Champions getting blocked mid special

BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
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So Spiral is fixed but somehow the team broke others? I’ve been getting blocked during Titania’s sp1 and now Okoye’s SP2.

Is there a running list of champions that are dealing with this? And has there been a statement as so why the AI is able to do this now?

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  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    Titania has been whiffing the 2nd hit for a while, haven't seen anyone report it though. I guess we are at that point of just not caring enough thinking what is the point.

    Yeah… that’s where I’ve been. Figured if I’m gonna bother on this platform might as well ask.

    At this point 🙄 on it being addressed
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,013 ★★★★★
    Let me be clear Titania misses or whiffs a 2nd hit but somehow she is able to continue the attack, not like Spiral where it was able to block the rest of it. Also people rarely use her Sps other than sp3 and heavy spam I guess.
  • BosleyBosley Member Posts: 428 ★★★
    Defender reaction speed for the win I believe. Another one of many knock on effects from ramping this up.

    The answer to both those questions is No from KABAM unfortunately.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    Let me be clear Titania misses or whiffs a 2nd hit but somehow she is able to continue the attack, not like Spiral where it was able to block the rest of it. Also people rarely use her Sps other than sp3 and heavy spam I guess.

    Oh I’ve had AI block the rest of the sp1, it mechanically feels very similar to the spiral issue. Where a hit knocks the defender back a step and instead of being in a “dazed” state they are allowed to move freely and often end up being able to block the remainder of the special.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 1,228 ★★★★
    Happened to me when using Lady D chaining sp2
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,538 ★★★★★
    edited February 27
    BringPopcorn said:

    Titania has been whiffing the 2nd hit for a while, haven't seen anyone report it though. I guess we are at that point of just not caring enough thinking what is the point.

    Well even if you point it out, someone from here will say either to stop playing Titania or stop using her particular special 😀
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    Titania has been whiffing the 2nd hit for a while, haven't seen anyone report it though. I guess we are at that point of just not caring enough thinking what is the point.

    Well even if you point it out, someone from here will say either to stop playing Titania or stop using her particular special 😀
    So she’s down to sp2 spam only per these geniuses… mean whine the 2nd hit of her heavy tendons broken for months on months now too.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 862 ★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    Titania has been whiffing the 2nd hit for a while, haven't seen anyone report it though. I guess we are at that point of just not caring enough thinking what is the point.

    I reported it but there was no response even after tagging

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/389724/titania-whiffs-2nd-attack-of-sp1#latest
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,013 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    Titania has been whiffing the 2nd hit for a while, haven't seen anyone report it though. I guess we are at that point of just not caring enough thinking what is the point.

    I reported it but there was no response even after tagging

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/389724/titania-whiffs-2nd-attack-of-sp1#latest
    Oh well, One more stripe on the tiger..
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    I just tested right now.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLM it whiffs the 2nd hit but she keeps going.
    On a Special Intercept it makes contact on all hits.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLL all hits make contact.
    So its a spacing or hitbox issue?

    I got curious and decided to test this after reading the Rintrah root issue Zola posted.
    If its a spacing issue this could explain A LOT of problems in the game

    Spacing and idle timers not working appropriately is my guess because the AI should stay idle during the full special even if a hit gets whiffed should the first one connect. But agree… just another layer of neglect
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,013 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    I just tested right now.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLM it whiffs the 2nd hit but she keeps going.
    On a Special Intercept it makes contact on all hits.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLL all hits make contact.
    So its a spacing or hitbox issue?

    I got curious and decided to test this after reading the Rintrah root issue Zola posted.
    If its a spacing issue this could explain A LOT of problems in the game

    Spacing and idle timers not working appropriately is my guess because the AI should stay idle during the full special even if a hit gets whiffed should the first one connect. But agree… just another layer of neglect
    Yeah but I wanna keep this as simple so they can fix it like they did with Spiral. Don't want tinfoil hat wearing people to come and say "I knew it, Kabam increased the pushback from 2nd M to make the AI harder"
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    I just tested right now.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLM it whiffs the 2nd hit but she keeps going.
    On a Special Intercept it makes contact on all hits.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLL all hits make contact.
    So its a spacing or hitbox issue?

