Heart Of Fire. Absolutely massive swing and a miss

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  • AnotherconcernplayerAnotherconcernplayer Member Posts: 65

    Irdk why some people rather have Galan be in the heart of fire as the cosmic champ. I’m actually really excited I don’t have to waste units trying to get him with only 1/6 odds. I’m already saving all my titans and 7 star crystals for him. Dark phoenix doesn’t look that bad.

    It is not that players rather have Glab in HoF. Like I said on my post, I'm very happy Galan in Titan and prefet it that way.

    But from Kabam perpective, it would of been a much better strategy to put Galan in HoF.

    It is a 2 different things.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 545 ★★★
    edited May 4
    _Pez_ said:

    Doesn't really matter but carnage wasn't the only option. Does seem that Galan would have been the right calibre of character for the cosmic spot in this crystal if he hadn't been shoehorned into titans. Someone else could have had that spot in titans

    Works out better for galan fans like myself he will be more excessible in titan then in this event where most ppl wouldnt even pull him and then wait yrs to see if they can get him again
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,722 ★★★★★

    Irdk why some people rather have Galan be in the heart of fire as the cosmic champ. I’m actually really excited I don’t have to waste units trying to get him with only 1/6 odds. I’m already saving all my titans and 7 star crystals for him. Dark phoenix doesn’t look that bad.

    It is not that players rather have Glab in HoF. Like I said on my post, I'm very happy Galan in Titan and prefet it that way.

    But from Kabam perpective, it would of been a much better strategy to put Galan in HoF.

    It is a 2 different things.
    Why is it a better strategy?

    Galan in Titan crystal gets 9 months of excitement and spending for Titan related offers. And then excitement upon entering the basic pool. It is a longer term player engagement play.

    Galan in HoF crystal gets 1 week of player spending and then … nothing. You might argue that HoF Galan would increase spending compared to non-HoF Galan, but I think that Kabam’s strategy going forward is to have milestone unique Trophy champions to encourage spending rather having RNG champion to encourage spending.

    Omega Days champions have not been utilized by Kabam in any capacity since their initial 1 week in the spotlight. If you replace “Galan” and “HoF” in your suggestion with “Quicksilver” and “Omega Days”, it shows there is not necessary a strategic benefit to locking Galan to HoF.

  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★

    At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.

    Would that have made this event better?

    Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.

    The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.

    Why isn't the game ready ? Because they are attackers ? Yet your happy with a 'balanced' serpant ?
    Herc I 100% agree with as he's a cheat for story content, but the other 2 we are 100% ready for.
    Tigra is probably faster than the pair of them in the right hands.
    I'm not even complaining I dont mind who's in the pool, I would just love to know why you think the game isn't ready.
    Obviously because they're attackers.

    Agreed I've no idea why they had to go and ruin it like this, and on top of this pat themselves on the back live on stream saying "oh yeah we did a good job cause nobody guessed it which was surprising"... Wdym surprising? Is it surprising people didn't think you'd make a bad decision? Lol you'd have to be pretty dense to hype an event up this much then go ahead and release a completely different champ than what people were expecting based on how the event was presented to us, and on top of that make her a meta defender and lock her behind a huge pay wall.
    I would've taken a buffed Groot a million times over this, hope they'll learn from this (not the first time so here goes nothing).

    You're just salty all your predictions failed

    /s

    But for real, you can't expect them to add the champs people expect AFTER they've already decided on who the champion will be.

    Not to mention it's not Kabam's fault people made up their own expectations about the event based on a tease that didn't support any of the things players decided the event was.
    Not really salty, just annoyed that they hyped it up so much only to throw a curveball towards the end, you can't tell me they didn't know people would be expecting Hulkling or CGR after every other champ was revealed. This was supposed to be Omega Days 2.0 but better with powerful champs that already exist as 6* based on how they presented it, and it's not. If you think that's being salty good for you I guess lol whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
    Wasn't Omega Days the first? Doesn't Kabam usually make some changes to any event that happens if it has not been established for a long time? You can't blame them for people making up scenarios .

