A drought of low tier items for Valiants

So I am one of those odd ones that want to rank all of my lower level champions, 2 star, 3 star and 4 star, to their max level. The 2* champions, pretty easy, the 3* champions, a lot longer but still straightforward. However, as a Valiant player now looking for t4b and other smaller cats to work on maxing 4 stars (not to mention the insane lack of tier 1 primordial dust) it is so hard to obtain these. Sure there is some for glory and bg tokens but thats max 40 t4b per week (5 max 4* champs) which would therefore take me over a year of ranking every week to get the 4* champions ranked. It just seems crazy to me that I'm getting new r3 7*s regularly but there isn't a place to really max out our lower rank champs without an insane grind. Anyone else annoyed by this or just me?

Comments

SirGamesBond

So you are saying you want to upgrade 4* and you cant do it fast enough? Where were you all these years.
You just compared 4* rankups to 7*r3.
How many 7r3 you got? 200?

Let the things run its course. The resources are there. Dont get annoyed by. That's how games works. It takes years and years to upgrade 3* and 4*s. I constantly upgrade 4*, but I have left the 3* in the bin. T2b catalysts suks.

GrabmeMCOC

Seems to be a drought of everything. No content. No plan. No fun.

Just voting for things nobody wants.

Herbal_Taxman

Daily quests are your friend if you have 2-4*s as your priority.

Volatility

Fully agree! I’d love some way to get T1 ascension dust without having to pay

Toproller89

Fully agree! I’d love some way to get T1 ascension dust without having to pay

Don't we all

MrSanguini

So you are saying you want to upgrade 4* and you cant do it fast enough? Where were you all these years.
You just compared 4* rankups to 7*r3.
How many 7r3 you got? 200?

Let the things run its course. The resources are there. Dont get annoyed by. That's how games works. It takes years and years to upgrade 3* and 4*s. I constantly upgrade 4*, but I have left the 3* in the bin. T2b catalysts suks.

I can unironically Rank 10 7 stars to R3 before getting the ascension dust to ascend ONE four star. Does that seem normal to you? T1 dust should be far more accessible than it is now

the_eradicator

So you are saying you want to upgrade 4* and you cant do it fast enough? Where were you all these years.
You just compared 4* rankups to 7*r3.
How many 7r3 you got? 200?

Let the things run its course. The resources are there. Dont get annoyed by. That's how games works. It takes years and years to upgrade 3* and 4*s. I constantly upgrade 4*, but I have left the 3* in the bin. T2b catalysts suks.

Did not understand the problem and started blasting the OP.
Just cos you took years and years to rankup 4 star or 3 stars does not mean it should be like that now.
The lower tier availability is surely a problem.
Also no 5* and below ascension dust at all.

SirGamesBond

So you are saying you want to upgrade 4* and you cant do it fast enough? Where were you all these years.
You just compared 4* rankups to 7*r3.
How many 7r3 you got? 200?

Let the things run its course. The resources are there. Dont get annoyed by. That's how games works. It takes years and years to upgrade 3* and 4*s. I constantly upgrade 4*, but I have left the 3* in the bin. T2b catalysts suks.
I can unironically Rank 10 7 stars to R3 before getting the ascension dust to ascend ONE four star. Does that seem normal to you? T1 dust should be far more accessible than it is now

OP is not crying over t1 dust. Their problem is with t4 basic cats.

SirGamesBond

So you are saying you want to upgrade 4* and you cant do it fast enough? Where were you all these years.
You just compared 4* rankups to 7*r3.
How many 7r3 you got? 200?

Let the things run its course. The resources are there. Dont get annoyed by. That's how games works. It takes years and years to upgrade 3* and 4*s. I constantly upgrade 4*, but I have left the 3* in the bin. T2b catalysts suks.
Did not understand the problem and started blasting the OP.
Just cos you took years and years to rankup 4 star or 3 stars does not mean it should be like that now.
The lower tier availability is surely a problem.
Also no 5* and below ascension dust at all.

Do you actually know how building an account works. Yes I worked for those, a whole damn 8 years, upgrading every 2*, left 3* at 80, and 4*. I also upgrade a lot of 5* to r3 and 6* to r3. It is not just me, it's also those players who have been doing 4* arenas and 3* arenas for a long time.

So people decided to upgrade 4* on whim today (I'm sure it's not op who is lacking behind in the race of upgrading 4*s by that much) and somehow magically today a casual player can overtake the years of work? Look at what op is saying. They want more t4b.
T1 dust debate and a thread by @Toproller89 is going for some time.

