I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
No, it's just objective truth. I don't even hate red hulk but leader has way more utility, quicker access to damage and more defensive value
This is an anecdote
It's literally not lmao, it's just the truth. In what world does red hulk have more defensive value, utility or damage than leader?
I just want to repeat this back so I understand.. you are saying the *Leader* has more *damage* than *Rulk*......
Not who you’re talking to, but I mean honestly maybe? People downplay Leader’s damage, which still isn’t good but it’s usable enough. The only bg fight I’ve seen in this thread of Red Hulk is a 90 second fight against a Bishop, who has negative physical resistance and feeds Red Hulk heat charges. Leader can absolutely take bg fights in less than 90 seconds. If nothing else, he’s certainly faster than Red Hulk in his target matchups where he can abuse power dissolve or regen reversal.
Ah, no.. I'm not saying Red Hulk is a good BG champ, I've only been saying he's a good war attacker - so you can play him with Recoils - benefits hugely from them.. I'll try again to post war footage https://youtu.be/YskkQDqulvI?si=carbtrSRFksvUSVG
In terms of damage, it’s fine I suppose. Leader can kinda do similar times in war though because he heal reverses willpower healing, which is a pretty consistent damage source regardless of matchup. I’ll certainly give that he wouldn’t handle that Sasquatch matchup because debuff immunity ruins him, but I don’t feel like the damage showcased here is putting Rulk miles away from Leader like you seem to claim. It’s not like Rulk was putting that Sasquatch away quickly.
And since you made a separate comment about it, I’ll add that I’m not the one disagreeing with this set of comments.
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
No, it's just objective truth. I don't even hate red hulk but leader has way more utility, quicker access to damage and more defensive value
This is an anecdote
It's literally not lmao, it's just the truth. In what world does red hulk have more defensive value, utility or damage than leader?
I just want to repeat this back so I understand.. you are saying the *Leader* has more *damage* than *Rulk*......
Not who you’re talking to, but I mean honestly maybe? People downplay Leader’s damage, which still isn’t good but it’s usable enough. The only bg fight I’ve seen in this thread of Red Hulk is a 90 second fight against a Bishop, who has negative physical resistance and feeds Red Hulk heat charges. Leader can absolutely take bg fights in less than 90 seconds. If nothing else, he’s certainly faster than Red Hulk in his target matchups where he can abuse power dissolve or regen reversal.
Ah, no.. I'm not saying Red Hulk is a good BG champ, I've only been saying he's a good war attacker - so you can play him with Recoils - benefits hugely from them.. I'll try again to post war footage https://youtu.be/YskkQDqulvI?si=carbtrSRFksvUSVG
In terms of damage, it’s fine I suppose. Leader can kinda do similar times in war though because he heal reverses willpower healing, which is a pretty consistent damage source regardless of matchup. I’ll certainly give that he wouldn’t handle that Sasquatch matchup because debuff immunity ruins him, but I don’t feel like the damage showcased here is putting Rulk miles away from Leader like you seem to claim. It’s not like Rulk was putting that Sasquatch away quickly.
And since you made a separate comment about it, I’ll add that I’m not the one disagreeing with this set of comments.
So, the fact that he can out damage a Debuff Immune/Protection Sassy without Regen mitigation is pretty good, but agree.. that's a slow fight - just saying he can do it and he landed a 165k sp3 with Sassy having 8-9 Rage.. that's pretty good
The second match was 45 seconds.. but that was largely due to my inexperience fighting Scream, had I known how to punish her sp1 it would have been closer to 30s.. yes, his utility is quite simple, but just showing he still does that Hazard Shift just fine (I have an s200 poverty Rulk and I assure you he net heals at s200 from Rupture)
And yes, I do like that he's a science champ who doesn't rely on debuffs (as I also take node 10, etc.)
Really it just comes down to simplicity and consistency. Ramps up fast, good damage, good synergies and just an all around peaceful experience. You never feel stressed playing him, like his damage rotation isn't dependent on A.I. or a time clock. Just play and sooner than later, he's ramped and good to go.
I guess I just don't understand his rotation then, because I feel like I get more damage out of literally every other science champ.
He's fire and poison immune, but still takes massive damage before turning it into a heat charge. No debuffs until sp3. Is there a worse 7 star science champ out there?
I've never done this before, but I may not even waste iso-8 on this dud.
You could have gotten The Leader. Red Hulk is way better than The Leader. He’s not like top of the tier science Titania but he is serviceable. Not to trash on The Leader…
Leader is way better than red hulk though
You're trolling, right?
No, it's just objective truth. I don't even hate red hulk but leader has way more utility, quicker access to damage and more defensive value
This is an anecdote
It's literally not lmao, it's just the truth. In what world does red hulk have more defensive value, utility or damage than leader?
I just want to repeat this back so I understand.. you are saying the *Leader* has more *damage* than *Rulk*...... Rulk has zero defensive ability lol.. he's a war attacker
Yes I am. People act like he's a wet blanket but his degen damage is absolutely nuts if you go for the sp3 rotation
Well, I knew it would happen to me eventually. My fear of pulling Red Hulk from the Titan crystal came true. I personally don't understand what anybody likes about this champion, but now that he's taking up room on my 7 star roster, I'm curious as to what uses he has.
What am I missing?
Now I duped mines.
Was watching this threads and now have dupe red hulk.
Really wish champs going into Titan pool for older champs would get a small boost/numbers boost
Well, I knew it would happen to me eventually. My fear of pulling Red Hulk from the Titan crystal came true. I personally don't understand what anybody likes about this champion, but now that he's taking up room on my 7 star roster, I'm curious as to what uses he has.
What am I missing?
Now I duped mines.
Was watching this threads and now have dupe red hulk.
Really wish champs going into Titan pool for older champs would get a small boost/numbers boost
Nice pulls though, Gentle is quite good, but please, do not go gentle with him
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And since you made a separate comment about it, I’ll add that I’m not the one disagreeing with this set of comments.
The second match was 45 seconds.. but that was largely due to my inexperience fighting Scream, had I known how to punish her sp1 it would have been closer to 30s.. yes, his utility is quite simple, but just showing he still does that Hazard Shift just fine (I have an s200 poverty Rulk and I assure you he net heals at s200 from Rupture)
And yes, I do like that he's a science champ who doesn't rely on debuffs (as I also take node 10, etc.)
Was watching this threads and now have dupe red hulk.
Really wish champs going into Titan pool for older champs would get a small boost/numbers boost
Not as good as Hulk