    Especially when we have people who even used a mistake they made in a poll as proof of a champion. Oh and don't get me started with the Octopus based on Crashed's (?) comment.There was nothing they could do except just reveal Phoenix in the beginning itself.

    And for those expecting Annihilus and Thor, Dark Phoenix is a way better option.
    The spring cleaning event was exactly the same as last year but with different names, so yes I expected the same only with powerful champs that are already 6*.

    I can guarantee you not a single soul on these forums expected Phoenix you're just sucking them off at this point, get well soon bud.

    I didn't say it wasn't, I simply said I'm disappointed and I agree with op. Don't like it? Agree to disagree and move on lol.
    It was not the exact same. There was no new 7* released through the event last year unlike this year when Red Guardian was released through the solo even. So yeah,Not the same.Oh right . Just like Dark Phoenix

    Where did I say players expected a Phoenix? I said they didn't. And that the only way they could stop players from creating their own expectations of who the champion would be, was if they had revealed it at the beginning.
    That was one change not multiple changes, and the difference is that one change made the event better not worse. Adding Dark Phoenix (not even to the crystal but to the last milestone essentially locking her behind a pay wall) made the event worse than it would've been if they just went with Hulkling OR saved Galan for the event and instead sent Dark Phoenix to the Titan. You can make a case for CGR and Herc but Hulkling? We literally have Tigra and FAM in the crystal, there is no planet universe or reality where we are ready for those two but not for Hulkling, it's laughable that they even think Hulkling is that strong and try to use that as an excuse. Are they not aware of how fast Tigra nukes in the right hands or how strong of a dual threat FAM is? Crazy attacker cause nobody's immune to his damage and an even better defender than Hulkling.

    Again, you wanna suck off the devs go crazy. My opinion is they missed the mark because of how they presented the whole event initially and how they built up the hype around the champs being announced week after week, therefore I'm not gonna spend and that's not gonna change.
    Nah, I'd rather Galan in the Titan where I have a chance at pulling him instead of having to wait 2 years before he gets added to the crystals.

    And it's really not up to you to decide which champions is too powerful to be added to the crystals. They Literally have the data about those champs. And as much as you think you know the game, you don't. And this is not just about BGs, but the game as a whole.


    Please show me where they said the 6 champs will be from the basic pool, or even be 6 champs in a crystal, or that it will be a carbon copy of Omega Days. People saw nick and Apoc and then decided all the other details for themselves.

    Dark Phoenix is a special champ and it makes sense she's not just sent to the Titan like every other champ.

    Oh and I'm glad you went from "exact same event with different name " to "Just one change, not multiple changes".

    Also, did you just say that adding a champ as a paywalled reward made the event better(re: change to spring cleaning). And then you are complaining about Dark phoenix being paywalled?

    Pick a fight bro
    Like how they had the data for Leader and every other garbage champ from last year that deserved a buff and didn't get one? Like I said, you're just sucking off the devs.

    What do you mean people decided that after seeing Apoc and Nick? Were you not here for the past three weeks when they revealed iBom, Tigra and FAM who are 6* indeed and are from different classes as well leaving the 6* cosmic as the final one to be announced? Actually let me answer that for ya, no cause you were too busy sucking them off.

    That's because Red Guardian is not meta, I spent to get one myself not because he's meta but because I like the champ and if I didn't have him it's not like I would be at a disadvantage in comp game modes so it's whatever. Dark Phoenix on the other hand well, they even called her a potent defender themselves and her abilities definitely fit that description, she will be meta. Of course I have a problem with them locking a meta champ behind a pay wall.

    No idea what you mean by pick a fight but if what you were trying to say was pick a struggle, at least use a different translator instead of the generic Google translate one, it's not making you sound as smart as you'd like.
    The Leader is as strong as they want him to be. He was dominating close Encounters Meta.

