Spider-Woman Deep Dive

SpideyFunko

https://youtu.be/V16SF1s9AiM?si=2DI_SdQy4V7sKM2x
thoughts?

Fit_Fun9329

Outfit looks cartoonish and somehow not finished ?

dr2ws

More poison immune champions are always welcome imo, a very different science champion with the fury’s, really easy to refresh too.

Definitely a champion to get.

captain_rogers

She is very interesting, and really punishes a lot of mystic mechanics. Very solid attacker and a okayish defender I guess.

WednesdayLength

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

dr2ws

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

Certainly an interesting move for them to make a science champ very buff heavy.

WednesdayLength

dr2ws said:

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

Certainly an interesting move for them to make a science champ very buff heavy.

I mean kinda? Science champions having buffs isn't new, they just have immunity or counters to a lot of buff control which spider woman has

Bendy

Im excited for her i wish she had a synergy with more spy characters like jessica jones or misty

Bendy

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

This is probs what mkes me use him this is a good thing i hated his pause mechanic tbh of intercepting with a heavy

Emilia90

She looks great

Poison and Neutralize immunity is amazing, very nice utility, we already saw the damage is great and it works even when the opponent is shock immune (thank god), and she looks cool. My most wanted champ now to add to the science queens

WednesdayLength

Bendy said:

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

This is probs what mkes me use him this is a good thing i hated his pause mechanic tbh of intercepting with a heavy

It's not too bad, this will just allow him to stack furies to an absurd level in non debuff matches

Squidopus

Spider-Woman looks very good, although not quite my speed. Great utility, but I wonder how mystic matchups will work in practice. She’s got counters to some buff control abilities, but there’s still a number of mystics who just punish you for having buffs at all that she doesn’t directly answer. It’s probably fine in general, but there’s definitely gonna be a few mystics like Maw and Destroyer who aren’t ideal.

Also since synergies were brought up here, her Zola synergy also looks cracked. A root debuff on sp1 is just a free window for him to immediately start heavy chaining without having to resort to parry stun or sleep, and more importantly it’s an easy way to get your heavy loop going while the opponent is stuck in the corner.

dr2ws

WednesdayLength said:

dr2ws said:

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

Certainly an interesting move for them to make a science champ very buff heavy.

I mean kinda? Science champions having buffs isn't new, they just have immunity or counters to a lot of buff control which spider woman has

I mean have we seen a science champ with 20 buffs? I don’t think we have tbh.

Squidopus

dr2ws said:

WednesdayLength said:

dr2ws said:

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

Certainly an interesting move for them to make a science champ very buff heavy.

I mean kinda? Science champions having buffs isn't new, they just have immunity or counters to a lot of buff control which spider woman has

I mean have we seen a science champ with 20 buffs? I don’t think we have tbh.

We already forgetting about Sentry?

dr2ws

Squidopus said:

dr2ws said:

WednesdayLength said:

dr2ws said:

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

Certainly an interesting move for them to make a science champ very buff heavy.

I mean kinda? Science champions having buffs isn't new, they just have immunity or counters to a lot of buff control which spider woman has

I mean have we seen a science champ with 20 buffs? I don’t think we have tbh.

We already forgetting about Sentry?

Yes, he’s still irrelevant.

(Jokes aside I did literally forget about him) but it’s clear there’s very few science champions like this.

Average_Desi

3 second spell duration increase for wiccan is really solid

EdisonLaw

Just watched the deep dive, and she looks promising.
Pros: Good damage, decent utility, good defensive value without a counter, Severe debuffs make her versatile

Cons: No taunt effect (though Ant Man relic will help with that), Cannot take some mystics that punish buffs in general like Ebony Maw or Destroyer

EdisonLaw

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

Bendy

EdisonLaw said:

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

Yeah that seems annoying potentially wish her evade was stronger as ngl think is one of the weaker ones

Bendy

EdisonLaw said:

Just watched the deep dive, and she looks promising.
Pros: Good damage, decent utility, good defensive value without a counter, Severe debuffs make her versatile

Cons: No taunt effect (though Ant Man relic will help with that), Cannot take some mystics that punish buffs in general like Ebony Maw or Destroyer

She can do destroyer as she doesnt have many also buff she applies she also places a debuff

EdisonLaw

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

Just watched the deep dive, and she looks promising.
Pros: Good damage, decent utility, good defensive value without a counter, Severe debuffs make her versatile

Cons: No taunt effect (though Ant Man relic will help with that), Cannot take some mystics that punish buffs in general like Ebony Maw or Destroyer

She can do destroyer as she doesnt have many also buff she applies she also places a debuff

She gains fury buffs, destroyer gains charges, protection, plus deals instant rupture if awakened

VanillaCoke

EdisonLaw said:

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

@Kabam Crashed has said Battlegrounds is a Niche game mode, yet champions with mechanics like this are released. Not being able to dex during specials simply means chip damage. The two most important game modes that require high health are Battlegrounds and Alliance War. I’m not sure why Kabam are removing skill by adding stuff like this.

