Is Okoye Worth a Generic AG?

Paul_Rudd

Just pulled her out of a titan nexus and wanted to know if she’s worth awakening. Got a 7 star generic from epoch

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BeastDad

I would. She’s the best in that crystal.

TotemCorruption

The dupe really helps her, and she doesn't need more than 1 sig, but I think it depends on whether you're going to be getting more Titans anytime soon.
I almost used my generic AG on her but then held off and awakened her from my next Titan a couple of weeks later...
I think it also depends on whether you have any champs you want to awaken that are not in any current crystals, like Sinister....

TikkaMasala

The dupe really helps her, and she doesn't need more than 1 sig, but I think it depends on whether you're going to be getting more Titans anytime soon.
I almost used my generic AG on her but then held off and awakened her from my next Titan a couple of weeks later...
I think it also depends on whether you have any champs you want to awaken that are not in any current crystals, like Sinister....

Based on this, I think you should wait until she’s out of the Titan

Paul_Rudd

The dupe really helps her, and she doesn't need more than 1 sig, but I think it depends on whether you're going to be getting more Titans anytime soon.
I almost used my generic AG on her but then held off and awakened her from my next Titan a couple of weeks later...
I think it also depends on whether you have any champs you want to awaken that are not in any current crystals, like Sinister....
Based on this, I think you should wait until she’s out of the Titan

Ok I’ll wait, I have onslaught, sinister, bullseye all unawakened. So I’m very conflicted since there’s a lot of options that I want to dupe

willrun4adonut

The dupe really helps her, and she doesn't need more than 1 sig, but I think it depends on whether you're going to be getting more Titans anytime soon.
I almost used my generic AG on her but then held off and awakened her from my next Titan a couple of weeks later...
I think it also depends on whether you have any champs you want to awaken that are not in any current crystals, like Sinister....
Based on this, I think you should wait until she’s out of the Titan
Ok I’ll wait, I have onslaught, sinister, bullseye all unawakened. So I’m very conflicted since there’s a lot of options that I want to dupe

I'd go sinister. Bullseye would be very low on my list, as his sig is very niche (unless I've been using it wrong all this time)

BigPoppaCBONE

A generic on her would be a waste. I took her to rank 3 immediately over Bullseye and she's an absolute monster that puts in work.

Herbal_Taxman

I have her duped at r3. She’s very, very good but I don’t think worthy of generic. Class gem, all day.

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captain_rogers

She'll stay on titan until December. Lot of opportunities to dupe.

I'm holding my skill AG should I use it on her? Got every other good skill champ duped but idk I can't help myself lol. Is the dupe benefit too good?

Btw use your generic on sinister he's not hitting the crystals for a while..

Herbal_Taxman

I think she’s well worth the skill gem, provided you are going to run 5/5 DW. The damage increase after awakening is really significant.

Polygon

Wait bro, theyre releasing champs that wont be in basic pools , those are the champs you want to gem. Plus skill has almost nobody else worth gemmimg so you can just use a skill one

captain_rogers

I think she’s well worth the skill gem, provided you are going to run 5/5 DW. The damage increase after awakening is really significant.

Do I need 5/5 DW? Isn't 2 enough since she gets 3 ranks by the dupe?

Polygon

I think she’s well worth the skill gem, provided you are going to run 5/5 DW. The damage increase after awakening is really significant.
Do I need 5/5 DW? Isn't 2 enough since she gets 3 ranks by the dupe?

Its to shut down MD but you also need 2 in dexterity. I hate when champs require giving points to niche masteries ngl, sure its not a must but people may as well optimize for mystics. Dw at 5/5 fell off for me for the modt part and 2 points in dex is virtually useless everywhere else

Aleor

Can anybody explain why would you use a generic ag on her? Pulled her a week or two ago, and haven't used after initial testing — seemed to me that there are many bleed or shock immune champs, plus she doesn't really do anything unique except dot. Am I missing something?

Magrailothos

Can anybody explain why would you use a generic ag on her? Pulled her a week or two ago, and haven't used after initial testing — seemed to me that there are many bleed or shock immune champs, plus she doesn't really do anything unique except dot. Am I missing something?