    Players had already came up with the predictions long before any of the other champions were revealed. You expect them to say "Every champ will be from the basics , except Cosmic. " Good luck with that.

    Right, so them Paywalling a champ you were able to obtain is a good change, but a champ that you can't get is bad. Got it.

    Right , Pick a Struggle. You can't say adding a paywalled champ is a good change and then in the same breath say that adding a paywalled champ was bad.

    Oh I'm good, it's really not that hard to be smarter than someone who thought a mistake made by Kabam was a clue for an event 2 years later.
    Not me, I only expected Hulkling after they announced the other three for obvious reasons.

    I can get her, just like I got Red Guardian, and on second thought I probably will because again she will be meta. I still think they missed the mark with how they presented the whole event regardless.

    Adding one that isn't meta is fine, adding one that is, is not.

    You're smart enough to type all that but not smart enough to do it without Google translate, I don't think so.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★

    At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.

    Would that have made this event better?

    Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.

    The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.

    Why isn't the game ready ? Because they are attackers ? Yet your happy with a 'balanced' serpant ?
    Herc I 100% agree with as he's a cheat for story content, but the other 2 we are 100% ready for.
    Tigra is probably faster than the pair of them in the right hands.
    I'm not even complaining I dont mind who's in the pool, I would just love to know why you think the game isn't ready.
    Obviously because they're attackers.

    Agreed I've no idea why they had to go and ruin it like this, and on top of this pat themselves on the back live on stream saying "oh yeah we did a good job cause nobody guessed it which was surprising"... Wdym surprising? Is it surprising people didn't think you'd make a bad decision? Lol you'd have to be pretty dense to hype an event up this much then go ahead and release a completely different champ than what people were expecting based on how the event was presented to us, and on top of that make her a meta defender and lock her behind a huge pay wall.
    I would've taken a buffed Groot a million times over this, hope they'll learn from this (not the first time so here goes nothing).

    You're just salty all your predictions failed

    /s

    But for real, you can't expect them to add the champs people expect AFTER they've already decided on who the champion will be.

    Not to mention it's not Kabam's fault people made up their own expectations about the event based on a tease that didn't support any of the things players decided the event was.
    Not really salty, just annoyed that they hyped it up so much only to throw a curveball towards the end, you can't tell me they didn't know people would be expecting Hulkling or CGR after every other champ was revealed. This was supposed to be Omega Days 2.0 but better with powerful champs that already exist as 6* based on how they presented it, and it's not. If you think that's being salty good for you I guess lol whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
    Wasn't Omega Days the first? Doesn't Kabam usually make some changes to any event that happens if it has not been established for a long time? You can't blame them for people making up scenarios .

    Especially when we have people who even used a mistake they made in a poll as proof of a champion. Oh and don't get me started with the Octopus based on Crashed's (?) comment.There was nothing they could do except just reveal Phoenix in the beginning itself.

    And for those expecting Annihilus and Thor, Dark Phoenix is a way better option.
    The spring cleaning event was exactly the same as last year but with different names, so yes I expected the same only with powerful champs that are already 6*.

    I can guarantee you not a single soul on these forums expected Phoenix you're just sucking them off at this point, get well soon bud.

    I didn't say it wasn't, I simply said I'm disappointed and I agree with op. Don't like it? Agree to disagree and move on lol.
    It was not the exact same. There was no new 7* released through the event last year unlike this year when Red Guardian was released through the solo even. So yeah,Not the same.Oh right . Just like Dark Phoenix

    Where did I say players expected a Phoenix? I said they didn't. And that the only way they could stop players from creating their own expectations of who the champion would be, was if they had revealed it at the beginning.
    That was one change not multiple changes, and the difference is that one change made the event better not worse. Adding Dark Phoenix (not even to the crystal but to the last milestone essentially locking her behind a pay wall) made the event worse than it would've been if they just went with Hulkling OR saved Galan for the event and instead sent Dark Phoenix to the Titan. You can make a case for CGR and Herc but Hulkling? We literally have Tigra and FAM in the crystal, there is no planet universe or reality where we are ready for those two but not for Hulkling, it's laughable that they even think Hulkling is that strong and try to use that as an excuse. Are they not aware of how fast Tigra nukes in the right hands or how strong of a dual threat FAM is? Crazy attacker cause nobody's immune to his damage and an even better defender than Hulkling.