Bendy

EdisonLaw said:

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

Just watched the deep dive, and she looks promising.
Pros: Good damage, decent utility, good defensive value without a counter, Severe debuffs make her versatile

Cons: No taunt effect (though Ant Man relic will help with that), Cannot take some mystics that punish buffs in general like Ebony Maw or Destroyer

She can do destroyer as she doesnt have many also buff she applies she also places a debuff

She gains fury buffs, destroyer gains charges, protection, plus deals instant rupture if awakened

Yeah and she has wither its not really gonna effect much just like using other science shes gonna still work very well

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Ah yes the famous method of shutting off Dexterity. I love this cheap way of immediately making champions irritating defenders by shutting off a beneficial mastery as it has always promoted skillful play.

Bendy

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Ah yes the famous method of shutting off Dexterity. I love this cheap way of immediately making champions irritating defenders by shutting off a beneficial mastery as it has always promoted skillful play.

U can remove it by throwing a special

EdisonLaw

VanillaCoke said:

EdisonLaw said:

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

@Kabam Crashed has said Battlegrounds is a Niche game mode, yet champions with mechanics like this are released. Not being able to dex during specials simply means chip damage. The two most important game modes that require high health are Battlegrounds and Alliance War. I’m not sure why Kabam are removing skill by adding stuff like this.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Ah yes the famous method of shutting off Dexterity. I love this cheap way of immediately making champions irritating defenders by shutting off a beneficial mastery as it has always promoted skillful play.

At least her specials are not unblockable

Bendy

EdisonLaw said:

VanillaCoke said:

EdisonLaw said:

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

@Kabam Crashed has said Battlegrounds is a Niche game mode, yet champions with mechanics like this are released. Not being able to dex during specials simply means chip damage. The two most important game modes that require high health are Battlegrounds and Alliance War. I’m not sure why Kabam are removing skill by adding stuff like this.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Ah yes the famous method of shutting off Dexterity. I love this cheap way of immediately making champions irritating defenders by shutting off a beneficial mastery as it has always promoted skillful play.

At least her specials are not unblockable

But u still get the shock effects is why u want to dex them so u dont take the power stings

EdisonLaw

WednesdayLength said:

Her crossbones synergy is honestly nuts for him.

She seems really good as a kit as well, in just particularly excited about being able to trigger his Fury pause by intercepting when overrun is on cooldown

Pair that with Mangog and he'll be one of the best questers and war champs for sure, even in non-debuff matchups

EdisonLaw

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

VanillaCoke said:

EdisonLaw said:

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

@Kabam Crashed has said Battlegrounds is a Niche game mode, yet champions with mechanics like this are released. Not being able to dex during specials simply means chip damage. The two most important game modes that require high health are Battlegrounds and Alliance War. I’m not sure why Kabam are removing skill by adding stuff like this.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Ah yes the famous method of shutting off Dexterity. I love this cheap way of immediately making champions irritating defenders by shutting off a beneficial mastery as it has always promoted skillful play.

At least her specials are not unblockable

But u still get the shock effects is why u want to dex them so u dont take the power stings

So the best way is to throw a special before they throw their special to remove it

Bendy

EdisonLaw said:

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

VanillaCoke said:

EdisonLaw said:

Also she can disable dex on defense with the fumble debuff

@Kabam Crashed has said Battlegrounds is a Niche game mode, yet champions with mechanics like this are released. Not being able to dex during specials simply means chip damage. The two most important game modes that require high health are Battlegrounds and Alliance War. I’m not sure why Kabam are removing skill by adding stuff like this.

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Ah yes the famous method of shutting off Dexterity. I love this cheap way of immediately making champions irritating defenders by shutting off a beneficial mastery as it has always promoted skillful play.

At least her specials are not unblockable

But u still get the shock effects is why u want to dex them so u dont take the power stings

So the best way is to throw a special before they throw their special to remove it

Yeah it be interesting though on if u can special before her

EdisonLaw

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

Bendy said:

EdisonLaw said:

Just watched the deep dive, and she looks promising.
Pros: Good damage, decent utility, good defensive value without a counter, Severe debuffs make her versatile

Cons: No taunt effect (though Ant Man relic will help with that), Cannot take some mystics that punish buffs in general like Ebony Maw or Destroyer

She can do destroyer as she doesnt have many also buff she applies she also places a debuff

She gains fury buffs, destroyer gains charges, protection, plus deals instant rupture if awakened

Yeah and she has wither its not really gonna effect much just like using other science shes gonna still work very well

Also I noticed that she was taking damage against Symbiote Supreme because he nullified her buffs. Mojo will degen her if her furies expire (though they are not affected by atrophy), etc.