I agree with this.

The damage might be a bit bugged at the moment; but it seems good rather than exceptional.

Comparing her to an old champion like Elsa, they're both high-damage champions who can counter Evade. And Okoye's damage is definitely inferior, Unawakened.

Elsa also has an Evade-on-block 'opening mechanic', she can shut down the opponent's Evades almost as well as Okoye can, has a better debuff shrug-off, and degenerates/Heal blocks the opponent if she's bleeding. And there are no opponents immune to Busted debuffs, and very few immune to both Incinerate and Coldsnap (far fewer than Bleed/Shock).

Okoye's Sig will make her better, but it largely seems to counter her own weaknesses (Mystic Dispersion, and Masteries that would reduce her Shock/Bleed damage).

So... Am I missing something? Or is Okoye a little overhyped?

BigPoppaCBONE

Not overhyped. There aren't that many champs immune to shock and bleed. She has slow specials that add even more debuffs. Ensnare only requires a dodge, no one is immune, and sneaks in 30% aar.

Her extra hits run up the combo and adds some other perks like "whiffing" a light. The CPU runs in and gets lit up with the 2nd hit.

captain_rogers

Can anybody explain why would you use a generic ag on her? Pulled her a week or two ago, and haven't used after initial testing — seemed to me that there are many bleed or shock immune champs, plus she doesn't really do anything unique except dot. Am I missing something?
I agree with this.

The damage might be a bit bugged at the moment; but it seems good rather than exceptional.

Comparing her to an old champion like Elsa, they're both high-damage champions who can counter Evade. And Okoye's damage is definitely inferior, Unawakened.

Elsa also has an Evade-on-block 'opening mechanic', she can shut down the opponent's Evades almost as well as Okoye can, has a better debuff shrug-off, and degenerates/Heal blocks the opponent if she's bleeding. And there are no opponents immune to Busted debuffs, and very few immune to both Incinerate and Coldsnap (far fewer than Bleed/Shock).

Okoye's Sig will make her better, but it largely seems to counter her own weaknesses (Mystic Dispersion, and Masteries that would reduce her Shock/Bleed damage).

So... Am I missing something? Or is Okoye a little overhyped?

Bro this is definitely not true. Have you seen okoye dps? Elsa is no where close to this.

And okoye evade control is superior. Elsa is a avery unreliable evade counter imo cuz the opponent have to evade at least once first so that she can inflict coldsnap. In most cases this is definite death and very risky.

Okoye is one of the best skill champs released in a while. Her playstyle is extremely simple for a 2025 champ. Just do normal 5 hit combos untila a big sp2 and boom. Opponent melts down in seconds. Okoye also takes better advantage of despair and inequity masteries. And 1 dex, now opponent cannot evade for 18 seconds. And ensare also reduce offensive AAR by 30% which is unreliable but sometimes fail annoying abilities, like hulking pierce on hitting your block, or titty haymaker.

How many relevant defenders are immune to both/can't be Inflicted one of the debuffs, barring mutants? Korg and thing are the two I can think of. If opponent is immune to one of the debuffs that's really where the fun begins, You can easily inflict twice the amount of other debuff, providing almost similar dps.

Herbal_Taxman

Elsa and Okoye aren’t even in the same league for damage.

Busted debuffs, lol.

TotemCorruption

I think she’s well worth the skill gem, provided you are going to run 5/5 DW. The damage increase after awakening is really significant.
Do I need 5/5 DW? Isn't 2 enough since she gets 3 ranks by the dupe?
Its to shut down MD but you also need 2 in dexterity. I hate when champs require giving points to niche masteries ngl, sure its not a must but people may as well optimize for mystics. Dw at 5/5 fell off for me for the modt part and 2 points in dex is virtually useless everywhere else

Yeah same here. I'm not going to put extra points into masteries just so Okoye can counter mystics with MD.
That seems absurd to me....

captain_rogers

I think she’s well worth the skill gem, provided you are going to run 5/5 DW. The damage increase after awakening is really significant.
Do I need 5/5 DW? Isn't 2 enough since she gets 3 ranks by the dupe?
Its to shut down MD but you also need 2 in dexterity. I hate when champs require giving points to niche masteries ngl, sure its not a must but people may as well optimize for mystics. Dw at 5/5 fell off for me for the modt part and 2 points in dex is virtually useless everywhere else
Yeah same here. I'm not going to put extra points into masteries just so Okoye can counter mystics with MD.
That seems absurd to me....

