Your most underrated champion picks

Some examples of Terrax just going crazy in ROL. The slower ones is Terrax all on his own no boosts no synergies at RANK TWO. Sig 20.

The faster one is still no boosts but with Galan, Anihullus, Hiemdall and Angela. Honestly the Heimdall synergy just slows him down, taking a second and a half for just 15% more attack isn’t even that big a benefit for this short (yes SHORT) a fight.

I fear to imagine what a R3 or even R4 could do. May well be able to one cycle without having to go to L2. I’m not gonna say I’m the best Terrax player at all, I’m probably using him super sub optimally, and a high sig will definitely knock off tens of seconds from his time (removing half the build up back to an L2)

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

JhonST33

Serpent on attack

Serpent on attack is underrated?
Why?
He is one of the best cosmic attacker.

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential

I mean. If you look at the history of most loved mutants you see champs like

Omega Red
Havok
Archangel
Apoc
Prof X
Mr Sinister
Dazzler
DPX
Onslaught

Who you don’t see is

Storm PX
Gambit
Emma Frost
Captain Britain

The first group of champs don’t rely at all on crit RNG on specials, cause they do alternate damage or have guaranteed crits (Dazzler)

The second have a high ceiling (or did relative to when they were released) but rely on crit RNG on their specials, why take the risk in a mode like BGs or AW, ESPECIALLY if you take damage from in built recoil at the end of the special. Sure Gentle CAN do fights in 30 seconds, but can he do every fight in 30 seconds? Or does he take some at 100% in 30, and others at below 90 in more like 50?

I'm so glad kabam decided to add crit modifiers for the mutants because they have ALWAYS been the class with the highest damage outputs (per rotation).
It just went under the radar because their damage was never consistent. I was shocked when I saw storm px was a 5/5 attacker when i read her spotlight last year.
Literally no one would've believed she was because of the terrible crit rate.
Same with champs like bishop and dani moonstar.
Mutant has always excelled damage wise they just lacked consistency and im happy the devs are addicting that factor to their kits.

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.

Really? He can do 500k in one rotation?
I've seen him STRUGGLE to kill r3 bullseyes in Bg's.
Is yours r4?

Emilia90

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.
I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential

I mean a lot of inconsistent attackers like Titania are still amazing, just depends on their matchups I guess (and she can do like 90% of meta defenders which is crazy good) even if the AI is wonky

Answering the question, I’d say White Tiger is still under appreciated. Very fun champ to use

GrassKnuckles

Class by class: Silver Sable, Colossus, Ironheart, Vox, Purgatory, Spider-Punk

Class by class: Silver Sable, Colossus, Ironheart, Vox, Purgatory, Spider-Punk

Not Arcade?

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.
I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential
I mean a lot of inconsistent attackers like Titania are still amazing, just depends on their matchups I guess (and she can do like 90% of meta defenders which is crazy good) even if the AI is wonky

Answering the question, I’d say White Tiger is still under appreciated. Very fun champ to use

Yeah but Titanias damage loop doesn’t rely on her critting on her special attacks, if she fails to crit on a couple hits you’ve got about 2 full combos after the L3 rotation to make up for it, whereas for a lot of these mutants they get 3 or so hits which need to crit or they have to ramp up all over again

Moleman

Venompool.

Wiccan

Serpent on attack
Serpent on attack is underrated?
Why?
He is one of the best cosmic attacker.

A lot of people think he's bad for BGs in attack, so I thought he was underrated

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.
Really? He can do 500k in one rotation?
I've seen him STRUGGLE to kill r3 bullseyes in Bg's.
Is yours r4?

Nope r3, and he hasn't failed me once yet so I want to see all these videos of him not closing out fights cause I highly doubt it happens that often. 9 times out of 10 he gets me three crits which is well over 400k damage in total, enough to kill almost anything.
I think it's just a misconception because his base crit rating is so low, he gets close to 5k crit rating during sp2 tho which is more than a sig 200 Red Guardian with two debuffs on the defender to put things into perspective.

Yh i know his crit rating is very high
I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.