Are you mad at kabam or something?
Why do you think the Ascensions were introduced? If ascensions were meant for 2 and 3*s, the game would alredy had it.

the_eradicator

I also played for freaking 10 years does not mean ranking up lower tier champs as a valient should be so hard right now.
The game is in a different spot now, things have changed. Not blaming kabam or anything but they can increase the amount of lower tier items or slash prices massively to let people rankup lower tier champs for fun.
Its just you thinking you had it hard so it should be hard for others as well..I think its not right to think like that.

SirGamesBond

Sure, but 'No one' should be given excess to infinite resources to upgrade their accounts on a whim.
See OP said 5 max 4*s a week. Nobody's hands are tied. 5 is a decent number. We are talking 130 4* in 6 months.
And I didn't mention it was hard. It just took time and efforts to keep up with the game.

BuggyDClown

Wow people want everything free at this point 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

To OP, you will get same amount what other low progressed accounts get. Just because you are valiant doesn't make you entitled for more resources for 4&5 stars. And if you specially want those resources than do the low tier content sacrificing high tier reward.
Buffing low tier resources should be done to ease out early-mid tier accounts not for the high end Paragons and valiants.

Then you would have audacity to complain why Kabam group valiants with other tiers during certain events and deals

TheUglyone123

Wow people want everything free at this point 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

To OP, you will get same amount what other low progressed accounts get. Just because you are valiant doesn't make you entitled for more resources for 4&5 stars. And if you specially want those resources than do the low tier content sacrificing high tier reward.
Buffing low tier resources should be done to ease out early-mid tier accounts not for the high end Paragons and valiants.

Then you would have audacity to complain why Kabam group valiants with other tiers during certain events and deals

I think your last sentence is huge here. Why are we asking for lower tier items when we can’t even get proper valiant rewards? I’d much rather have decreased costs and more accessibility for seven star materials than 4 and 5 star stuff. There’s four and five star rewards in the lower levels of EQ, go do that if you are desperate to rank up lower tier champs.

BuggyDClown

Wow people want everything free at this point 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

To OP, you will get same amount what other low progressed accounts get. Just because you are valiant doesn't make you entitled for more resources for 4&5 stars. And if you specially want those resources than do the low tier content sacrificing high tier reward.
Buffing low tier resources should be done to ease out early-mid tier accounts not for the high end Paragons and valiants.

Then you would have audacity to complain why Kabam group valiants with other tiers during certain events and deals
I think your last sentence is huge here. Why are we asking for lower tier items when we can’t even get proper valiant rewards? I’d much rather have decreased costs and more accessibility for seven star materials than 4 and 5 star stuff. There’s four and five star rewards in the lower levels of EQ, go do that if you are desperate to rank up lower tier champs.

Exactly. That's why we don't have good things for Valiants most of the time.Some Valiant players are getting entitled that want everything on thier plate without working for it. We are not getting proper resource and rewards as valiant outside of end game contents. Focus should have been for more resources and events for Valiants but some people are progressing backwards. Op and other Cull obsidian PFP guy just advocated to have more low tier available to valiants 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.

So the lower tier resources which are meant to rank up 2-5 stars are mostly needed by early to low mid accounts to progress. Those are catered towards such people and the amount is justified according to those accounts. I'm amazed how delusional these 2 guys became to demand to increase it for Valiants rather to Cav and below. Then they talk about how other players shouldn't suffer lol. I would have agreed if some cavalier or below progressed account have demanded that. Best part is that those resources are good in number in low tier events and deals which obviously made in way for the right accounts.

Sure if high account want to upgrade a 4 star or 5 star then do the content where you can get it and same amount what other appropriate targeted progression/title holders are getting.

the_eradicator

Wow people want everything free at this point 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

To OP, you will get same amount what other low progressed accounts get. Just because you are valiant doesn't make you entitled for more resources for 4&5 stars. And if you specially want those resources than do the low tier content sacrificing high tier reward.
Buffing low tier resources should be done to ease out early-mid tier accounts not for the high end Paragons and valiants.

Then you would have audacity to complain why Kabam group valiants with other tiers during certain events and deals

Who is saying give those items for free ?
Kabam has a great way to introduce some fun content here which can give rank up gems for 5*s and 4*s etc.
You can also add these rank up gems for an appropriate amount of glory or artifacts or something.
This will be a great way for easing up on the difficult content thats been coming out lately and people kept saying they want something a bit chill and fun.
Variant, special quests but Kabam is not doing anything...its got really boring and its all serious and no fun and games now.

houndogακι

I play 7-8 years and still not max all my 4*
In total of 280 4* 180 are nax 1 r4 and 99 r3
You can take some resourches from arena and from monthly event also.
The point is

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dv99999

So I am one of those odd ones that want to rank all of my lower level champions, 2 star, 3 star and 4 star, to their max level. The 2* champions, pretty easy, the 3* champions, a lot longer but still straightforward. However, as a Valiant player now looking for t4b and other smaller cats to work on maxing 4 stars (not to mention the insane lack of tier 1 primordial dust) it is so hard to obtain these. Sure there is some for glory and bg tokens but thats max 40 t4b per week (5 max 4* champs) which would therefore take me over a year of ranking every week to get the 4* champions ranked. It just seems crazy to me that I'm getting new r3 7*s regularly but there isn't a place to really max out our lower rank champs without an insane grind. Anyone else annoyed by this or just me?

hard to read !!! why dont break your paragraphs or lines ?

