Prestige value QOL

Doug555

Hi Kabam,

Could you please consider adding a prestige value as a stat or a pi thing in the game? I think it would save us the hustle to keep up with up to date top prestige champs as there are new champs with very high prestige being occasionally added and the new rank availability shifts the order from the previous rank table. Not to mention prestige will play a role in a monthly EQ in the future.

Thank you.

Herbal_Taxman

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

Pikolu

Herbal_Taxman said:

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

If it is a stat ingame, then it doesn't help much because it only shows the champion prestige at where they are at.

PickL1e89

I don't know what prestige even means either

SummonerNR

PickL1e89 said:

I don't know what prestige even means either

Yet another thing that you (or Ally) haven’t gotten to yet.
Prestige as how it relates to AQ. Which also touches on Modifiers, Bonus, increasing Days with boss kills, Points, etc, etc.

And you probably also missed the big update a while back to Progression in game, making additional avenue based on Champs, to become higher Progression, without having to do the “formerly only required way” associated ACT's and their Bosses.

PickL1e89

So prestige is what explain that again for me

SummonerNR

PickL1e89 said:

So prestige is what explain that again for me

Strength value of a champ, without any masteries, without any synergies, without any boosts, without any Relics (although there is a separate Prestige for your Relics).
So, NOT the number that shows for a champ.

Prestige of a player is the average of top 5 prestige champs of that player.
Prestige of Alliance is (well, you get the point, avg of all members)

Starting AQ Prestige is your Ally Prestige when AQ starts each week. Gets modified every single day of AQ, both due to member changes as well as daily progress of AQ.

And daily AQ Prestige also determines the strength of nodes on the next day's AQ map, and thus how many points you get for defeating AQ nodes.

Herbal_Taxman

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

If it is a stat ingame, then it doesn't help much because it only shows the champion prestige at where they are at.

Yeah, god forbid Kabam does something as radical as publish a table with different prestige values for ranks and sig levels. What a wild idea to think they might do something so crazy as maintain that kind of reference for players.

I’m sure it’s somewhere on their list. Probably right below “create and periodically update a simple web page that shows players which champs are in the basic crystals.”

Pikolu

Herbal_Taxman said:

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

If it is a stat ingame, then it doesn't help much because it only shows the champion prestige at where they are at.

Yeah, god forbid Kabam does something as radical as publish a table with different prestige values for ranks and sig levels. What a wild idea to think they might do something so crazy as maintain that kind of reference for players.

I’m sure it’s somewhere on their list. Probably right below “create and periodically update a simple web page that shows players which champs are in the basic crystals.”

That's a completely different suggestion than what OP is asking for.

Herbal_Taxman

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

If it is a stat ingame, then it doesn't help much because it only shows the champion prestige at where they are at.

Yeah, god forbid Kabam does something as radical as publish a table with different prestige values for ranks and sig levels. What a wild idea to think they might do something so crazy as maintain that kind of reference for players.

I’m sure it’s somewhere on their list. Probably right below “create and periodically update a simple web page that shows players which champs are in the basic crystals.”

That's a completely different suggestion than what OP is asking for.

Nah, it seems the same to me. They just need to publish it somewhere, either in game if the UI allows, if not just put it on the site.

Pikolu

Herbal_Taxman said:

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

If it is a stat ingame, then it doesn't help much because it only shows the champion prestige at where they are at.

Yeah, god forbid Kabam does something as radical as publish a table with different prestige values for ranks and sig levels. What a wild idea to think they might do something so crazy as maintain that kind of reference for players.

I’m sure it’s somewhere on their list. Probably right below “create and periodically update a simple web page that shows players which champs are in the basic crystals.”

That's a completely different suggestion than what OP is asking for.

Nah, it seems the same to me. They just need to publish it somewhere, either in game if the UI allows, if not just put it on the site.

You're asking for a lookup table which is what I want. OP is asking for a stat in game that shows the prestige of the champion. That stat would only show them where they currently are at which isn't useful information for me.

Herbal_Taxman

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

Pikolu said:

Herbal_Taxman said:

I wonder what the disagrees represent in this case…

“No, players shouldn’t be allowed to know prestige. This is an unreasonable request.”

Or

“Players can see prestige numbers but only if they get the info from an unaffiliated third party site.”

??

If it is a stat ingame, then it doesn't help much because it only shows the champion prestige at where they are at.

Yeah, god forbid Kabam does something as radical as publish a table with different prestige values for ranks and sig levels. What a wild idea to think they might do something so crazy as maintain that kind of reference for players.

I’m sure it’s somewhere on their list. Probably right below “create and periodically update a simple web page that shows players which champs are in the basic crystals.”

That's a completely different suggestion than what OP is asking for.

Nah, it seems the same to me. They just need to publish it somewhere, either in game if the UI allows, if not just put it on the site.

You're asking for a lookup table which is what I want. OP is asking for a stat in game that shows the prestige of the champion. That stat would only show them where they currently are at which isn't useful information for me.

