Season standings fixed?

TyEdge

Did we ever get points for first war? Ours still shows zero season points and it makes it hard to know where we stand.

Furrymoosen

Pretty sure we have not gotten anything yet, and I won't be surprised if it never gets fixed.
My alliance never got corrected rewards after that "removed" war from a couple seasons back.

MrSakuragi

Furrymoosen said:

Pretty sure we have not gotten anything yet, and I won't be surprised if it never gets fixed.
My alliance never got corrected rewards after that "removed" war from a couple seasons back.

Yep, unfortunately these things are usually swept under the rug

TyEdge

I wonder if @KabamDORK has any info on the missing war. It’s definitely worth up to a full tier of rewards depending on how many are affected.

KabamDORK

TyEdge said:

I wonder if @KabamDORK has any info on the missing war. It’s definitely worth up to a full tier of rewards depending on how many are affected.

I don't off the top of my head, this is something I need to follow up on when I get back in on Monday.

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SirGamesBond

Hope we don't break leaderborads. 🤞

HungaryHippo

KabamDORK said:

TyEdge said:

I wonder if @KabamDORK has any info on the missing war. It’s definitely worth up to a full tier of rewards depending on how many are affected.

I don't off the top of my head, this is something I need to follow up on when I get back in on Monday.

Horrible season. Got knocked down into T2 because the first off season war counted. Please look into that as well.

TyEdge

We’ve had a horrendous season so we’re missing points from a tier 2 war but we’ve plummeted. In other words, this uncounted war is worth roughly 1.5x our current war. Ugh.

TyEdge

Really hoping this gets worked out, even if it’s something simple like “give the rewards one tier up”

TyEdge

Good talk. No notes.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

As we stated in the post - "As of now, we don't have a timeline attached, but will update as soon as we can target and execute the above plan."

There isn't a definitive update yet, but it is still expected to be fixed before the conclusion of the season.

Kloppholz_123

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

As we stated in the post - "As of now, we don't have a timeline attached, but will update as soon as we can target and execute the above plan."

There isn't a definitive update yet, but it is still expected to be fixed before the conclusion of the season.

That has to be a joke „expected to be fixed before the conclusion of the Season.“ this affects already a whole Season bcuz of incorrect Leaderboards and u dont think its important not only to fix it immediately but didnt know exactly if it is fixed before the Season ends? What is this?

SirGamesBond

Nahh... I'll take his word on it.
Blame the devs, not the messenger.
It's not even new bug... Devs don't seem to fix the issue season after season.

TyEdge

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

As we stated in the post - "As of now, we don't have a timeline attached, but will update as soon as we can target and execute the above plan."

There isn't a definitive update yet, but it is still expected to be fixed before the conclusion of the season.

Thanks, I suppose. As of this afternoon, the season is 3/4 over and there hadn’t been any update, so the window for targeting and executing the plan has narrowed significantly. Clearly it wasn’t on Dave’s radar, not that it’s his problem to fix anyway, so it seemed worth following up to ensure it wasn’t forgotten.

It makes it very difficult to know how to proceed when you don’t even know where you are in the standings. Are we near a tier change? Are we not? How widespread was the 0-point issue? The latter question will dictate how much we move - either a full t2 war worth of points compared to competition or just the difference between our t2 war and their t3/t4 war.

Gentsy12

My confidence of Kabam being able to fix this in a timely and ACCURATE manner is as close to 0, without being 0, as possible.

DrZola

TyEdge said:

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex said:

As we stated in the post - "As of now, we don't have a timeline attached, but will update as soon as we can target and execute the above plan."

There isn't a definitive update yet, but it is still expected to be fixed before the conclusion of the season.

Thanks, I suppose. As of this afternoon, the season is 3/4 over and there hadn’t been any update, so the window for targeting and executing the plan has narrowed significantly. Clearly it wasn’t on Dave’s radar, not that it’s his problem to fix anyway, so it seemed worth following up to ensure it wasn’t forgotten.

It makes it very difficult to know how to proceed when you don’t even know where you are in the standings. Are we near a tier change? Are we not? How widespread was the 0-point issue? The latter question will dictate how much we move - either a full t2 war worth of points compared to competition or just the difference between our t2 war and their t3/t4 war.

I would bet a rewards tier bump is the solution they come up with. That way, no one gets disadvantaged because they narrowly missed the next tier by a handful of points that could have been related to the bugged season start.

Dr. Zola

Gentsy12

Additionally have they ever explained what a “bye” does? I don’t recall a time when there was a bye in AW so not sure what that actually means?

Does it count as a win? Does the alliance get 0 points? Will they calculate average points per war (I.e., some alliances get counted on 12 war season and other get counted as 11)?

MrSakuragi

Gentsy12 said:

Additionally have they ever explained what a “bye” does? I don’t recall a time when there was a bye in AW so not sure what that actually means?

Does it count as a win? Does the alliance get 0 points? Will they calculate average points per war (I.e., some alliances get counted on 12 war season and other get counted as 11)?

Nope. We still have no idea what this solution of a bye means.

