Dark Pheonix makes the game unfair

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  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,379 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    It stil available to f2p if there save enough unit not essay but it is possible. Also you ain’t competing in top 1 is you
    Ya so easily save when Kabam just makes sure even after the event is live, let's add more milestones so people can spend even more unit, did you forget what happened in banquet.

    What makes you think this is for top 1%, it's for those 1% who can spend.
    As someone who only moderately spends (the $5/mo units and the sigil every month and a half), I can confidently say that your take here is wrong. I won't even spend all my units and get her, and if you were to just take the whole of everyone who spends anything I'm probably in the bottom 1% of that.
    Were you not around for Weapon X? Or are you still not around for him?
    A couple things to keep in mind. First, like you said this isn't the first time they've done it, and they've put some pretty gnarly defenders behind a paywall is Weapon X and JJ (yes, I know JJ is not that hard, but she can be), both of whom get harder with nodes just like any other defender (which you also said). So let's stop narrowing it down to a now issue like it wasn't a thing before.
    Second, Kabam's number rating system means absolutely nothing. You know how many noodles they put at 4/5 attack? A lot more than there should be. So they may label her a 5/5 defender, but she might not be that bad, or could even be a big nothing on defense. As has already been said, they're launching her with a bunch of counters already existing. The other defenders you've mentioned have needed to have champs made specifically with them in mind. That doesn't seem to be the case with Dark Phoenix, so we can be fairly optimistic that she won't be that broken as a defender.

    A unit based event is a FTP friendly event. If you didn't put the time into farming and saving units, then yeah, you've gotta spend. But anyone can get her for free.
    Exactly, Kabam rates Mysterio as a 4/5 defender.
    Mysterio!
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,259 ★★★★★
    edited May 3

    Gamer said:

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    It stil available to f2p if there save enough unit not essay but it is possible. Also you ain’t competing in top 1 is you
    Ya so easily save when Kabam just makes sure even after the event is live, let's add more milestones so people can spend even more unit, did you forget what happened in banquet.

    What makes you think this is for top 1%, it's for those 1% who can spend.
    As someone who only moderately spends (the $5/mo units and the sigil every month and a half), I can confidently say that your take here is wrong. I won't even spend all my units and get her, and if you were to just take the whole of everyone who spends anything I'm probably in the bottom 1% of that.
    Were you not around for Weapon X? Or are you still not around for him?
    A couple things to keep in mind. First, like you said this isn't the first time they've done it, and they've put some pretty gnarly defenders behind a paywall is Weapon X and JJ (yes, I know JJ is not that hard, but she can be), both of whom get harder with nodes just like any other defender (which you also said). So let's stop narrowing it down to a now issue like it wasn't a thing before.
    Second, Kabam's number rating system means absolutely nothing. You know how many noodles they put at 4/5 attack? A lot more than there should be. So they may label her a 5/5 defender, but she might not be that bad, or could even be a big nothing on defense. As has already been said, they're launching her with a bunch of counters already existing. The other defenders you've mentioned have needed to have champs made specifically with them in mind. That doesn't seem to be the case with Dark Phoenix, so we can be fairly optimistic that she won't be that broken as a defender.

    A unit based event is a FTP friendly event. If you didn't put the time into farming and saving units, then yeah, you've gotta spend. But anyone can get her for free.
    Exactly, Kabam rates Mysterio as a 4/5 defender.
    Mysterio!
    Tbh that was back in the day they dont really update old defender rating as he wont be now with how many armor breaks are in game but even in his time dark phoenix be better than him but like she wont be hard to deal with as in her kit it says how to lower the nova flames and reduce them
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,379 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    It stil available to f2p if there save enough unit not essay but it is possible. Also you ain’t competing in top 1 is you
    Ya so easily save when Kabam just makes sure even after the event is live, let's add more milestones so people can spend even more unit, did you forget what happened in banquet.

    What makes you think this is for top 1%, it's for those 1% who can spend.
    As someone who only moderately spends (the $5/mo units and the sigil every month and a half), I can confidently say that your take here is wrong. I won't even spend all my units and get her, and if you were to just take the whole of everyone who spends anything I'm probably in the bottom 1% of that.
    Were you not around for Weapon X? Or are you still not around for him?
    A couple things to keep in mind. First, like you said this isn't the first time they've done it, and they've put some pretty gnarly defenders behind a paywall is Weapon X and JJ (yes, I know JJ is not that hard, but she can be), both of whom get harder with nodes just like any other defender (which you also said). So let's stop narrowing it down to a now issue like it wasn't a thing before.
    Second, Kabam's number rating system means absolutely nothing. You know how many noodles they put at 4/5 attack? A lot more than there should be. So they may label her a 5/5 defender, but she might not be that bad, or could even be a big nothing on defense. As has already been said, they're launching her with a bunch of counters already existing. The other defenders you've mentioned have needed to have champs made specifically with them in mind. That doesn't seem to be the case with Dark Phoenix, so we can be fairly optimistic that she won't be that broken as a defender.

