My 2nd r4 7*

Emilia90

This is my Adam Warlock propaganda post. I think he’s one of those champs that continues to age great because of how versatile he is and I think he’s incredibly fun to play

Already have a really long Adam guide written on the forums if people wanna check that out, so I won’t say too much here but he’s really good for pretty much anything

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/373717/adam-warlock-is-amazing

Has great damage for long form content and can solo multiple necropolis fights, has great damage for short form content and can nuke the hardest defenders in BG without a hassle (Domino, Photon, Onslaught, even mystic champs like Kindred and Sassy) and his pod is one of the best pieces of utility in the game rn imo. 10/10 would recommend my golden boy

Cloudddey_bro

He is the goat. I laugh at people who still think he’s this unplayable AI reliant champ. Would’ve r4ed him over Medusa but he’s unduped, I run crit damage stat focus for him is that as good as special damage? I know the crit damage rating stat focus doesn’t really benefit that well but curious to know if that’s his best

SirGamesBond

I never liked him as 6*. Lots of my biases were based on that. But as 7* so many champs have redeemed themselves. He is one of them for sure.

captain_rogers

Cloudddey_bro said:

He is the goat. I laugh at people who still think he’s this unplayable AI reliant champ. Would’ve r4ed him over Medusa but he’s unduped, I run crit damage stat focus for him is that as good as special damage? I know the crit damage rating stat focus doesn’t really benefit that well but curious to know if that’s his best

What would you do when you do a 3 hit combo and dash back, hoping the ai will dash in and you get an intercept, but the ai refuse to dash in and hold block, or in worst case stay idle to light intercept you? Before you realise you can't intercept him and you have to dash in and break his block, your unblockable expires. Happens to me almost everytime. I don't have the reaction time of MSD. Or am I playing him wrong?

Emilia90

captain_rogers said:

Cloudddey_bro said:

He is the goat. I laugh at people who still think he’s this unplayable AI reliant champ. Would’ve r4ed him over Medusa but he’s unduped, I run crit damage stat focus for him is that as good as special damage? I know the crit damage rating stat focus doesn’t really benefit that well but curious to know if that’s his best

What would you do when you do a 3 hit combo and dash back, hoping the ai will dash in and you get an intercept, but the ai refuse to dash in and hold block, or in worst case stay idle to light intercept you? Before you realise you can't intercept him and you have to dash in and break his block, your unblockable expires. Happens to me almost everytime. I don't have the reaction time of MSD. Or am I playing him wrong?

The 2 most common AI behaviors are:

1. Dashing in and playing into your light intercept (watch the middle of the screen)
2. Holding block and you just immediately dash in and break their block

The light intercept one is rare from my 100s of tests with him but that comes down to practice to react quickly. Either with a striker, your pod, or your special, or if you’re really good dashing out and hitting them (but this does take MSD level reflexes and isn’t necessary at all)

The dashing in thing comes quickly if you do it a few times. As soon as you see your fist doesn’t connect you dash in and you’re good to go. The only time you medium intercept with Adam is when they’re against the wall and lights get risky

If you’re not in a timed environment it’s super easy to play him by going for sp3’s or just building some power and having a safety net all the time. If both of you have a special ready it gets much easier even if you don’t fully master him. His one pod is also a lifesaver and you can pop that whenever you’re unsure

Emilia90

Cloudddey_bro said:

He is the goat. I laugh at people who still think he’s this unplayable AI reliant champ. Would’ve r4ed him over Medusa but he’s unduped, I run crit damage stat focus for him is that as good as special damage? I know the crit damage rating stat focus doesn’t really benefit that well but curious to know if that’s his best

I remember testing both and I’ll have to do it again now, I think special damage is better but I’ll double check

dr2ws

I like a champion that has a very unique rotation, shame he’s AI dependent, which sounds stupid.

TotemCorruption

SirGamesBond said:

I never liked him as 6*. Lots of my biases were based on that. But as 7* so many champs have redeemed themselves. He is one of them for sure.

