What’s the ideal sig level for Prowler?

BlackTuran

Or at least when does it start to make a real difference? I have 58 tech sig stones and 100 generic sig stones. My prowler is sig 20 at the moment. What sig level should I take him up to?

BeastDad

200

jj_jj_9

200

BlackTuran

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

EdisonLaw

BlackTuran said:

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

Guardian

captain_rogers

200

BeastDad

BlackTuran said:

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

Every sig stone makes guardian and prowler better.

Herbal_Taxman

179

Herbal_Taxman

BlackTuran said:

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

I would diversify rather than go all in on Guardian, who I think is overrated. 50 stones on Prowler will be a big boost.

Darthbane3141

I have a r3 sig 80 Prowler and he's really good. I'm getting him to sig 200 before I put stones in to anybody else.

Magrailothos

Herbal_Taxman said:

BlackTuran said:

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

I would diversify rather than go all in on Guardian, who I think is overrated. 50 stones on Prowler will be a big boost.

No it won't.


Sig 20: +677 Crit Rating when opponent Faltered
Sig 100: +900 Crit Rating
Sig 150: +1572 Crit Rating
Sig 200: +4050 Crit Rating

Realistically, Sig 20 is definitely better than Unawakened. But you'll see very little actual difference in the number of critical hits until you get over Sig 120-ish; and only a big difference once you're over Sig175.

Magrailothos

Okay, a little time on Excel using the Stat calc function from Aut M.ai has helped me generate this (The Y axis shows the actual frequency with which you'll land critical hits, as a percentage):


The above assumes that you have a 7*r3 Prowler, running the Greater Precision Mastery at max; and you use the Crit Rating stat focus.

Jack2634

BlackTuran said:

Or at least when does it start to make a real difference? I have 58 tech sig stones and 100 generic sig stones. My prowler is sig 20 at the moment. What sig level should I take him up to?

Herbal_Taxman

Magrailothos said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

BlackTuran said:

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

I would diversify rather than go all in on Guardian, who I think is overrated. 50 stones on Prowler will be a big boost.

No it won't.


Sig 20: +677 Crit Rating when opponent Faltered
Sig 100: +900 Crit Rating
Sig 150: +1572 Crit Rating
Sig 200: +4050 Crit Rating

Realistically, Sig 20 is definitely better than Unawakened. But you'll see very little actual difference in the number of critical hits until you get over Sig 120-ish; and only a big difference once you're over Sig175.

Good notes for sure. I would still argue banking 50 sigs into Prowler puts you on the road toward 200.

I still don’t track with why people want Guardian at sig 200. Bleed and energy resistance? Are they planning to get hit? Happy to learn more.

Chuck_Finley

My theory - if you like the champ and they need to be max sig, might as well start tossing them on said champ.

Magrailothos

Herbal_Taxman said:

Magrailothos said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

BlackTuran said:

BeastDad said:

200

Ah well in that case I’ll leave it alone and hold on to my sig stones. They’re still quite rare at this point in the game. Not sure who else I’d use the tech stones on though. Maybe Guardian since he’s already sig 80? Or Sentinel who’s sig 70?

I would diversify rather than go all in on Guardian, who I think is overrated. 50 stones on Prowler will be a big boost.

No it won't.


Sig 20: +677 Crit Rating when opponent Faltered
Sig 100: +900 Crit Rating
Sig 150: +1572 Crit Rating
Sig 200: +4050 Crit Rating

Realistically, Sig 20 is definitely better than Unawakened. But you'll see very little actual difference in the number of critical hits until you get over Sig 120-ish; and only a big difference once you're over Sig175.

Good notes for sure. I would still argue banking 50 sigs into Prowler puts you on the road toward 200.

I still don’t track with why people want Guardian at sig 200. Bleed and energy resistance? Are they planning to get hit? Happy to learn more.

Thanks 🙂

With Prowler, if you're definitely going for Sig 200, then sure: invest and build it up. Although if you don't have a good prospective source of 7* Sigs (like outstanding Carina's) then they might sit there not doing anything for you, for a while.

As for Guardian: Guardian's Sig is great for offensive purposes: boosting both his Block Proficiency and Energy Resistance makes an enormous difference when blocking Energy-based Special attacks.

It also means that (with Willpower), he becomes an effective option for a load of nodes that place Energy DoTs or Bleed on you (Hazard Shift, Rain of Fire, Biohazard) - as long as you play a bit slow and don't pick up multiple debuffs, Awakened Guardian can take on a multitude of those DoT-nodes or opponents.

Average_Desi

Magrailothos said:

Okay, a little time on Excel using the Stat calc function from Aut M.ai has helped me generate this (The Y axis shows the actual frequency with which you'll land critical hits, as a percentage):


The above assumes that you have a 7*r3 Prowler, running the Greater Precision Mastery at max; and you use the Crit Rating stat focus.

The curve at 1 is so flat that I thought it dipped before going up