Healing node on new AW map

Question: Does Poison in combination with 3/3 Despair not reverse healing? Tested this in AW and Diablo never gained any charges
Please advise, thanks!

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hungryhungrybbq

At one point I applied 20 Poisons

Average_Desi

Does not work because of the 15% from recovery which Despair cannot touch and poisons reduce the modified regen so it never really touched zero

hungryhungrybbq

Ok, I think I understand.. another answer might be that half of zero is zero?

hungryhungrybbq

Just curious.. it is our last chance to test anything before season so just wanted to check this interaction out while I had a chance

Average_Desi

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention

hungryhungrybbq

Maybe the way it works is that Despair brings it to zero and Poison attempts reduce it to half of zero.. per Poison.. which is still zero

hungryhungrybbq

Ok, I think I understand.. another answer might be that half of zero is zero?

For sure, assuming it's working correctly.. thanks for the reply

Furrymoosen

Ok, I think I understand.. another answer might be that half of zero is zero?
For sure, assuming it's working correctly.. thanks for the reply

Thanking yourself for your own reply or just forget to switch accounts?

Average_Desi

Maybe the way it works is that Despair brings it to zero and Poison attempts reduce it to half of zero.. per Poison.. which is still zero

The base regen rate is 115% due to recovery. Despair brings it to 15% because it caps at a 100% reduction.

The rest 15% is reduced by 30% per poison . BUT.

It works if by reducing 30% of 15%. So you get 10.5% regen at one poison

7.35 regen at 2 poisons and so on.

The gist is this. It became a problem now cause if the super specific node and high health pool meaning even a 1% heal is a lot

hungryhungrybbq

Ok, I think I understand.. another answer might be that half of zero is zero?
For sure, assuming it's working correctly.. thanks for the reply
Thanking yourself for your own reply or just forget to switch accounts?

Haha linked the wrong comment:)

hungryhungrybbq

Maybe the way it works is that Despair brings it to zero and Poison attempts reduce it to half of zero.. per Poison.. which is still zero
The base regen rate is 115% due to recovery. Despair brings it to 15% because it caps at a 100% reduction.

The rest 15% is reduced by 30% per poison . BUT.

It works if by reducing 30% of 15%. So you get 10.5% regen at one poison

7.35 regen at 2 poisons and so on.

The gist is this. It became a problem now cause if the super specific node and high health pool meaning even a 1% heal is a lot

Yeah, exactly.. I tried the 50% reduction per Poison synergy with Juggs.. just to see what it does, but even at 20 Poisons it can never fall below zero.. just become a smaller and smaller fraction

Main issue wasn't the healing, it was the fact that I could not gain charges for damage (meaning I couldn't do the fight in less then 5 minutes)

Yawdriel

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention

so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?

Average_Desi

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?

Pretty much. Heal block works too

JessieS

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention

Between She Hulk, CAIW, Sandman, Joe Fixit and Anti Venok who do you think would have the easiest time getting force charges with petrify on this node ?

Average_Desi

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
Between She Hulk, CAIW, Sandman, Joe Fixit and Anti Venok who do you think would have the easiest time getting force charges with petrify on this node ?

Depends on the defender too.i might go for she hulk since she can increase her damage too

AriSentMe

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too

I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work

World Eater

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too
I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work

I’m in a much much lower AW tier but I used a red skull vs that node and the heal block worked fine for me.

Average_Desi

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too
I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work

Whom were you fighting? There's another thread here with the Sentinel Heal block working

Graves_3

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too
I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work

Who was the defender? I used sentinel and it was a 1.5-2 min fight. His heal block worked great.

captain_rogers

Recovery mastery should be shut down for that node

hungryhungrybbq

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?

Absolutely.. I was just conducting a weird off season test...always follow the nodes in season

Rayven5220

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too
I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work
Who was the defender? I used sentinel and it was a 1.5-2 min fight. His heal block worked great.

That's what I'm wondering because I just took out a r4 fury with my r3 sentinel and the heal block worked about as well as it possibly can.

AriSentMe

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too
I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work
Whom were you fighting? There's another thread here with the Sentinel Heal block working

Lady d

Graves_3

You'll need spectre, Petrify or heal prevention
so TLDR, only bring attackers that have these abilities then?
Pretty much. Heal block works too
I've used Sentinel on that node and healblock didn't work
Whom were you fighting? There's another thread here with the Sentinel Heal block working
Lady d

That’s not a sentinel problem. It’s a lady D problem. Heal blocks don’t work on her and her regen rate cannot be modified.