Help me pick another Bullseye counter

Masquirade

Despite having a pretty developed roster, I'm trying to expand my options for fighting Bullseye. Got some rankups to do, I'd be curious as to who your favourites would be out of the following (please feel free to name your favourite non-mutant counter in the thread too) - thanks in advance;

summerdeer

Cyclops

kitty is a better option she relies on no rng when fighting bullseye

Riptide

Dust

Okoye works great, but she still takes his bleed damage. Any bleed immune champ will work in a pinch

Chobbly

Cyclops

I know there are better options than Cyclops, but couldn't resist as there's few things in the game as satisfying as blasting Bullseye into the middle of next week.

willrun4adonut

Dust

But my favorite counter is actually Okoye.

captain_rogers

Dust

Purely to counter bullseye - iceman
Better champ overall that counters bullseye - dust

captain_rogers

Dust

willrun4adonut said:

But my favorite counter is actually Okoye.

Not Sinister? Betrayal 💔

willrun4adonut

Dust

captain_rogers said:

willrun4adonut said:

But my favorite counter is actually Okoye.

Not Sinister? Betrayal 💔

Was wondering if anyone was going to pick up on that. Just for this current week 3/4 GC meta. Then he'll be back on top.

Hoitado

Sorry could anyone explain to me how Cyclops is a Counter to Bullseye? 😬

Terminatrix

Hoitado said:

Sorry could anyone explain to me how Cyclops is a Counter to Bullseye? 😬

He has an evade fail ability

RoyalGamer01

Cyclops

Gentle is great bullseye counter if you don't have him ranked up+He have good defensive value

WhatsGoodEnglish

Cyclops

Guardian does a great job countering him as well. You’ll have to bait a couple SP1s but you can parry them and take only a small amount of damage. He’s the best Bullseye counter for this current GC meta

If you have him awakened, Punisher 2099 is a great sneaky counter to him as well. Just dance around for the first 8 to 10 seconds, then play aggressively when his battery is charged. You’ll give him so little power that he’ll be dead by the time he gets to his SP1

Ragnaruk5178

Cyclops

Odin spam 3 heavies you have a bar of power then sp1 for true strike

Ragnaruk5178

Cyclops

Yeah gentle is actually a nuisance on defense

Ragnaruk5178

Cyclops

Cyclops has true focus so he cannot be evaded or miss

ViperOfChampion

summerdeer said:

kitty is a better option she relies on no rng when fighting bullseye

AI cooperation is a form of rng

captain_rogers

Dust

ViperOfChampion said:

summerdeer said:

kitty is a better option she relies on no rng when fighting bullseye

AI cooperation is a form of rng

You don't need ai coop against Bullseye. Just dash in, if you intercept, well and good. If you get hit, even better. If you hit is block or he dexes you, try again.

Magrailothos

Ironheart is my favourite Bullseye counter.

She's not super-fast; but once she's got five debuffs on him, he can't inflict bleeds through her block; and if Awakened, she's got amazing block proficiency, so chip damage is minimal.

Plus, this GC meta, if she accidentally lands a Parry, the stun won't reflect.

Add in the weakness effect of Inequity and a Sentinel relic; and that SP1 he loves to throw all the time will barely tickle her.

All he's got left is his Evade; which you can play around, easily.

peixemacaco

Dust

Mr. Sinister is amazing
Regen everytime

Masquirade

WhatsGoodEnglish said:

Guardian does a great job countering him as well. You’ll have to bait a couple SP1s but you can parry them and take only a small amount of damage. He’s the best Bullseye counter for this current GC meta

If you have him awakened, Punisher 2099 is a great sneaky counter to him as well. Just dance around for the first 8 to 10 seconds, then play aggressively when his battery is charged. You’ll give him so little power that he’ll be dead by the time he gets to his SP1

I've actually been looking at an excuse to rank up my Guardian for the longest time, really appreciate this 👍

Masquirade

Can't believe this. 64 votes and I'm currently tied at 22 votes each for Dust and Cyclops haha.