But unless a champ got buffed as a 7*, it shouldn't make a difference.
I think we're seeing a lot of 7s get R4'd because R4s are rare and you can punch down a lot, so almost all 7R4 champs today look great.
But when things even out, the hierarchy will return again, and champs who were good or bad as 6s among equal 6s will still be good or bad as 7s among equal 7s.
And that's not a comment on AW since I've never used him.

captain_rogers

TotemCorruption said:

SirGamesBond said:

I never liked him as 6*. Lots of my biases were based on that. But as 7* so many champs have redeemed themselves. He is one of them for sure.

But unless a champ got buffed as a 7*, it shouldn't make a difference.
I think we're seeing a lot of 7s get R4'd because R4s are rare and you can punch down a lot, so almost all 7R4 champs today look great.
But when things even out, the hierarchy will return again, and champs who were good or bad as 6s among equal 6s will still be good or bad as 7s among equal 7s.
And that's not a comment on AW since I've never used him.

That is so wrong for two reasons.

1) when bgs were introduced, every champ is a 6* except quake, magik and lol Ultron. So the good champs are overshadowed by top of the class ones, Like hulking galan and her oversh7all Good cosmics like Venom, Odin, and knull. But when these champs are released as 7*s and there's no hulking or galan to overshadow them, players actually try these champs and rank then up.

2) Stat focus makes a lot of difference, especially for champs that are crit reliant, Like venom or black cat, or rintrah. They take these champs from good to Goated.

SirGamesBond

TotemCorruption said:

SirGamesBond said:

I never liked him as 6*. Lots of my biases were based on that. But as 7* so many champs have redeemed themselves. He is one of them for sure.

But unless a champ got buffed as a 7*, it shouldn't make a difference.
I think we're seeing a lot of 7s get R4'd because R4s are rare and you can punch down a lot, so almost all 7R4 champs today look great.
But when things even out, the hierarchy will return again, and champs who were good or bad as 6s among equal 6s will still be good or bad as 7s among equal 7s.
And that's not a comment on AW since I've never used him.

R5s were not common when Adam was launched. So Cpr is was a factor;
Challenger rating makes a massive diffrence;
Stat focus adds up too.
Op took him up to r4, not many are doing that because he is performing at r3.
6* adam had hard time punching up, also his Cosmic counterparts were too strong which obviously overshadowed him.
We don't see the same probelm with 7*s. 7* are proving to be mostly stand alone work horses.
...

I had one different beef with him. Content creators went on crazy clickbaits overhyping him. ThankGod I left behind all mcoc youtubers. They'll say anything to get views.

SirGamesBond

captain_rogers said:

TotemCorruption said:

SirGamesBond said:

I never liked him as 6*. Lots of my biases were based on that. But as 7* so many champs have redeemed themselves. He is one of them for sure.

But unless a champ got buffed as a 7*, it shouldn't make a difference.
I think we're seeing a lot of 7s get R4'd because R4s are rare and you can punch down a lot, so almost all 7R4 champs today look great.
But when things even out, the hierarchy will return again, and champs who were good or bad as 6s among equal 6s will still be good or bad as 7s among equal 7s.
And that's not a comment on AW since I've never used him.

That is so wrong for two reasons.

1) when bgs were introduced, every champ is a 6* except quake, magik and lol Ultron. So the good champs are overshadowed by top of the class ones, Like hulking galan and her oversh7all Good cosmics like Venom, Odin, and knull. But when these champs are released as 7*s and there's no hulking or galan to overshadow them, players actually try these champs and rank then up.

2) Stat focus makes a lot of difference, especially for champs that are crit reliant, Like venom or black cat, or rintrah. They take these champs from good to Goated.

Ey, I just read your comment after I typed mine.

peixemacaco

Great choice

But nowadays, only a few have Adam Warlock on BG Battle Deck