    Again, you wanna suck off the devs go crazy. My opinion is they missed the mark because of how they presented the whole event initially and how they built up the hype around the champs being announced week after week, therefore I'm not gonna spend and that's not gonna change.
    Nah, I'd rather Galan in the Titan where I have a chance at pulling him instead of having to wait 2 years before he gets added to the crystals.

    And it's really not up to you to decide which champions is too powerful to be added to the crystals. They Literally have the data about those champs. And as much as you think you know the game, you don't. And this is not just about BGs, but the game as a whole.


    Please show me where they said the 6 champs will be from the basic pool, or even be 6 champs in a crystal, or that it will be a carbon copy of Omega Days. People saw nick and Apoc and then decided all the other details for themselves.

    Dark Phoenix is a special champ and it makes sense she's not just sent to the Titan like every other champ.

    Oh and I'm glad you went from "exact same event with different name " to "Just one change, not multiple changes".

    Also, did you just say that adding a champ as a paywalled reward made the event better(re: change to spring cleaning). And then you are complaining about Dark phoenix being paywalled?

    Pick a fight bro
    Like how they had the data for Leader and every other garbage champ from last year that deserved a buff and didn't get one? Like I said, you're just sucking off the devs.

    What do you mean people decided that after seeing Apoc and Nick? Were you not here for the past three weeks when they revealed iBom, Tigra and FAM who are 6* indeed and are from different classes as well leaving the 6* cosmic as the final one to be announced? Actually let me answer that for ya, no cause you were too busy sucking them off.

    That's because Red Guardian is not meta, I spent to get one myself not because he's meta but because I like the champ and if I didn't have him it's not like I would be at a disadvantage in comp game modes so it's whatever. Dark Phoenix on the other hand well, they even called her a potent defender themselves and her abilities definitely fit that description, she will be meta. Of course I have a problem with them locking a meta champ behind a pay wall.

    No idea what you mean by pick a fight but if what you were trying to say was pick a struggle, at least use a different translator instead of the generic Google translate one, it's not making you sound as smart as you'd like.
    Did I just read that red guardian isn’t meta?? Yeah ok, I think your grasp on metas is a bit off. He is one of the fastest nukes in the game at a seven star rank 3 level.

    And this all boils down to unmet expectations. You went into this expecting a very specific outcome, and when it didn’t go your way, now it’s a terrible event. Just because this event didn’t turn out the way many of us were expecting, doesn’t mean it’s a “swing and a miss”
    I know, I have a 7* rank 3 already but people rarely ban him and he isn't in many decks, neither is the 6*. I didn't say he was bad but he is not meta currently, he's a nuke like stark spidey sure but he isn't an absolute must have in the same way certain defenders and other attackers are where if you don't have them they need to be instabanned.

    Well yes that's my opinion and I agree with op, you can just disagree with it like the rest of people did lol and that's fine too.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,966 ★★★★★

    At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.

    Would that have made this event better?

    Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.

    The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.

    Why isn't the game ready ? Because they are attackers ? Yet your happy with a 'balanced' serpant ?
    Herc I 100% agree with as he's a cheat for story content, but the other 2 we are 100% ready for.
    Tigra is probably faster than the pair of them in the right hands.
    I'm not even complaining I dont mind who's in the pool, I would just love to know why you think the game isn't ready.
    Obviously because they're attackers.

    Agreed I've no idea why they had to go and ruin it like this, and on top of this pat themselves on the back live on stream saying "oh yeah we did a good job cause nobody guessed it which was surprising"... Wdym surprising? Is it surprising people didn't think you'd make a bad decision? Lol you'd have to be pretty dense to hype an event up this much then go ahead and release a completely different champ than what people were expecting based on how the event was presented to us, and on top of that make her a meta defender and lock her behind a huge pay wall.
    I would've taken a buffed Groot a million times over this, hope they'll learn from this (not the first time so here goes nothing).