Kloppholz_123

Gentsy12 said:

Additionally have they ever explained what a “bye” does? I don’t recall a time when there was a bye in AW so not sure what that actually means?

Does it count as a win? Does the alliance get 0 points? Will they calculate average points per war (I.e., some alliances get counted on 12 war season and other get counted as 11)?

I bet they didnt know what a Bye meant at this Point either. Implementing a „bye“ is not possible with the current aw System without advantages/disadvantages for some alliances.

Crys23

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Kloppholz_123

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Crys23

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

Kloppholz_123

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Crys23

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

Kloppholz_123

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

U have no clue what u are talking about. Matchmaking affects also the rewards bcuz u may get harder/easier matchups. Look back at the Season where one war was cancelled. Some alliances got podium/Masters bcuz of that easier matchmaking for them. Now they are nowhere near podium. And thats just an example. Its a fact that everybody is affected. Like it or not but stop with ur nonsense.

Crys23

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

U have no clue what u are talking about. Matchmaking affects also the rewards bcuz u may get harder/easier matchups. Look back at the Season where one war was cancelled. Some alliances got podium/Masters bcuz of that easier matchmaking for them. Now they are nowhere near podium. And thats just an example. Its a fact that everybody is affected. Like it or not but stop with ur nonsense.

You are the one without a clue.
That season was completly different. The points for that war didn't count, but war rating still changed (it wasn't supposed to). It was known in advance, so certain alliances took advantage and tanked that war to lower their rating and get easier matchups rest of the season (or at least for a little while). None of that happened this season.
Nobody knew points wouldnt work for war1 so nobody tanked. Everyone played straight up, to the best of their abilities, got the correct war rating and matched who they were supposed to match next war and next war and so on. No future matchups were affected. Again, you have no clue how any of this works.
Talking about hypothetical matchmaking differences and how that would affect rankings is pointless anyway. Nothing can be done about it. If you think something could be done, then not only you have no clue, you're an idiot too.

Kloppholz_123

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

U have no clue what u are talking about. Matchmaking affects also the rewards bcuz u may get harder/easier matchups. Look back at the Season where one war was cancelled. Some alliances got podium/Masters bcuz of that easier matchmaking for them. Now they are nowhere near podium. And thats just an example. Its a fact that everybody is affected. Like it or not but stop with ur nonsense.

You are the one without a clue.
That season was completly different. The points for that war didn't count, but war rating still changed (it wasn't supposed to). It was known in advance, so certain alliances took advantage and tanked that war to lower their rating and get easier matchups rest of the season (or at least for a little while). None of that happened this season.
Nobody knew points wouldnt work for war1 so nobody tanked. Everyone played straight up, to the best of their abilities, got the correct war rating and matched who they were supposed to match next war and next war and so on. No future matchups were affected. Again, you have no clue how any of this works.
Talking about hypothetical matchmaking differences and how that would affect rankings is pointless anyway. Nothing can be done about it. If you think something could be done, then not only you have no clue, you're an idiot too.

Lol. See thats the Point where u have no clue. Not the war Rating is the First indicator for matchmaking. Its the leaderboard itself. So stay away from me and dont try to argue if u are this clueless. Surely its not the same like that Season, but i didnt say that also. But some alliances lost, some won. The war didnt count altogether so in a way matchmaking was AGAIN broken. And yh you are right, nothing can be Done about the hypothetical outcome except compensation for everyone bcuz everyone was affected from that. Dont know whats so hard to understand about it. But yh, i am the idiot 😂😂😂😂

TyEdge

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

U have no clue what u are talking about. Matchmaking affects also the rewards bcuz u may get harder/easier matchups. Look back at the Season where one war was cancelled. Some alliances got podium/Masters bcuz of that easier matchmaking for them. Now they are nowhere near podium. And thats just an example. Its a fact that everybody is affected. Like it or not but stop with ur nonsense.

You are the one without a clue.
That season was completly different. The points for that war didn't count, but war rating still changed (it wasn't supposed to). It was known in advance, so certain alliances took advantage and tanked that war to lower their rating and get easier matchups rest of the season (or at least for a little while). None of that happened this season.
Nobody knew points wouldnt work for war1 so nobody tanked. Everyone played straight up, to the best of their abilities, got the correct war rating and matched who they were supposed to match next war and next war and so on. No future matchups were affected. Again, you have no clue how any of this works.
Talking about hypothetical matchmaking differences and how that would affect rankings is pointless anyway. Nothing can be done about it. If you think something could be done, then not only you have no clue, you're an idiot too.

Yeah, he’s wrong about that, but your claim that only a few dozen will be affected is way off. The multiplier gap is huge for the top 5 tiers.

Between tier 2 and tier 3, the difference is around 180,000-190,000 points.

Between 3 and 4, it’s 270,000-285,000.

We’ve spent a lot of the season in tier 4, but we lost a tier 2 war in the season standings. Thats 40-50 spots difference at the p3/p4 cutoff versus an alliance that opened with a tier 3 war. Compared to an alliance that started in t4 and went on a winning streak, it is substantially more.

