What do you guys think about sentinel(class disadvantage) countering lots of cosmic champs

I understand if they make him armor break immune but they should make an exception where he could be armor broken only by cosmic champions because at the moment in defense he counters so many cosmic champions even though he should be at a disadvantage against them. Especially Medusa and her ability to shut off robots she can't stand a chance against sentinel.

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Glassback

I got it with magneto being able to counter metal champs, but the growing number of champs countering outside of their disadvantage isn’t a good direction personally.

heehee

I got it with magneto being able to counter metal champs, but the growing number of champs countering outside of their disadvantage isn’t a good direction personally.

I know whales won't like this, but I 100% agree.

Cassy

Classdisadvantage / Advantage is ment to lower / Push your attackrating.

Ability Advantage is applyed to some Champions.
This is not necessaryly tied to the class (metall, spiderverse etc.)

The armorbreakimmunity is a RPG part of the champion, not a class thing. and usefull with classreverseal or other restrictions.

captain_rogers

It allows kabam to release cosmic champs which counter armor ups in different ways, like dthanos, and have value with that. It alwys happen in the game.

Friendly001

He needs to still be a decent defender.

winterthur

Can his armor be “nullified” by Mystics?

heehee

Classdisadvantage / Advantage is ment to lower / Push your attackrating.

Ability Advantage is applyed to some Champions.
This is not necessaryly tied to the class (metall, spiderverse etc.)

The armorbreakimmunity is a RPG part of the champion, not a class thing. and usefull with classreverseal or other restrictions.

That doesn't make any sense. For example science champs can counter most of mystic champs so why a Tech champ countering most of cosmic champs? I know its kabam's money grab tactics making overpowered champs so people will be interested in whaling but it's just absurd.

heehee

He needs to still be a decent defender.

Decent defender against other classes yes but against cosmics is a horrible idea

Ragnaruk5178

Kabam’s directions make 0 sense. Nimrod is an upgraded sentinel who CAN be armor broken despite it having no real effect, yet a weaker version is outright immune. If colossus is only immune to armor break against non techs then I don’t know why the same cannot be said for sentinel. Why does sentinel have armor break immunity when ultron, a seriously more technologically advanced robot lacks this? Yes, sentinel can be handled but it is so silly really. I’m not sure if it’s changed or not but it reminds me that in an armor break node on story, the upgraded sentinel still resided there, despite his immunity, hoped that’s changed.

heehee

It allows kabam to release cosmic champs which counter armor ups in different ways, like dthanos, and have value with that. It alwys happen in the game.

So you have to rely on RNG to draft deathless thanos or hope they don't ban deathless thanos? That doesn't make any sense lol. Sentinel counters most cosmics.

heehee

Kabam’s directions make 0 sense. Nimrod is an upgraded sentinel who CAN be armor broken despite it having no real effect, yet a weaker version is outright immune. If colossus is only immune to armor break against non techs then I don’t know why the same cannot be said for sentinel. Why does sentinel have armor break immunity when ultron, a seriously more technologically advanced robot lacks this? Yes, sentinel can be handled but it is so silly really. I’m not sure if it’s changed or not but it reminds me that in an armor break node on story, the upgraded sentinel still resided there, despite his immunity, hoped that’s changed.

Finally someone thinking logically with good points

Friendly001

He needs to still be a decent defender.
Decent defender against other classes yes but against cosmics is a horrible idea

The only reason he is a decent defender is because he stops cosmics such as cgr and Medusa.

JESUSCHRIST

Kabam just recently buff Sentinel to sell him, Kabam won't nerf Sentinel, there will be uproar from spenders in the game

IAmGrO_ot78

Players are crying about buffing old champs, and when they finally do - players are crying about the buff being to buffy…Its impossible to make everyone happy.

Glassback

Kabam just recently buff Sentinel to sell him, Kabam won't nerf Sentinel, there will be uproar from spenders in the game

There’ll be a new mechanic for cosmic champs to counter armor break immune champs eventually, like how we now have grit buffs to counter unstoppable instead of slow debuffs.

Jack2634

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.

captain_rogers

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.

He is not immune to armor shattered.

heehee

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.
He is not immune to armor shattered.

He is

Average_Desi

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.
He is not immune to armor shattered.
He is

altavista

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.
He is not immune to armor shattered.
He is

Read the first sentence of his abilities

Average_Desi

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.
He is not immune to armor shattered.
He is
Read the first sentence of his abilities

Wdym, the image clearly says " Armour Shattered Immune"

TotemCorruption

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.
He is not immune to armor shattered.
He is
Read the first sentence of his abilities
Wdym, the image clearly says " Armour Shattered Immune"

He is not immune to armor shattered; when it says armor shattered and immune on the screen those are two different things;
the stuff you're immune to doesn't show up in red.

anyway, the only issue with Medusa is that she has to use SP3 to armor shatter since the armor breaks won't land to get the SP1 armor shatter online.
Also, OP, if you don't know that Sentinel can be armor shattered by Medusa and also armor pulverized by BRB, why even make this thread?

altavista

It is unreal how tanky he is. Also, being immune to armor break and armor shattered really shouldn't be applied to the cosmic class.
He is not immune to armor shattered.
He is
Read the first sentence of his abilities
Wdym, the image clearly says " Armour Shattered Immune"

Sentinel’s list of immunities includes break but not shattered.

Whenever Medusa’s armor shatter applies, she inflicts the Shattered debuff and the Break debuff.

So in the pictures you can see that the shattered debuff is applied, but the armor break is not (hence the immune callout).

As an example, Okoye against a bleed immune would apply shock but not bleed, and the word callouts would be ‘Shock’ on one line and ‘Immune’ on the second line. It is not the phrase ‘Shock immune’.

Toyota_2015

This reminds me a lot of when Galan released and he was Nullify/Stagger/Fate Seal immune. Champions that upset the class balance aren’t necessarily a new concept. I’m not saying it’s a good idea, but we have seen this before.

Shock29

Can his armor be “nullified” by Mystics?

Technically, yes, but it grants Sentinel a bunch of power for each one Nullified. The best way to deal with these Armor Ups currently is Pulverize, as it prevents the Power Gain from triggering when removing the Armor Up Buffs.

SandeepS

Magneto...
...he counters lots of class disadvantage metal techs. Not tried but hopefully he counters this guy and all will be good.

TotemCorruption

Can his armor be “nullified” by Mystics?
Technically, yes, but it grants Sentinel a bunch of power for each one Nullified. The best way to deal with these Armor Ups currently is Pulverize, as it prevents the Power Gain from triggering when removing the Armor Up Buffs.

Hey, you read his kit, that's cheating. The purpose of this thread is to just randomly say wrong stuff but say it with authority...

Joker1976

It’s kinda dumb tbh.
Sentinel buff should have countered ALL mutant champs very effectively.
“Sentinels are designed to hunt mutants”,..however they are susceptible to attacks on machinery/ robotics “
The buffs a bit too far off base from the marvel narrative,…and from my understanding this still is a representation of a marvel game,…correct?

Average_Desi

You can use CMM to pulverize the armour. Or use Medusa and heavy spam after an sp3

smdam38

I wasn’t a huge fan of Days of Future Past movie but the Sentinels were awesome in that beginning sequence of the movie.