Older content

It’s clear now that most older content is borderline pointless in completing. This goes for brand new accounts or older accounts that never ‘got around’ to completing.

Example - Grandmasters Gauntlet. Rewards are simply not worth the grind. However, many of us have never completed.

Simple idea is an exclusive reward being added to the exploration of said content with the rewards being gated by progression. i.e New 2025 exploration of GG will grant you X champion. Would be a good way to introduce more 7* champs instead of the boring drip feed we’re currently getting.

This would be relevant to all special Quests currently without 7* exclusives (not Necro thank f***). Carina Volumes that are out of date. Back issues. And maybe even old Act exploration.

Kabam please give us something new to grind for using existing content. Otherwise 90% of your game is dead.

Comments

Buttehrs

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.

willrun4adonut

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.

Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.

GrabmeMCOC

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.

Are you deliberately picking holes in a suggestion for likes? Clearly I said special quests without 7* Exclusives. That obviously implies Carinas.

GrabmeMCOC

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.

They should add another 2 selectors to previous carinas. I’d love a Spidey 99

smdam38

I actually want to complete everything.
Even old stuff like those back issues

I’m not great at the game but do want to get to it eventually.

I honestly don’t get the folk that rush through stuff and then complain about not having anything to do.

Play the pvp stuff like battlegrounds then.
Rest of people are just playing for fun.
You’re not the majority.

ShashankGupta

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.

Haha so true atleast I was so lucky to get Starky in the July 4 crystal opening so I was able to dupe Starky from the Selector and also got massacre at the same time

GrabmeMCOC

I actually want to complete everything.
Even old stuff like those back issues

I’m not great at the game but do want to get to it eventually.

I honestly don’t get the folk that rush through stuff and then complain about not having anything to do.

Play the pvp stuff like battlegrounds then.
Rest of people are just playing for fun.
You’re not the majority.

The hell you on about? Who is rushing? There’s nothing to do!! I i only play BGs because I’ve completed everything else. I have 29 energy refills in the overflow, I’m now auto farming event quest for units. Do you know how lame that is?

And my whole alliance is the same.

This player base is stinky man. Same default replies everytime 🤣

willrun4adonut

I actually want to complete everything.
Even old stuff like those back issues

I’m not great at the game but do want to get to it eventually.

I honestly don’t get the folk that rush through stuff and then complain about not having anything to do.

Play the pvp stuff like battlegrounds then.
Rest of people are just playing for fun.
You’re not the majority.
The hell you on about? Who is rushing? There’s nothing to do!! I i only play Bags because I’ve completed everything else.

And my whole alliance is the same.

This player base is stinky man. Same default replies everytime 🤣

Your original post makes it sound like you have GM gauntlet, Carina, 's, etc, left to do and you don't want to do them do them as the rewards are not worth it. I believe that's what he was referring to, that he will be doing the stuff even if the rewards aren't great, and that there is still stuff to do.

GrabmeMCOC

I actually want to complete everything.
Even old stuff like those back issues

I’m not great at the game but do want to get to it eventually.

I honestly don’t get the folk that rush through stuff and then complain about not having anything to do.

Play the pvp stuff like battlegrounds then.
Rest of people are just playing for fun.
You’re not the majority.
The hell you on about? Who is rushing? There’s nothing to do!! I i only play Bags because I’ve completed everything else.

And my whole alliance is the same.

This player base is stinky man. Same default replies everytime 🤣
Your original post makes it sound like you have GM gauntlet, Carina, 's, etc, left to do and you don't want to do them do them ad the rewards are not being worth it. I believe that's what he was referring to, that he will be doing the stuff even if the rewards aren't great, and that there is still stuff to do.

Yeah I get that and I’m genuinely happy for people that get pleasure out of putting in hours to complete content that doesn’t reward them with anything. I won’t do that.

You’re also right. I have a few old bits content not completed, but I am not running Abyss multiple times for zero rewards. I’m not completing EoP multiple times for zero rewards. I am not exploring Act 6 for zero rewards. I am not exploring LoL for zero rewards. I have never completed a single variant because of zero rewards.

All other content is cleared 100%. You know why? Because there was incentive. There was a relevant reward.

P4L

It’s clear now that most older content is borderline pointless in completing. This goes for brand new accounts or older accounts that never ‘got around’ to completing.

Example - Grandmasters Gauntlet. Rewards are simply not worth the grind. However, many of us have never completed.

Simple idea is an exclusive reward being added to the exploration of said content with the rewards being gated by progression. i.e New 2025 exploration of GG will grant you X champion. Would be a good way to introduce more 7* champs instead of the boring drip feed we’re currently getting.

This would be relevant to all special Quests currently without 7* exclusives (not Necro thank f***). Carina Volumes that are out of date. Back issues. And maybe even old Act exploration.

Kabam please give us something new to grind for using existing content. Otherwise 90% of your game is dead.