    A unit based event is a FTP friendly event. If you didn't put the time into farming and saving units, then yeah, you've gotta spend. But anyone can get her for free.
    Exactly, Kabam rates Mysterio as a 4/5 defender.
    Mysterio!
    Tbh that was back in the day they dont really update old defender rating as he wont be now with how many armor breaks are in game but even in his time dark phoenix be better than him but like she wont be hard to deal with as in her kit it says how to lower the nova flames and reduce them
    Yeah, but they also have Dust as a 3/5, and she's way more annoying than your average 3/5 defender.
    Basically, we shouldn't assume that Kabam can accurately predict a defender's strength.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,259 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    Gamer said:

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    It stil available to f2p if there save enough unit not essay but it is possible. Also you ain’t competing in top 1 is you
    Ya so easily save when Kabam just makes sure even after the event is live, let's add more milestones so people can spend even more unit, did you forget what happened in banquet.

    What makes you think this is for top 1%, it's for those 1% who can spend.
    As someone who only moderately spends (the $5/mo units and the sigil every month and a half), I can confidently say that your take here is wrong. I won't even spend all my units and get her, and if you were to just take the whole of everyone who spends anything I'm probably in the bottom 1% of that.
    Were you not around for Weapon X? Or are you still not around for him?
    A couple things to keep in mind. First, like you said this isn't the first time they've done it, and they've put some pretty gnarly defenders behind a paywall is Weapon X and JJ (yes, I know JJ is not that hard, but she can be), both of whom get harder with nodes just like any other defender (which you also said). So let's stop narrowing it down to a now issue like it wasn't a thing before.
    Second, Kabam's number rating system means absolutely nothing. You know how many noodles they put at 4/5 attack? A lot more than there should be. So they may label her a 5/5 defender, but she might not be that bad, or could even be a big nothing on defense. As has already been said, they're launching her with a bunch of counters already existing. The other defenders you've mentioned have needed to have champs made specifically with them in mind. That doesn't seem to be the case with Dark Phoenix, so we can be fairly optimistic that she won't be that broken as a defender.

    A unit based event is a FTP friendly event. If you didn't put the time into farming and saving units, then yeah, you've gotta spend. But anyone can get her for free.
    Exactly, Kabam rates Mysterio as a 4/5 defender.
    Mysterio!
    Tbh that was back in the day they dont really update old defender rating as he wont be now with how many armor breaks are in game but even in his time dark phoenix be better than him but like she wont be hard to deal with as in her kit it says how to lower the nova flames and reduce them
    Yeah, but they also have Dust as a 3/5, and she's way more annoying than your average 3/5 defender.
    Basically, we shouldn't assume that Kabam can accurately predict a defender's strength.
    Also so true just have to wait and see when dark phoenix arrives she could be easy to take down but just annoying to play as she be say like a stall champ
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 2,255 ★★★★★
    First I see posts that only the top 1% spenders will get her and now I see post that everyone should be able to get her since she's a 5/5 defender. I rather have the top 1% spender be able to get her so the 99% of the player based won't have to face her. Let the top 1% of the player based use her against each other. I'm more than fine with that.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,259 ★★★★★
    edited May 3

    First I see posts that only the top 1% spenders will get her and now I see post that everyone should be able to get her since she's a 5/5 defender. I rather have the top 1% spender be able to get her so the 99% of the player based won't have to face her. Let the top 1% of the player based use her against each other. I'm more than fine with that.

    Technically everyone thats paragon can get her not just spenders which is great for those people that do save units
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,267 ★★★★★

  • SoSA__RemakeSoSA__Remake Member Posts: 217 ★★

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    Yeah we know you are NOT competing in the top 1% ☠️
  • DarknessFallsDarknessFalls Member Posts: 176 ★★

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    Yeah we know you are NOT competing in the top 1% ☠️
    Well I have a life outside game with a full time job thankfully. Don't have the same amount of time at hand.
  • FishSkinFishSkin Member Posts: 174 ★★

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    Yeah we know you are NOT competing in the top 1% ☠️
    Well I have a life outside game with a full time job thankfully. Don't have the same amount of time at hand.
    Most players have some form of full time commitment. The real difference is your choice to grind or not.

    Units are very easy to obtain, but you need to put some effort in.

    Don’t have time? Spend money. Don’t have money? Spend time. Don’t want to spend either - the beauty of choice.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,736 ★★★★★

    What you always forget is 5/5 defenders make life harder even if you figure out there kit cause of the nodes they are placed on, be it the battleground meta or AW. Even counters don't work.

    Unless they make a bg node that prevents buff duration being reduced I don't see how she would be made that much harder. Also if they do just like, ban her
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,924 ★★★★★

    Now we all know this is not the first time Kabam has released the champs which are locked behind the paywall. And generally it's okay, we have the next 7* Eidol as well which a limited playerbase will acquire.

    But for some reason Dark Pheonix is a unique case. And I am not talking but not being in the crystal, or we not getting a cosmic as promised. That's another discussion. It's about her being a 5/5 defender. This breaks the game, makes it's unfair for 99% player base.

    You can give unique attackers and it's fine, but now we have to face and 5/5 defender which most player base can't get.

    We have recently gotten 5/5 defenders like serpent, bullseye, enchantress, but we all had a chance to acquire it. But giving exclusive defenders now. That just makes the game completely unbalanced and is giving an unjust advantage to 1% who will be able to afford it

    Yeah we know you are NOT competing in the top 1% ☠️
    Well I have a life outside game with a full time job thankfully. Don't have the same amount of time at hand.
    I imagine it's a full-time job just trying to maintain your superiority over everyone else here. What a hero.
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