Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
As an Onslaught counter, they’re both pretty great. As far as taking down other mutant defenders and using his kit to nuke down a massive variety of opponents, Jack is the clear winner. Bastion is too specialised and is the worse for it.
Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
Yeah of course in a power gain meta it's more annoying since you'll have to bait out specials, or counter the evade
As an Onslaught counter, they’re both pretty great. As far as taking down other mutant defenders and using his kit to nuke down a massive variety of opponents, Jack is the clear winner. Bastion is too specialised and is the worse for it.
Neither of them are great outside the mutant class and we're not about to pretend they are. They benefit highly from the class advantage and are both great mutant counters. They don't have the damage range to go outside the mutant class tho and be somewhat offensive threats or at least compete with tour generic attackers tho so their offensive uses are somewhat limited. I know jack doesn't but from the videos I've seen so far of bastion, I think the same of him but I could be wrong.
Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
Yeah of course in a power gain meta it's more annoying since you'll have to bait out specials, or counter the evade
Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
Eh, even Sinister struggles with Bullseye this meta.(Conflictor)
Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
Eh, even Sinister struggles with Bullseye this meta.(Conflictor)
I mean yeah, sinister doesnt have an evade counter. He's good because normally he can easily outlast the evade in the process of his normal loop
As an Onslaught counter, they’re both pretty great. As far as taking down other mutant defenders and using his kit to nuke down a massive variety of opponents, Jack is the clear winner. Bastion is too specialised and is the worse for it.
Neither of them are great outside the mutant class and we're not about to pretend they are. They benefit highly from the class advantage and are both great mutant counters. They don't have the damage range to go outside the mutant class tho and be somewhat offensive threats or at least compete with tour generic attackers tho so their offensive uses are somewhat limited. I know jack doesn't but from the videos I've seen so far of bastion, I think the same of him but I could be wrong.
Jack isn’t great outside the mutant class but we have so many meta mutants now (Sinister, Cap Britain, Domino, Onslaught, Dust, Gentle) he has a ton of value as is but he can work well outside those matchups. He’s not a mega nuke but he’s very sustainable if you throw an sp1 -> sp2 and can deal with Zolas and Bullseyes
On a side note I’ve been using my r2 Jack a lot more and he’s been great, I was thinking that Bastion would replace him but generally Jack seems to be doing just as good if not better. I think he’s worth the investment rn
Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
Eh, even Sinister struggles with Bullseye this meta.(Conflictor)
I mean yeah, sinister doesnt have an evade counter. He's good because normally he can easily outlast the evade in the process of his normal loop
Better than expected, but my point is more so in terms of bgs right now. We've had a string of power gain metas and without an actual evade counter waiting out his evade is gonna lose you the match.
Eh, even Sinister struggles with Bullseye this meta.(Conflictor)
I mean yeah, sinister doesnt have an evade counter. He's good because normally he can easily outlast the evade in the process of his normal loop
Plus inequity as well
Inequity doesnt affect him more this meta than any other. Even with inequity he can take Bullseye but the point I'm making is that unless you have an evade counter Bullseye is impossible this meta. Saying a champion can take Bullseye just because they're bleed immune and can take blocked hits well doesn't take into account why he's actually so tough.
Who said jack can not take matchups other then mutants is wrong i took THING down and a bunch of other non mutants with 50K points what u talkin about. Zola and sentinel under a minute 😅 BG’s is the main game content nowadays so Jack all the way. Bastion way to slow besides onslaught not worth the R3 for just 1 matchup
In a pinch, which champion does slightly better against Dark Phoenix's Nova flame?
Maybe Bastion since his charges reduce Ability Accuracy of energy damage effects, preventing them alltogether. But I would not recommend using either for Dark Phoenix
Now that the Titan pool has updated, who's better?
Well you already vote for Bastion, I guess that is your choice.
Based on every saying here the best compromise is R3 Jack and R4 Bastion.
Since Bastion is slow the extra rank will help him, and Jack don't need 🤣.
The honest true is I have no idea, I don't know anything about these champs.