You’re definitely right about the older challenges having outdated rewards. Just not worth the time and resources atm

shield311

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.

I'm actualy doing those challenges rn, 2 done so far saving revives for mojo one next and I'd pick starky and s99, ik they need dupes and what not but I'll just wait for ag from future content and hopefully get tech and science easy, love both spideys, hopefully stealthy is a 7 star soon.

Buttehrs

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Are you deliberately picking holes in a suggestion for likes? Clearly I said special quests without 7* Exclusives. That obviously implies Carinas.

The only holes in a suggestion are yours. They've done exactly what you want already. Where else can you get a full t7b atm? By going back into old content.

Rayven5220

If you want to see 100% on everything, that's the only reason to do old content with outdated rewards.
Its old content, why would they add new rewards to get players to do old content, when they can just make new relevant content?
If you want the 100%, do the content.
If you don't want the 100%, don't do it.
It's that simple.

PT_99

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.

Nah I'm saving my science gem for him whenever I pull him from sale crystals or Kebem decides to add him in basic,

Ain't no way I'm doing those ccp carina challenges,
I find them harder and pointless than Necro challenges.

Wicket329

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.
Nah I'm saving my science gem for him whenever I pull him from sale crystals or Kebem decides to add him in basic,

Ain't no way I'm doing those ccp carina challenges,
I find them harder and pointless than Necro challenges.

For what it’s worth, they looked a lot worse than they actually were. I didn’t deliberately potion farm or anything, and I think the most expensive one took me maybe 20 revives?

They definitely require patience and planning. Check out some YouTubers’ runs for more insight, but I think the rewards (exclusive champs) are still super worth it. I love my r3 duped Masacre, and I don’t think we’ve seen him show up as obtainable anywhere else yet.

SirGamesBond

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.

willrun4adonut

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Poor spidey99. Everyone forgets about him as an option.
Ain't no way I'm doing those ccp carina challenges,
I find them harder and pointless than Necro challenges.

Will say I'm a little disappointed in this answer coming from THE Valiant. 😉

GrabmeMCOC

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Are you deliberately picking holes in a suggestion for likes? Clearly I said special quests without 7* Exclusives. That obviously implies Carinas.
The only holes in a suggestion are yours. They've done exactly what you want already. Where else can you get a full t7b atm? By going back into old content.

They’ve barley done it. Can’t believe the player base is happy with mediocrity

GrabmeMCOC

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.

Ok. The gold is nice at best. Every other reward is not only outdated but borderline pointless to long term valiant players. They offer next to nothing. Literally nothing.

I want to play older game content. Like, I enjoy the game. So as a suggestion only they should incentivise it based on progression. Let’s say if your account is over 5m rating. Or you’re Valiant with a specific PI.

All the responses (unlike yours, I appreciate the conversation) are generic. And default to the ‘stop moaning and play the game’.

It’s literally BGs or nothing.

Buttehrs

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Are you deliberately picking holes in a suggestion for likes? Clearly I said special quests without 7* Exclusives. That obviously implies Carinas.
The only holes in a suggestion are yours. They've done exactly what you want already. Where else can you get a full t7b atm? By going back into old content.
They’ve barley done it. Can’t believe the player base is happy with mediocrity

What do you mean barely? There's 4 or 5 full volumes of carinas that take you back to labyrinth, abyss, necro, eop and gauntlet. The only "endgame" content you don't have to revisit is variants for obvious reasons. Those are already roster restricted to certain tags or champs to get full benefits. Mediocrity is definitely not something that should be uttered in this case. Maybe instead of just coming here to cry, think fully through your thoughts.

ahmynuts

What's with the influx of absolutely stupid posts this last week

Buttehrs

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.
Ok. The gold is nice at best. Every other reward is not only outdated but borderline pointless to long term valiant players. They offer next to nothing. Literally nothing.

I want to play older game content. Like, I enjoy the game. So as a suggestion only they should incentivise it based on progression. Let’s say if your account is over 5m rating. Or you’re Valiant with a specific PI.

All the responses (unlike yours, I appreciate the conversation) are generic. And default to the ‘stop moaning and play the game’.

It’s literally BGs or nothing.

Nothing is stopping you from going back to old content for fun. You do not need more rewards for doing it. That's not how it works.

GrabmeMCOC

What do you think carinas have been for? That's literally how you get a 7* starky or massacre. Or did you forget about those.
Are you deliberately picking holes in a suggestion for likes? Clearly I said special quests without 7* Exclusives. That obviously implies Carinas.
The only holes in a suggestion are yours. They've done exactly what you want already. Where else can you get a full t7b atm? By going back into old content.
They’ve barley done it. Can’t believe the player base is happy with mediocrity
What do you mean barely? There's 4 or 5 full volumes of carinas that take you back to labyrinth, abyss, necro, eop and gauntlet. The only "endgame" content you don't have to revisit is variants for obvious reasons. Those are already roster restricted to certain tags or champs to get full benefits. Mediocrity is definitely not something that should be uttered in this case. Maybe instead of just coming here to cry, think fully through your thoughts.