Crys23

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

U have no clue what u are talking about. Matchmaking affects also the rewards bcuz u may get harder/easier matchups. Look back at the Season where one war was cancelled. Some alliances got podium/Masters bcuz of that easier matchmaking for them. Now they are nowhere near podium. And thats just an example. Its a fact that everybody is affected. Like it or not but stop with ur nonsense.

You are the one without a clue.
That season was completly different. The points for that war didn't count, but war rating still changed (it wasn't supposed to). It was known in advance, so certain alliances took advantage and tanked that war to lower their rating and get easier matchups rest of the season (or at least for a little while). None of that happened this season.
Nobody knew points wouldnt work for war1 so nobody tanked. Everyone played straight up, to the best of their abilities, got the correct war rating and matched who they were supposed to match next war and next war and so on. No future matchups were affected. Again, you have no clue how any of this works.
Talking about hypothetical matchmaking differences and how that would affect rankings is pointless anyway. Nothing can be done about it. If you think something could be done, then not only you have no clue, you're an idiot too.

Lol. See thats the Point where u have no clue. Not the war Rating is the First indicator for matchmaking. Its the leaderboard itself. So stay away from me and dont try to argue if u are this clueless. Surely its not the same like that Season, but i didnt say that also. But some alliances lost, some won. The war didnt count altogether so in a way matchmaking was AGAIN broken. And yh you are right, nothing can be Done about the hypothetical outcome except compensation for everyone bcuz everyone was affected from that. Dont know whats so hard to understand about it. But yh, i am the idiot 😂😂😂😂

No, war rating is main factor in matchmaking. But even if standings were, since nobody had any points after war1, all were at 0, matchmaking for war2 was like it was for war1, when all had 0 to start the season. Nobody got screwed over.
Shows how much you know. I'm done with you, you're clueless.

pseudosane

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

Kloppholz_123 said:

Crys23 said:

I'd put money on kabam not fixing this before season is over, incorrect rank rewards are sent out and then kabam sends compensation to those affected.

Everyone is affected.

Lol, no. Not everyone will be affected at the end of the season.
In fact, very few alliances will be, mostly those at the top.
If everyone gets war1 points, the net points difference compared to others around them will be insignificant, especially in lower tiers where the multiplier is smaller and the brackets are huge.
The Master brackets are very small so there will be some movement there. Top 2-4 would be different for example. Some movement in Master top10, top20 and Plat1 maybe.
But from Plat2-3 down, the brackets have hundreds of alliances and getting a few more (or less) net points than those around won't move them into a new bracket, except maybe a few at the top or bottom of a bracket.
This means that, with the exception of a few dozen alliances, everyone will get their actual rewards.

The fact that the war didnt count changed the whole matchmaking - for everyone. How this would have changed the outcome of the Season isnt predictable so everyone ist affected.

Jezuz, I meant affected in the sense of what rewards everyone gets with and without war1 points. And the fact that kabam will send rewards based on points without war1 added and then scrambling to compensate those very few who would've moved up a reward bracket with those points counted.
Talking about matchmaking beeing affected is pointless, because you assume it's working correctly under normal circumstances, which it isn't anyway.

U have no clue what u are talking about. Matchmaking affects also the rewards bcuz u may get harder/easier matchups. Look back at the Season where one war was cancelled. Some alliances got podium/Masters bcuz of that easier matchmaking for them. Now they are nowhere near podium. And thats just an example. Its a fact that everybody is affected. Like it or not but stop with ur nonsense.

You are the one without a clue.
That season was completly different. The points for that war didn't count, but war rating still changed (it wasn't supposed to). It was known in advance, so certain alliances took advantage and tanked that war to lower their rating and get easier matchups rest of the season (or at least for a little while). None of that happened this season.
Nobody knew points wouldnt work for war1 so nobody tanked. Everyone played straight up, to the best of their abilities, got the correct war rating and matched who they were supposed to match next war and next war and so on. No future matchups were affected. Again, you have no clue how any of this works.
Talking about hypothetical matchmaking differences and how that would affect rankings is pointless anyway. Nothing can be done about it. If you think something could be done, then not only you have no clue, you're an idiot too.

Lol. See thats the Point where u have no clue. Not the war Rating is the First indicator for matchmaking. Its the leaderboard itself. So stay away from me and dont try to argue if u are this clueless. Surely its not the same like that Season, but i didnt say that also. But some alliances lost, some won. The war didnt count altogether so in a way matchmaking was AGAIN broken. And yh you are right, nothing can be Done about the hypothetical outcome except compensation for everyone bcuz everyone was affected from that. Dont know whats so hard to understand about it. But yh, i am the idiot 😂😂😂😂

No, war rating is main factor in matchmaking. But even if standings were, since nobody had any points after war1, all were at 0, matchmaking for war2 was like it was for war1, when all had 0 to start the season. Nobody got screwed over.
Shows how much you know. I'm done with you, you're clueless.

Not everyone missed war 1 points.