    You're just salty all your predictions failed

    /s

    But for real, you can't expect them to add the champs people expect AFTER they've already decided on who the champion will be.

    Not to mention it's not Kabam's fault people made up their own expectations about the event based on a tease that didn't support any of the things players decided the event was.
    Not really salty, just annoyed that they hyped it up so much only to throw a curveball towards the end, you can't tell me they didn't know people would be expecting Hulkling or CGR after every other champ was revealed. This was supposed to be Omega Days 2.0 but better with powerful champs that already exist as 6* based on how they presented it, and it's not. If you think that's being salty good for you I guess lol whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
    Wasn't Omega Days the first? Doesn't Kabam usually make some changes to any event that happens if it has not been established for a long time? You can't blame them for people making up scenarios .

    Especially when we have people who even used a mistake they made in a poll as proof of a champion. Oh and don't get me started with the Octopus based on Crashed's (?) comment.There was nothing they could do except just reveal Phoenix in the beginning itself.

    And for those expecting Annihilus and Thor, Dark Phoenix is a way better option.
    The spring cleaning event was exactly the same as last year but with different names, so yes I expected the same only with powerful champs that are already 6*.

    I can guarantee you not a single soul on these forums expected Phoenix you're just sucking them off at this point, get well soon bud.

    I didn't say it wasn't, I simply said I'm disappointed and I agree with op. Don't like it? Agree to disagree and move on lol.
    It was not the exact same. There was no new 7* released through the event last year unlike this year when Red Guardian was released through the solo even. So yeah,Not the same.Oh right . Just like Dark Phoenix

    Where did I say players expected a Phoenix? I said they didn't. And that the only way they could stop players from creating their own expectations of who the champion would be, was if they had revealed it at the beginning.
    That was one change not multiple changes, and the difference is that one change made the event better not worse. Adding Dark Phoenix (not even to the crystal but to the last milestone essentially locking her behind a pay wall) made the event worse than it would've been if they just went with Hulkling OR saved Galan for the event and instead sent Dark Phoenix to the Titan. You can make a case for CGR and Herc but Hulkling? We literally have Tigra and FAM in the crystal, there is no planet universe or reality where we are ready for those two but not for Hulkling, it's laughable that they even think Hulkling is that strong and try to use that as an excuse. Are they not aware of how fast Tigra nukes in the right hands or how strong of a dual threat FAM is? Crazy attacker cause nobody's immune to his damage and an even better defender than Hulkling.

    Again, you wanna suck off the devs go crazy. My opinion is they missed the mark because of how they presented the whole event initially and how they built up the hype around the champs being announced week after week, therefore I'm not gonna spend and that's not gonna change.
    Nah, I'd rather Galan in the Titan where I have a chance at pulling him instead of having to wait 2 years before he gets added to the crystals.

    And it's really not up to you to decide which champions is too powerful to be added to the crystals. They Literally have the data about those champs. And as much as you think you know the game, you don't. And this is not just about BGs, but the game as a whole.


    Please show me where they said the 6 champs will be from the basic pool, or even be 6 champs in a crystal, or that it will be a carbon copy of Omega Days. People saw nick and Apoc and then decided all the other details for themselves.

    Dark Phoenix is a special champ and it makes sense she's not just sent to the Titan like every other champ.

    Oh and I'm glad you went from "exact same event with different name " to "Just one change, not multiple changes".

    Also, did you just say that adding a champ as a paywalled reward made the event better(re: change to spring cleaning). And then you are complaining about Dark phoenix being paywalled?

    Pick a fight bro
    Like how they had the data for Leader and every other garbage champ from last year that deserved a buff and didn't get one? Like I said, you're just sucking off the devs.