She is great for node 47 Midchantress and other mystic bosses with max DW. But I would max DW specifically for her.

BigPoppaCBONE

I think she’s well worth the skill gem, provided you are going to run 5/5 DW. The damage increase after awakening is really significant.
Do I need 5/5 DW? Isn't 2 enough since she gets 3 ranks by the dupe?
Its to shut down MD but you also need 2 in dexterity. I hate when champs require giving points to niche masteries ngl, sure its not a must but people may as well optimize for mystics. Dw at 5/5 fell off for me for the modt part and 2 points in dex is virtually useless everywhere else
Yeah same here. I'm not going to put extra points into masteries just so Okoye can counter mystics with MD.
That seems absurd to me....

All those precisions can potentially get the power gain out of control with mystics, but they'll probably be dead before it becomes an issue.

Magrailothos

Can anybody explain why would you use a generic ag on her? Pulled her a week or two ago, and haven't used after initial testing — seemed to me that there are many bleed or shock immune champs, plus she doesn't really do anything unique except dot. Am I missing something?
I agree with this.

The damage might be a bit bugged at the moment; but it seems good rather than exceptional.

Comparing her to an old champion like Elsa, they're both high-damage champions who can counter Evade. And Okoye's damage is definitely inferior, Unawakened.

Elsa also has an Evade-on-block 'opening mechanic', she can shut down the opponent's Evades almost as well as Okoye can, has a better debuff shrug-off, and degenerates/Heal blocks the opponent if she's bleeding. And there are no opponents immune to Busted debuffs, and very few immune to both Incinerate and Coldsnap (far fewer than Bleed/Shock).

Okoye's Sig will make her better, but it largely seems to counter her own weaknesses (Mystic Dispersion, and Masteries that would reduce her Shock/Bleed damage).

So... Am I missing something? Or is Okoye a little overhyped?
Bro this is definitely not true. Have you seen okoye dps? Elsa is no where close to this.

And okoye evade control is superior. Elsa is a avery unreliable evade counter imo cuz the opponent have to evade at least once first so that she can inflict coldsnap. In most cases this is definite death and very risky.

Okoye is one of the best skill champs released in a while. Her playstyle is extremely simple for a 2025 champ. Just do normal 5 hit combos untila a big sp2 and boom. Opponent melts down in seconds. Okoye also takes better advantage of despair and inequity masteries. And 1 dex, now opponent cannot evade for 18 seconds. And ensare also reduce offensive AAR by 30% which is unreliable but sometimes fail annoying abilities, like hulking pierce on hitting your block, or titty haymaker.

How many relevant defenders are immune to both/can't be Inflicted one of the debuffs, barring mutants? Korg and thing are the two I can think of. If opponent is immune to one of the debuffs that's really where the fun begins, You can easily inflict twice the amount of other debuff, providing almost similar dps.

Elsa's damage is nowhere close? I said Okoye's damage is inferior, Unawakened.

And it really is.

I sure Okoye's DPS is there once she's Awakened, at max Deep Wounds, though.

I mean, Okoye's clearly a good champion.

I'm not saying she's bad, at all: she's good. Her damage is good. The Ensnared debuff is good - yes, it's a little safer than Elsa's Coldsnap, although careful gameplay can generally make that a pretty safe option. And as you describe, Okoye's simplicity is actually really, really appealing.

But I do think that, at least until she's Awakened, she's not necessarily a champion on a whole new level - unless perhaps you're 100% focused on Battlegrounds. And if you are, is she the champion you give your generic 7* Gem to? Or do you give it to Serpent/Sasquatch/Dazzler/Enchantress?

I'm just suggesting that a generic Awakening Gem, and 2 ranks in Deep Wounds (if you don't already run it) is a heck of an investment in one champion, that's all.

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ButteredPopcorn8008

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BringPopcorn

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