Deep Dive : Falcon ( Joaquin Torres )

Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 742 ★★★
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he seems better attacker than zola

but with stacked science class we have to see if he finds a place in the contest

also needs little bit of time to get fully ramped

https://youtu.be/OjYvG7H2bI0?si=8Sdo08yIbwPOVbuG
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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    Looks simple yet effective
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,155 ★★★★★
    We got science nimrod before GTA 6 🗣️🗣️🗣️
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 864 ★★★
    edited February 2
    It’s literally just Deathless She Hulk with a bit more utility and more ramp up.

    I’d take Deathless She Hulk any day over Falcon, but let’s see man…
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,155 ★★★★★
    The easy access to slow and debilitate really helps. Good for certain mystic defenders like enchantress and rintrah.
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 6,033 ★★★★★
    Have not watched the vid, but apparently he is a dr doom counter, maybe we r getting 7 star doom?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    Where is his page?

  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    Harryatomix said:

    Man those numbers are disappointing, silk hits like 3 times harder than him.

    At least it’s pretty consistent, plus as long as they aren’t purifying debuffs, no one’s immune to it
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    Have not watched the vid, but apparently he is a dr doom counter, maybe we r getting 7 star doom?

    We saw 7* CGR in the arcade deep dive video, but we didn’t get a 7* CGR
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    edited February 2
    Actually Falcon looks like a good Serpent counter, bulwark, block regeneration, special attack reduction, consistent burst damage output, etc
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    Official page is here
    https://playcontestofchampions.com/news/champion-spotlight-falcon-joaquin-torres/
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 6,033 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    JLordVileJ said:

    Have not watched the vid, but apparently he is a dr doom counter, maybe we r getting 7 star doom?

    We saw 7* CGR in the arcade deep dive video, but we didn’t get a 7* CGR
    That...that wasn't the point lol
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 777 ★★★★
    He’s clearly got a lot of utility, including reliable slow, no buffs, and safety against special attacks. The damage seems sorta low though, and I have low standards in the first place. Not sure how he’ll turn out, but I’m a bit worried the utility won’t be worth the upkeep of managing his instincts and pause timers if the damage can’t keep up. I also find it a bit concerning that he’s clearly supposed to be an Enchantress counter but he doesn’t counter miss, which is a shame when I find so often that what loses me games against her is the untouchable. I’ll reserve further judgement but he doesn’t interest me too much atm.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    JLordVileJ said:

    Have not watched the vid, but apparently he is a dr doom counter, maybe we r getting 7 star doom?

    We saw 7* CGR in the arcade deep dive video, but we didn’t get a 7* CGR
    That...that wasn't the point lol
    The people testing the new champs usually have access to all champs as 7*s
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    Ashacekar said:

    I want Falcon in all colors. I have the red and blue, green would be good to get. Want to more color options to complete the team. I request a yellow and purple.

    A mystic, cosmic and mutant Falcon
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 864 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Actually Falcon looks like a good Serpent counter, bulwark, block regeneration, special attack reduction, consistent burst damage output, etc

    In war I do agree, but Battlegrounds and fast paced matches that ramp is probably too slow, especially with his death immortality as well.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    https://youtu.be/DQnDDZUoSC0?si=IDkIYh5aeoYHNbvN

    DLL spotlight video is here
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    dr2ws said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Actually Falcon looks like a good Serpent counter, bulwark, block regeneration, special attack reduction, consistent burst damage output, etc

    In war I do agree, but Battlegrounds and fast paced matches that ramp is probably too slow, especially with his death immortality as well.
    That is one thing I am a bit concerned about, the short fight ramp
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,133 ★★★★
    dr2ws said:

    It’s literally just Deathless She Hulk with a bit more utility and more ramp up.

    I’d take Deathless She Hulk any day over Falcon, but let’s see man…

    Except you know, he has slow, regen, dex immunity, higher block proficiency, is a more reliable enchantress counter and is actually usable in Battlegrounds. So they're not the same at all
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,133 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Actually Falcon looks like a good Serpent counter, bulwark, block regeneration, special attack reduction, consistent burst damage output, etc

    You can't keep saying this lmao
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 11,155 ★★★★★
    Science class is too OP and it set an unrealistic standard for new science champs. A skill/tech champ with similar utility and damage will get celebrated lol.
  • sxlbstverliebtsxlbstverliebt Member Posts: 17 ★
    I had to double check if I was watching a 7* r3 with class advantage during the champion rotation section. 9k burst damage with max trauma at the end of the sp1 after what appears to be a full sp2-sp1 rotation has to be a joke.
  • kvirrkvirr Member Posts: 1,423 ★★★★
    sxlbstverliebt said:

    I had to double check if I was watching a 7* r3 with class advantage during the champion rotation section. 9k burst damage with max trauma at the end of the sp1 after what appears to be a full sp2-sp1 rotation has to be a joke.

    well tbf what’s the avg medium crit ? Like 15-17k? Atleast that’s what my Chavez does.


    so this falcon hits a bit less, assuming 9k burst and 2-3k lights, that’s about 13 roughly depending on attack itself. Yet instead of hitting hard like other champs he exchanges that for pretty useful effects, so honestly not a bad trade off. He seems good but will 100% get a nice rebalance later making him better
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 3,066 ★★★★★
    Okay, no one's mentioning this so I'll mention it - HE'S A FREAKING VAMPIRE!?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,276 ★★★★★
    edited February 2
    Ercarret said:

    Okay, no one's mentioning this so I'll mention it - HE'S A FREAKING VAMPIRE!?

    I’m surprised no Blade synergy
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,587 ★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Science class is too OP and it set an unrealistic standard for new science champs. A skill/tech champ with similar utility and damage will get celebrated lol.

    I dunno, I was reading the champion spotlight and was mistakenly thinking he was a Skill champion (the Instincts portion made me think of Hit Monkey) and was not impressed by what I was reading. Slow seems to be given out like candy, so aside from that it just seems like damage + damage mitigation.
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,587 ★★★★
    And, locking Trauma behind Slow (except for using the SP2) is a big limiting factor, essentially eliminating an entire class of champions he can take.
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