since his release... It only happens if you start your combo in the perfect place to trigger Root while ALSO being out of range at the end.
I'll bring it up with the team to see if there's anything to look into there.

As for not being able to punish specials, Rintrah stays Rooted until the end of the Special animation from his 20 MC Special Attack Root... so a longer Special (Winter Soldier's Special 1... for example) will keep him put longer than Champion's without Idle animations after their Attacks. It's possible something got a little wonky with the update though, and I'll shoot a quick poke about that as well.

Thank you for looking at it.

It’s recent, and it feels a little off on releasing from root (and I’ve loved and used the Rintrah kit for a good while).

As for the “rooting just outside the hit box” issue, I haven’t been able to reproduce today, but it’s happened to me primarily with the defender against the wall. It’s almost as if he’s been pushed back just a tiny bit and unable to reach the defender.

Again—many thanks. Huge fan of the champ…

Dr. Zola

BeastDad

The Root-Too-Far-Away issue has been a periodic issue with him since his release....

Very few people have more total time using the 6* version of him than I do and that literally never happened to me even once.

I’ve been using the duped 7* for two weeks and it’s already happened at least 4 times.

Something has changed.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Any action on this one? Any acknowledgment? Pretty significant bug for a champ recently released 7*—would appreciate recognition there may be something working incorrectly here…

I checked Trello but I have a suspicion it may be out of date…

Dr. Zola

Also, that's the OLD Trello Board:

https://trello.com/b/nRszBz9Q/mcoc-community-bugs-and-issues-tracker

DrZola

Any action on this one? Any acknowledgment? Pretty significant bug for a champ recently released 7*—would appreciate recognition there may be something working incorrectly here…

I checked Trello but I have a suspicion it may be out of date…

Dr. Zola
Also, that's the OLD Trello Board:

https://trello.com/b/nRszBz9Q/mcoc-community-bugs-and-issues-tracker

Thank you!

Dr. Zola

DrZola

The Root-Too-Far-Away issue has been a periodic issue with him since his release....
Very few people have more total time using the 6* version of him than I do and that literally never happened to me even once.

I’ve been using the duped 7* for two weeks and it’s already happened at least 4 times.

Something has changed.

Thank you too. Once I figured out Rintrah when he was released, he became one of my favorite attackers. He was a no-brainer to R3 for me when I pulled him from the Titan, but his kit doesn’t appear to be working like it used to.

Dr. Zola

BeastDad

The Root-Too-Far-Away issue has been a periodic issue with him since his release....
Very few people have more total time using the 6* version of him than I do and that literally never happened to me even once.

I’ve been using the duped 7* for two weeks and it’s already happened at least 4 times.

Something has changed.
Thank you too. Once I figured out Rintrah when he was released, he became one of my favorite attackers. He was a no-brainer to R3 for me when I pulled him from the Titan, but his kit doesn’t appear to be working like it used to.

Dr. Zola

Same, one of my favorites all time and I instantly r3’d him as well.

Something is clearly wrong.

Oakenshield

The Root-Too-Far-Away issue has been a periodic issue with him since his release....
Very few people have more total time using the 6* version of him than I do and that literally never happened to me even once.

I’ve been using the duped 7* for two weeks and it’s already happened at least 4 times.

Something has changed.
Thank you too. Once I figured out Rintrah when he was released, he became one of my favorite attackers. He was a no-brainer to R3 for me when I pulled him from the Titan, but his kit doesn’t appear to be working like it used to.

Dr. Zola
Same, one of my favorites all time and I instantly r3’d him as well.

Something is clearly wrong.

I definitely don’t claim to have played my 6* anywhere near as much as @BeastDad but I did use him frequently. I also never encountered it with my 6*. I have had it happen 3 times in the last week since using a mystic gem to awaken my 7* last weekend. I don’t recall it happening before I had him awakened, so think it is possible it is related to his sig ability. Take that with a grain of salt though as I wasn’t using him as much prior to awakening him.

DrZola

@BeastDad and @Oakenshield and @Chief_Wiggum are you still experiencing this with Rintrah?

I use my R3 a lot in AW and it’s completely frustrating. It’s like he’s a different champ.

Dr. Zola

Average_Desi

I had this happen once yesterday. But I started my combo mid screen and ended on the light near the corner .

BeastDad

@BeastDad and @Oakenshield and @Chief_Wiggum are you still experiencing this with Rintrah?

I use my R3 a lot in AW and it’s completely frustrating. It’s like he’s a different champ.

Dr. Zola

Still happening frequently, I've stopped using him in AW now.

I bet if this bug caused him to instant kill an opponent it would be fixed in 5 minutes.

Oakenshield

@BeastDad and @Oakenshield and @Chief_Wiggum are you still experiencing this with Rintrah?

I use my R3 a lot in AW and it’s completely frustrating. It’s like he’s a different champ.

Dr. Zola

Work and other R/L matters have gotten in the way of my game time this week. Haven’t used him enough to be able to say one way or another @DrZola

DrZola

Still experiencing rooting out of range and for a split second too long.

Dramatically changes the usefulness of the champ and self-rooting as an attack benefit.

Is this still on the radar or is it being swept under the rug?

Dr. Zola

BeastDad

is it being swept under the rug?

I'd vote for under the rug.

DrZola

is it being swept under the rug?
I'd vote for under the rug.

Then I’d vote for RDTs.

Dr. Zola

Oakenshield

is it being swept under the rug?
I'd vote for under the rug.
Then I’d vote for RDTs.

Dr. Zola

Yeah, happened to me again in a BGs match the other day. Really unhappy I R3’d him given this bug.

But maybe the three of us are the only ones who care?