Off topic, how is Iron Heart compare to these 2?
Better than both of them in my opinion. I honestly think people don’t appreciate Iron Heart enough. She has more utility with a solid damage. And she’s not slow like people say. It’s understanding how much damage you need and catering your gameplay to it, that is the difficult part. She’s sp1 to sp2 rotation and many times the sp2 is overkill. So gauging the amount of incinerates you need for sp2 is key. She’s also better for long-form content than both Jack and Bastian.
Now that the Titan pool has updated, who's better?
Well you already vote for Bastion, I guess that is your choice.
Based on every saying here the best compromise is R3 Jack and R4 Bastion.
Since Bastion is slow the extra rank will help him, and Jack don't need 🤣.
The honest true is I have no idea, I don't know anything about these champs.
Off topic, how is Iron Heart compare to these 2?
Better than both of them in my opinion. I honestly think people don’t appreciate Iron Heart enough. She has more utility with a solid damage. And she’s not slow like people say. It’s understanding how much damage you need and catering your gameplay to it, that is the difficult part. She’s sp1 to sp2 rotation and many times the sp2 is overkill. So gauging the amount of incinerates you need for sp2 is key. She’s also better for long-form content than both Jack and Bastian.
Too many people say iron heart is underrated to the point she isn’t underrated anymore.
Now that the Titan pool has updated, who's better?
Well you already vote for Bastion, I guess that is your choice.
Based on every saying here the best compromise is R3 Jack and R4 Bastion.
Since Bastion is slow the extra rank will help him, and Jack don't need 🤣.
The honest true is I have no idea, I don't know anything about these champs.
Off topic, how is Iron Heart compare to these 2?
Better than both of them in my opinion. I honestly think people don’t appreciate Iron Heart enough. She has more utility with a solid damage. And she’s not slow like people say. It’s understanding how much damage you need and catering your gameplay to it, that is the difficult part. She’s sp1 to sp2 rotation and many times the sp2 is overkill. So gauging the amount of incinerates you need for sp2 is key. She’s also better for long-form content than both Jack and Bastian.
Too many people say iron heart is underrated to the point she isn’t underrated anymore.
Especially after the bug fix with her vulnerability not working correctly
I will say Jack O Lantern absolutely obliterating Mutants is pretty funny lore-wise, because he really has absolutely nothing to do with the X-Men.
Seems most Spider-Man villains fall into either the Science or the Tech category, but I've never seen a Non-X-Men related Tech character absolutely demolishing the Mutant class like Jack does lol. I tried to find him interacting with the X-Men at *any* point in *any* of the versions of his publication history and couldn't find a single thing.
I will say Jack O Lantern absolutely obliterating Mutants is pretty funny lore-wise, because he really has absolutely nothing to do with the X-Men.
Seems most Spider-Man villains fall into either the Science or the Tech category, but I've never seen a Non-X-Men related Tech character absolutely demolishing the Mutant class like Jack does lol. I tried to find him interacting with the X-Men at *any* point in *any* of the versions of his publication history and couldn't find a single thing.
Iron Man (OG) is a great mutant counter in game, but in the comics, he never hunted mutants. Nick Fury should have absolutely no business fighting gods like Sentry and even the Hulk head on, but in game he does
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1) lack of immunity in game to his damage among defenders.
2) directly counters bullseye as well as onslaught.
He’s not particularly great in the recent or current meta (don’t want to parry even non contact attacks) but I don’t regret the decision.
A Tie
But this proves that Bastion is better than Jean too
Too many people say iron heart is underrated to the point she isn’t underrated anymore.
Seems most Spider-Man villains fall into either the Science or the Tech category, but I've never seen a Non-X-Men related Tech character absolutely demolishing the Mutant class like Jack does lol. I tried to find him interacting with the X-Men at *any* point in *any* of the versions of his publication history and couldn't find a single thing.
Nick Fury should have absolutely no business fighting gods like Sentry and even the Hulk head on, but in game he does
It's just Kabam logic