Agree on that one…

Doug555

I understand if it was not related to the game process directly or its rewards. There are guides to any games created by communities and fans. But Prestige in this game affects the level of rewards directly, yet we look for it elsewhere and cannot plan ahead with the rewards and our rank up decisions if we are in a prestige competitive alliances. Ok, there are very few of those. But when the new EQ format arrives, we will need to keep track of our prestige regardless in what alliance we end up. I mean they do not show prestige value of R4 champs on their official spotlight pages, and we have about 2-3 of R4 champs today for an average endgame player.

captaincush

Doug555 said:

when the new EQ format arrives, we will need to keep track of our prestige

You keep bringing this up, but I watched the most recent livestream and saw no mention of this, so what exactly are you talking about?

ETA: Ignore me, just went back and checked the recap

SummonerNR

captaincush said:

Doug555 said:

when the new EQ format arrives, we will need to keep track of our prestige

You keep bringing this up, but I watched the most recent livestream and saw no mention of this, so what exactly are you talking about?

ETA: Ignore me, just went back and checked the recap

What did the recap say about how tiny of increases to Prestige would be relevant for monthly EQ ? (asking, I don’t know myself).

If it is just basically similar to Progression based rewards, but on Prestige instead, like how Team Rating dictates what Incursions sectors you can enter. As in large ranges of Prestige. Then I don't see how micromanaging your Prestige *ONLY* as for monthly EQ would be any benefit. If you're right on the edge of one range vs another, then you wouldn’t be at the high end which needs relevant Prestige for top AQ rewards. And choosing one champ vs another, just for EQ prestige, probably wouldn’t matter.

However, if they said that even incremental differences in Prestige would result in incremental differences in # of 7* shards, etc. Then yes. But I don’t know one way or the other whether that is to be the case.

Herbal_Taxman

I think the scenario we are imagining is something like…

My prestige is currently 27,885

I will get a rewards bump at 28,000

Should I rank champ A or B to get over the next threshold? Having the data easily accessible (and validated by Kabam) would be very helpful.

peixemacaco

Total prestige is shown on profile.

Alliances get the info from there.

Why to have an info for every champ?

Pikolu

peixemacaco said:

Total prestige is shown on profile.

Alliances get the info from there.

Why to have an info for every champ?

EQ will be top 30 prestige which isn't shown in-game.

SummonerNR

Pikolu said:

EQ will be top 30 prestige which isn't shown in-game.

I would hope they would have already planned on adding that (Top-30 Prestige number) to your Profile, especially if we will be able to see the Prestige Ranges for varying Rewards, etc for new EQ.

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As for individual champs, not sure that linking the game to a spreadsheet that you would then be able to pull up from within game would be feasible.

***But what could be done is to have a new “PRESTIGE RANK #” stat on a champ's profile stats page from your roster. (same area where it shows Crit Rate, Block Prof, etc. for your champ).

Prestige Rank would just be based on a single common comparison level of Star/Rank/Sig.
So NOT based on your own level of champ.

And could just be like #4 or #38 or #210, etc, across all available champs in game (collectible champs only, not specialty Bosses, etc)

Since this would be linked to a back-end Prestige Table, when they add a champ and assign it a Prestige position in the table, all your existing champs would then automatically get their Prestige Rank # updated when new champs are released each month.

I guess people would then want them to add a new FILTER SORT order (OK, more work, but would be good) based on this underlying “potential” Prestige (again, NOT based on your champ's actual Star/Rank/Sig).
Then you could easily see what champs have best Prestige, and also tell (by their visible PI Rating) which ones you need to rankup. (but if Sort not added, at least you can check your champ's Stats page)

Doug555

SummonerNR said:

Pikolu said:

EQ will be top 30 prestige which isn't shown in-game.

I would hope they would have already planned on adding that (Top-30 Prestige number) to your Profile, especially if we will be able to see the Prestige Ranges for varying Rewards, etc for new EQ.

——
As for individual champs, not sure that linking the game to a spreadsheet that you would then be able to pull up from within game would be feasible.

***But what could be done is to have a new “PRESTIGE RANK #” stat on a champ's profile stats page from your roster. (same area where it shows Crit Rate, Block Prof, etc. for your champ).

Prestige Rank would just be based on a single common comparison level of Star/Rank/Sig.
So NOT based on your own level of champ.

And could just be like #4 or #38 or #210, etc, across all available champs in game (collectible champs only, not specialty Bosses, etc)

Since this would be linked to a back-end Prestige Table, when they add a champ and assign it a Prestige position in the table, all your existing champs would then automatically get their Prestige Rank # updated when new champs are released each month.

I guess people would then want them to add a new FILTER SORT order (OK, more work, but would be good) based on this underlying “potential” Prestige (again, NOT based on your champ's actual Star/Rank/Sig).
Then you could easily see what champs have best Prestige, and also tell (by their visible PI Rating) which ones you need to rankup. (but if Sort not added, at least you can check your champ's Stats page)

That would be ideal. But the placements might change with the new rank and should be reassigned again. For example, Gambit was one of the top prestige champs as a 7* at rank 2, when rank 3 became available, he got knocked down in the table. Or some get higher with the rebalance or the same new rank availability, or randomly (like what in the hell Sentinel doing in the top as r4 recently?).