Every week I read comments about his built in recoils and his terrible base crit rating lol as if any of that made him bad, clearly it doesn't.
I think the built in recoil issue is just for BG players. I mean with 11 Daunteds he does the trick in a lot of fights but locking his max damage behind either max sig or 10% self inflicted damage is kinda rough. Especially when his L2 struggles to crit on a lot of hits which means that he’s not as consistent an attacker as you would like.

A lot of BGs is just about consistency. The reason Shocker is so loved is cause he can’t crit, and his damage is the same every fight, so you know what rotation to run every fight. Mutants which rely on crit RNG have always struggled to be loved, despite having really high damage potential

Couple of things here:

1. Built in recoils are only an issue if the sp2 doesn't kill, my experience so far in BGs it's an instant ko 9 times out of 10.
2. His sp2 doesn't struggle to crit that's a misconception and I'm not sure where it started but some on these forums say the same thing. He gains 5k crit rating during sp2, to put things into perspective CGR's sp2 crit buff gives him 9k crit rating, sig 200 Red Guardian has around 4.5k crit rating with two debuffs on the defender. It makes no sense for Gentle to be landing very few crits like some people claim, and again this hasn't been the case for me with my r3 personally.

That's what makes Gentle different here, he has massive crit rating during sp2 and you almost always get at least three crits. I've done a lot of testing both in BGs and RoL, he's even more consistent than Sunspot when it comes to crits, way more consistent.

Yh i know his crit rating is very high
I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.

Did he throw specials while unstoppable? Cause that's what gives him the massive attack rating boost as well.
Also who did he use him against? If you're punching a bunch of ranks above or using him against someone like Rintrah yes very unlikely one sp2 will kill.

Ercarret

Howard the Duck, Sandman and Venompool are probably my top 3 slightly unusual rank-ups.

If Howard didn't have so much of his utility hidden away in synergies, he'd be a god. I've easily soloed Necropolis fights with him all synergised up. (I really struggled against Sauron on several runs only to solo him on my first try with Howard. Ridiculous.) However, even on his own, he's really solid for a whole lot of stuff. He has a bunch of buffs on command, just as many debuffs on command, easy access to heal block and a fairly potent access to power-control via the suppression debuffs on his SP2.

I've sung Sandman's praises before so I won't go into too much detail now, but he has a ton of utility and great damage. Especially now that I've mostly transitioned away from Battlegrounds, I just find more and more uses for him in all kinds of content.

Lastly, Venompool is just amazing against all manner of Tech (and especially robot) champions. He has this reputation for being a really slow ramp-up champion but what people often miss is that whenever one of his many immunities triggers, that ramp-up gets cut down drastically. That means that there are a ton of situation where he has a very quick path to full ramp and he shines really brightly. He's not amazing against every champion in the game but he fills a lot of niches.

Yh i know his crit rating is very high
I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.
Did he throw specials while unstoppable? Cause that's what gives him the massive attack rating boost as well.
Also who did he use him against? If you're punching a bunch of ranks above or using him against someone like Rintrah yes very unlikely one sp2 will kill.

The fights I remember were against bullseye
I know gentle is a competent bullseye counter tho, just was surprising

shield311

Odin, Namor and Prof X

Yh i know his crit rating is very high
I've seen bero man use him multiple times with the sp2 not killing and the fight finishing in 70+ secs this meta. I also think he played with the 13th daunted cos he was finishing with about 80%+ health.
Did he throw specials while unstoppable? Cause that's what gives him the massive attack rating boost as well.
Also who did he use him against? If you're punching a bunch of ranks above or using him against someone like Rintrah yes very unlikely one sp2 will kill.
The fights I remember were against bullseye
I know gentle is a competent bullseye counter tho, just was surprising

Was it during the indestructible meta? He was very tricky to use on attack there, either half your hits would land while the defender was indestructible, or you wouldn't be able to throw it while unstoppable, both would basically cut his damage in half but it wasn't the crits themselves.

Its been this meta mostly but its fine
I'll just assume he didn't throw it at 13 daunted because im not 100% sure.
If I do pull gentle, he's going into my deck as I do need a bullseye counter since my other one is r4 and perma banned.
He also has some solid defensive prowess and can be used on attack outside skill (unlike noodlesonic)
I always thought he was good.

BKSwisherSweet

Not sure if White Tiger counts but I’d say her since I use her all the time to nuke things.