    What do you mean people decided that after seeing Apoc and Nick? Were you not here for the past three weeks when they revealed iBom, Tigra and FAM who are 6* indeed and are from different classes as well leaving the 6* cosmic as the final one to be announced? Actually let me answer that for ya, no cause you were too busy sucking them off.

    That's because Red Guardian is not meta, I spent to get one myself not because he's meta but because I like the champ and if I didn't have him it's not like I would be at a disadvantage in comp game modes so it's whatever. Dark Phoenix on the other hand well, they even called her a potent defender themselves and her abilities definitely fit that description, she will be meta. Of course I have a problem with them locking a meta champ behind a pay wall.

    No idea what you mean by pick a fight but if what you were trying to say was pick a struggle, at least use a different translator instead of the generic Google translate one, it's not making you sound as smart as you'd like.
    The Leader is as strong as they want him to be. He was dominating close Encounters Meta.

    Players had already came up with the predictions long before any of the other champions were revealed. You expect them to say "Every champ will be from the basics , except Cosmic. " Good luck with that.

    Right, so them Paywalling a champ you were able to obtain is a good change, but a champ that you can't get is bad. Got it.

    Right , Pick a Struggle. You can't say adding a paywalled champ is a good change and then in the same breath say that adding a paywalled champ was bad.

    Oh I'm good, it's really not that hard to be smarter than someone who thought a mistake made by Kabam was a clue for an event 2 years later.
    Not me, I only expected Hulkling after they announced the other three for obvious reasons.

    I can get her, just like I got Red Guardian, and on second thought I probably will because again she will be meta. I still think they missed the mark with how they presented the whole event regardless.

    Adding one that isn't meta is fine, adding one that is, is not.

    You're smart enough to type all that but not smart enough to do it without Google translate, I don't think so.
    Good lord, is my English that bad?

    @Demonzfyre , I don't know if you remember, but this reminds me of a convo we had years ago.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★
    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,723 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,723 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
  • BulmktBulmkt Member Posts: 1,744 ★★★★
    None of the champs in HoF Imo are game changers or game breakers. Sure a 7-star Fury would be nice (until your opponent uses DPX) but I think this event is massively overrated & overhyped.

    So if you already have the units in the bank or have the cash to buy the units then go for it. I myself will get out of this event what I can for either free or a minimal unit spend.
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 745 ★★★★
    edited 1:35AM

    At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.

    Would that have made this event better?

    Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.

    The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.

    It's curious, getting one of the worst cosmic champs as a 7 star, Serpent, being the strongest defender actually in AW and Battlegrounds, and that's okay, so, broken attackers can't be an option?
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,797 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    Two different between paywall. This one here is behind a unit while unit is gaining via money but can be gained for free. So. Unlike some like deadpull and now red guardian that was literally paywall.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,723 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
    So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,797 ★★★★★

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
    So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
    Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★
    edited 11:14AM
    Gamer said:

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
    So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
    Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
    In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
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  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,797 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
    So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
    Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
    In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
    Again it not. A actually. Paywall. It whatever I get it obviously there ain’t a lot that’s do that’s.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,046 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Gamer said:

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
    So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
    Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
    In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
    Again it not. A actually. Paywall. It whatever I get it obviously there ain’t a lot that’s do that’s.
    Lol okay bud it's not a paywall then, anyone can no life the game 24/7 for sure.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,797 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Gamer said:

    DocWest said:

    You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.

    If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
    If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
    If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
    I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
    You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
    Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
    You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀
    I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
    And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
    So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
    Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
    In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
    Again it not. A actually. Paywall. It whatever I get it obviously there ain’t a lot that’s do that’s.
    Lol okay bud it's not a paywall then, anyone can no life the game 24/7 for sure.
    U don’t need 24/7 to grind. It take 1 hour to 2 obviously. That’s a lot from a day and if you don’t like to do that’s it fair play
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    Me personally i dont see serpent as a solid defender my r2 purg fought him to a standstill. So im hoping dark phoenix is stronger then serpant
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