BringPopcorn

Droughts are a myth, there is no gold drought, iso drought, catalyst drought

Klipp

Really wish there was a better way to get t1a. I don’t want to spend units on them but I can only get enough for 4 rank ups a week. Wish there was a t1a run like the basic and cc catalyst have.

BuggyDClown

Wow people want everything free at this point 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

To OP, you will get same amount what other low progressed accounts get. Just because you are valiant doesn't make you entitled for more resources for 4&5 stars. And if you specially want those resources than do the low tier content sacrificing high tier reward.
Buffing low tier resources should be done to ease out early-mid tier accounts not for the high end Paragons and valiants.

Then you would have audacity to complain why Kabam group valiants with other tiers during certain events and deals
Who is saying give those items for free ?
Kabam has a great way to introduce some fun content here which can give rank up gems for 5*s and 4*s etc.
You can also add these rank up gems for an appropriate amount of glory or artifacts or something.
This will be a great way for easing up on the difficult content thats been coming out lately and people kept saying they want something a bit chill and fun.
Variant, special quests but Kabam is not doing anything...its got really boring and its all serious and no fun and games now.

yeah it's basically free if player is not working for it.

I'll try my best to explain it.
Mcoc have evolved over the time but still follows a tier/progression system. Each tier/progression have their perk and rewards tied to it. Now from events to free gifts, resources are allocated accordingly to help players to advance to next stage. That keeps players hooked to game and motivates to move forward to next available tier/progression until it hits the wall/ceiling i.e Valiant right now.

In current stage availability of 5 and 6 star acquisition is better than of pre 2020. But to rank up champs we need certain resources. Each tier/progression works towards it to acquire them. Now there is very huge gap between a valiant and Cav. Same goes for the resources, reward level and events. So the quantity of a certain resource and it's availability is tied to the required/essential amount needed to rank up champs and get to next level. Kabam decides how much is needed and how should it be distribute for that specific tier/progression. In that way Rarity, availability and amount also changes. And at certain level, that particular resources isn't needed at all as the required resources for next level changes drastically. Even the existence of that resource cease to exist in terms of ranking up champ for next tier/progression.

Example: Uncollected player might need t3cc but a paragon might not even bother as to rank up champs they need t4cc and t5cc. Their focus from 3,4&5 stars shift to 6 stars. Now they if they want to rank up 3,4,5 star champs it's their choice. But amount will be same what a uncollected are getting as those resources are tied to their progression moving ahead. But for a tier/progression where if such resource cease to exist for a progression; they can still acquire it but are not needed in a way what below tier/progression account needed it. So a high tier/progression account doesn't become entitled to a increased amount of that resource but rather do the same content as below progression/tier accounts and earn it. And certain events it also mean sacrificing the rewards which were meant for their progression.

Now in current scenario, Valiants don't even have appropriate SQ and EQ. Even rewards doesn't make sense to such accounts from these events. Valiants have been crying for better rewards while OP is crying for a resource which technically don't add value current tier/progression he is at. Even if it adds satisfactory value, still it doesn't entitle him to get those resources more than those for accounts who actually these resources are intended to be acquired and working for it.

Eakomo

The problem is majorly because the resources you need for different rariety of champs are different and with progression increases giving you a different set of rewards and no consistent way to get the lower tier resources other than stores with the same resources you use for valiant if available.

Also the fact that rank up gems aren't more popular for lower tier ranks ups is baffling we got rank ups for variants for 5* and even the terrible 2015 ones but were geared to allow us ti rank lower ones but no more available

Braga_Rhun

I understand the frustration he's feeling. I'm a valient player and am also trying to max rank and level every champ of every rarity. I have been working on 4*s for close to a year and am getting close to max ranking every single one and I try to own every one. It's a fun side challenge to focus on. Most of my glory goes to ranking up 4*s.
I currently have all 2* that I own max ranked (I don't buy the collector 2* crystals, that's stupid) and have all 3* max ranked and have 228 out of 283 4* max ranked.