Oh my god you’re simple. I stated that it should be revised for 2025 as 90% of the game content is no longer relevant.

GrabmeMCOC

What's with the influx of absolutely stupid posts this last week

Don’t know. You regular posters are slacking. As I said you’re all happy with a mediocre product.

GrabmeMCOC

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.
Ok. The gold is nice at best. Every other reward is not only outdated but borderline pointless to long term valiant players. They offer next to nothing. Literally nothing.

I want to play older game content. Like, I enjoy the game. So as a suggestion only they should incentivise it based on progression. Let’s say if your account is over 5m rating. Or you’re Valiant with a specific PI.

All the responses (unlike yours, I appreciate the conversation) are generic. And default to the ‘stop moaning and play the game’.

It’s literally BGs or nothing.
Nothing is stopping you from going back to old content for fun. You do not need more rewards for doing it. That's not how it works.

Laughable.

Buttehrs

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.
Ok. The gold is nice at best. Every other reward is not only outdated but borderline pointless to long term valiant players. They offer next to nothing. Literally nothing.

I want to play older game content. Like, I enjoy the game. So as a suggestion only they should incentivise it based on progression. Let’s say if your account is over 5m rating. Or you’re Valiant with a specific PI.

All the responses (unlike yours, I appreciate the conversation) are generic. And default to the ‘stop moaning and play the game’.

It’s literally BGs or nothing.
Nothing is stopping you from going back to old content for fun. You do not need more rewards for doing it. That's not how it works.
Laughable.

The only thing laughable here is you. You very clearly just want extra rewards for doing nothing.

SirGamesBond

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.
Ok. The gold is nice at best. Every other reward is not only outdated but borderline pointless to long term valiant players. They offer next to nothing. Literally nothing.

I want to play older game content. Like, I enjoy the game. So as a suggestion only they should incentivise it based on progression. Let’s say if your account is over 5m rating. Or you’re Valiant with a specific PI.

All the responses (unlike yours, I appreciate the conversation) are generic. And default to the ‘stop moaning and play the game’.

It’s literally BGs or nothing.

My main is 7.5M. The only difference is I have 100% game. Nothing left to do. I even 100% the easy crucible recently, it was the only quest without 100% on the banner.
I don't care about the r4s we will be getting next month. But I'm enjoying playing in my alt.
It's like a massive buffet in front of me, and I can pick and chose what hard content I want to do.

SirGamesBond

Sooo, Epic of Pain is coming next month...
That will rizz your mood up Mr Endgamer

Buttehrs

Sooo, Epic of Pain is coming next month...
That will rizz your mood up Mr Endgamer

Then he'll complain that he should get more for doing it again later only updated with late 2025 or 2026 rewards 😑

GrabmeMCOC

I recently did a run in grandmaster gauntlet in my alt account. First run. Its 4M rated atm with 14 r3s. And 20 r2s.

Top tier gold is there.
The 6* materials are welcome.
Shards are Basically dupes for iso and more shards.
Costed me 2 revives.
It's almost free stuff at this point.
I had 5 keys so used 1.
I'm waiting for 7* og iron man and the dupe on 7* antman. Im already prepared for the avengers run with r4 sig 200 thor, r4 sig 200 bw. 7* antman, 7* Hawkeye.
I'm also prepared for the Zemid run with R4a
This account does not have the 3*, so I'll do the avengers first for the 2*. And go in without the 3*.

I ran variants quests casually like a path in EQ. They are much much much easier.
The gold is there and more importantly the Units are there.

I have plans to run EOP too. I did some planning. The triple juggs run and spider run are basically the best to cover both right and left sides respectively. Doing the two carinas is more like a side hustle.

I ain't touching abyss or labyrinth carinas.

I'll explore act 5 and 6 slowly slowly, one quest a month, for Units. They are so damn easy.

Not gonna complain on things for the sake of complaining. Not speed running content for the sake of doing it. Will do it with planning and with lowest resource investment including time.

Idk what situation are you in OP so this is not directed towards you. But I'm throwing shade on all those who complain about resources like gold and iso. It's right there..... So No Offence.
Ok. The gold is nice at best. Every other reward is not only outdated but borderline pointless to long term valiant players. They offer next to nothing. Literally nothing.

I want to play older game content. Like, I enjoy the game. So as a suggestion only they should incentivise it based on progression. Let’s say if your account is over 5m rating. Or you’re Valiant with a specific PI.

All the responses (unlike yours, I appreciate the conversation) are generic. And default to the ‘stop moaning and play the game’.

It’s literally BGs or nothing.
Nothing is stopping you from going back to old content for fun. You do not need more rewards for doing it. That's not how it works.
Laughable.
The only thing laughable here is you. You very clearly just want extra rewards for doing nothing.

You have a real problem with comprehension if you think I want rewards for little effort.