    I got curious and decided to test this after reading the Rintrah root issue Zola posted.
    If its a spacing issue this could explain A LOT of problems in the game

    Spacing and idle timers not working appropriately is my guess because the AI should stay idle during the full special even if a hit gets whiffed should the first one connect. But agree… just another layer of neglect
    Yeah but I wanna keep this as simple so they can fix it like they did with Spiral. Don't want tinfoil hat wearing people to come and say "I knew it, Kabam increased the pushback from 2nd M to make the AI harder"
    Fair point. My only concern with the champion by champion approach to these things is clearly these problems are caused by a generic cross champion element of the game being tweaked for whatever reason and then we get stuck with persuasive cross champion unintended consequences that live on for months and sometimes even years rather than fixes that address the root item that created a large scald problem
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,013 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    I just tested right now.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLM it whiffs the 2nd hit but she keeps going.
    On a Special Intercept it makes contact on all hits.
    On a 5 hit combo MLLLL all hits make contact.
    So its a spacing or hitbox issue?

    I got curious and decided to test this after reading the Rintrah root issue Zola posted.
    If its a spacing issue this could explain A LOT of problems in the game

    Spacing and idle timers not working appropriately is my guess because the AI should stay idle during the full special even if a hit gets whiffed should the first one connect. But agree… just another layer of neglect
    Yeah but I wanna keep this as simple so they can fix it like they did with Spiral. Don't want tinfoil hat wearing people to come and say "I knew it, Kabam increased the pushback from 2nd M to make the AI harder"
    Fair point. My only concern with the champion by champion approach to these things is clearly these problems are caused by a generic cross champion element of the game being tweaked for whatever reason and then we get stuck with persuasive cross champion unintended consequences that live on for months and sometimes even years rather than fixes that address the root item that created a large scald problem
    Like Jugs doing Hulk things 🤣 Yeah I get it
  • Jcarlos_2902Jcarlos_2902 Member Posts: 45 ★
    Dust is another champion that opponent will block her specials while sandstorm is active. I can't use her sp2 because my opponent will always block her hits unless I throw special after I use a striker.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    For Okoye, it’s happened a couple times now. Not much more to say unfortunately as it’s not as consistent as Titania.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 7,013 ★★★★★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Hey friends, the team is aware of the Titania Special whiffing issue and are actively investigating -

    For the other Champions mentioned in this thread, are the occurrences consistent?

    Thank you.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,371 ★★★★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Hey friends, the team is aware of the Titania Special whiffing issue and are actively investigating -

    For the other Champions mentioned in this thread, are the occurrences consistent?

    Maybe. Not sure. But Archangel is bugged consistently. His ability accuracy is being reduced.Please do tell if the team has a plan for it.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 3,616 ★★★★★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Hey friends, the team is aware of the Titania Special whiffing issue and are actively investigating -

    For the other Champions mentioned in this thread, are the occurrences consistent?

    Quite a few champs have been randomly dashing forward and using mediums when not directed to. This happens a lot when fighting Onslaught, usually after he throws his special 1. This sets them up to be immediately light intercepted. Is this supposed to happen? I didn't see it in his abilities.

  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,756 ★★★★★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Hey friends, the team is aware of the Titania Special whiffing issue and are actively investigating -

    For the other Champions mentioned in this thread, are the occurrences consistent?

    Rex - do you think the team could look into the 2nd hit of her heavy too? Especially when unstoppable if the first hit whiffs intentionally the 2nd hit will also whiff even when making contact with a defender.
  • Jcarlos_2902Jcarlos_2902 Member Posts: 45 ★
    Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

    Hey friends, the team is aware of the Titania Special whiffing issue and are actively investigating -

    For the other Champions mentioned in this thread, are the occurrences consistent?

    Yes, please fix Dust. It's sucks I can't use her properly as attacker because my opponent will block her hits from sp2.
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