ItsClobberinTime

Dust

Not saying they're bad at all but both Cyclops and Guardian need sig 200 to counter Bullseye, without it they do take a lot of chip damage.

Ercarret

Cyclops

ItsClobberinTime said:

Not saying they're bad at all but both Cyclops and Guardian need sig 200 to counter Bullseye, without it they do take a lot of chip damage.

Not necessarily. Since Cyke has easy access to True Focus throughout the fight, you can (relatively) easily push Bullseye to his Sp2 which is significantly easier to avoid without even dexing it and result in much less chip damage.

Edit: I should say, it's much easier to avoid dexing a large part of the Sp2. You still need to dex the last two hits. But that's still a whole lot easier than dexing the Sp1.

Hoitado

After learning I could use Cyclops to fight Bullseye I took that knowledge into Battlegrounds and when the match started Bullseye dashed back and was holding block so I dashed in and he parried me and killed me in one combo 😭

Ercarret

Cyclops

Hoitado said:

After learning I could use Cyclops to fight Bullseye I took that knowledge into Battlegrounds and when the match started Bullseye dashed back and was holding block so I dashed in and he parried me and killed me in one combo 😭

Battlegrounds is a cruel mistress when it comes to learning how to fight champions. It's not my preferred place to do so. I have, many a time, had that very same experience.

ItsClobberinTime

Dust

Ercarret said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

Not saying they're bad at all but both Cyclops and Guardian need sig 200 to counter Bullseye, without it they do take a lot of chip damage.

Not necessarily. Since Cyke has easy access to True Focus throughout the fight, you can (relatively) easily push Bullseye to his Sp2 which is significantly easier to avoid without even dexing it and result in much less chip damage.

Edit: I should say, it's much easier to avoid dexing a large part of the Sp2. You still need to dex the last two hits. But that's still a whole lot easier than dexing the Sp1.

MÆX did exactly what you described on this clip
https://youtube.com/shorts/GJwAuuHwReM?si=poBqte_KazV3QwWg
He didn't screw up at all and he still lost about 30% hp from chip damage because AI decided to throw multiple combos into block + didn't even manage to max out the precisions so I disagree there, it's way too unreliable. He can do it but not without losing a lot of health and even at sig 200 he still won't get 20% of that lost hp back because of adrenaline decay.

NONYABIZZ

Yh, I watched the video and was immediately surprised at how terrible cyclops is for bullseye.
I mean, on paper you'd think he'd be as good as okoye since their evade countering an be activated at the start and don't need to do any work.
My dazzler can do that same fight with only 5% health lost. The chip damage would be from the initial bait and heavy punish to gain your first pursuit after that (if yours is high sig), you will never need to take another blocked hit again. Thank God for that dodge.

I'm terribly surprised at how bad cyclops is for the matches that actually matter. Ohh well, maybe he'll be as good as xpool in nuking other classes in Bg.

ItsClobberinTime

Dust

NONYABIZZ said:

Yh, I watched the video and was immediately surprised at how terrible cyclops is for bullseye.
I mean, on paper you'd think he'd be as good as okoye since their evade countering an be activated at the start and don't need to do any work.
My dazzler can do that same fight with only 5% health lost. The chip damage would be from the initial bait and heavy punish to gain your first pursuit after that (if yours is high sig), you will never need to take another blocked hit again. Thank God for that dodge.

I'm terribly surprised at how bad cyclops is for the matches that actually matter. Ohh well, maybe he'll be as good as xpool in nuking other classes in Bg.

Not to mention how terrible he is for defenders with constant thorns like Attuma, even at sig 200 you don't actually get back any of the health that's stored as adrenaline because by the time you're throwing specials it's already decayed quite a bit. I said he's essentially the next Morbius but with better damage, and BRB is waaay better overall, and that's a hill I will die on lol his damage is crazy but other than the true focus what other utility does he have? I mean big specials are fun but not when you can't use him against a lot of the meta defenders even the ones he's supposed to counter.

Bulmkt

Mr Sinister imo is the best counter…

Barath121

negasonic is the best counter she basically stuns him everytime he tries to evade

summerdeer

Cyclops

Kitty I will say over and over