When will it end?

jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 214 ★★
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I've played this game for a while and I;ve always known that the spenders will have the advantage. But recently theyre not just gettting extra rankups, theyre selling the good 6* champs as 7* and to make them valuble they make them exclusive to that so its really hard for f2p players to get them.

It was almost impossible for a f2p player to get all 6 glorious gaurdians. You literally had to spend crazy to get red gaurdian. Then in HoF as a f2p player that spend 6k I got only apoc, my least diserd. And now torch is gonna be behind a paywall.

I'm in a top 10 alliance and just becuase I'm f2p I don't have access to Fam, nick, red gaurdian, tigra, torch, Sentinal, dpx, medusa, purgatory, bpcw. (I got sentry and apoc the two worst from their respective pools, Yay). So yeah, I have none of them and I've been playing at the top of the game for past year and a half. It's just bullsh*t. And given the omgea champs havnt been released and its been a full year, I wont have acess to fam, nick and tigra till at least end of 2026. That's utterly insane.

This doesnt even take into account that I match people in battlegrounds with 10 r4s while I have a third of that. I didn't even mention that. The gap is too big. I'm not saying it shouldn't be there, there should aways be a gap in between f2p and spenders thats how the game works. but, its just too big

I know this was a bit of a rant, sorry. Im just pissed

SIncerely,
A very pissed f2p player

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  • jj_jj_9jj_jj_9 Member Posts: 214 ★★
    And dark Phoenix, she is fully locked behind a 40k units paywall, and kabam just might never release her again.
  • MFDOOMbotMFDOOMbot Member Posts: 56 ★
    It's because exclusives sell, even if they're garbage. If those exclusives are actually good, they sell through the roof. The thought process isn't "screw FTP". It's "milk those whales dry". Screwing FTP is just the side effect...
  • BreadnightBreadnight Member Posts: 1 ★
    jj_jj_9 said:

    I've played this game for a while and I;ve always known that the spenders will have the advantage. But recently theyre not just gettting extra rankups, theyre selling the good 6* champs as 7* and to make them valuble they make them exclusive to that so its really hard for f2p players to get them.

    It was almost impossible for a f2p player to get all 6 glorious gaurdians. You literally had to spend crazy to get red gaurdian. Then in HoF as a f2p player that spend 6k I got only apoc, my least diserd. And now torch is gonna be behind a paywall.

    I'm in a top 10 alliance and just becuase I'm f2p I don't have access to Fam, nick, red gaurdian, tigra, torch, Sentinal, dpx, medusa, purgatory, bpcw. (I got sentry and apoc the two worst from their respective pools, Yay). So yeah, I have none of them and I've been playing at the top of the game for past year and a half. It's just bullsh*t. And given the omgea champs havnt been released and its been a full year, I wont have acess to fam, nick and tigra till at least end of 2026. That's utterly insane.

    This doesnt even take into account that I match people in battlegrounds with 10 r4s while I have a third of that. I didn't even mention that. The gap is too big. I'm not saying it shouldn't be there, there should aways be a gap in between f2p and spenders thats how the game works. but, its just too big

    I know this was a bit of a rant, sorry. Im just pissed

    SIncerely,
    A very pissed f2p player

    Ive played the game for a year now, and have developed my account fairly well, but in that same time, I can find accounts that are exponentially larger and it makes the game unfair to those who want to play the game. It's a rich get richer type of thing where, whales spend on the game and in turn can push further in competitive modes, which grants them higher and higher rewards while f2p players get left in the dust at the bottom. There should be a way for f2p players to be able to have a chance at the top. And yes, there's the argument that Kabam needs to make money, but the amount of value locked behind spending real money or spending an absurd amount of time that most people don't have is insane. We had the HoF event locking a high value champ behind hundreds of dollars, next we have HT for the same amount, it makes the game really unfair for players who don't have the money to spend on a game.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 4,003 ★★★★★
    It all depends on what the champs on sale are to me tbh

    Torch is great and I know lots of people have been wanting him but the science 7* class is stacked to the heavens already (especially with Spider Woman also entering the Titan soon) and I don’t think he’ll be some sorta game changer

    I think having the Eidols behind a paywall is silly, I know they’ll be coming later but I’d love to be able to do the chase F2P. We had a few opportunities for the glorious guardians thankfully even F2P so that wasn’t an issue but I do wish they brought the omega days champs back (just for longshot but tbh other than him they weren’t meta relevant at all).
  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,613 ★★★★★
    Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,702 ★★★★★
    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,919 ★★★★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    it wasn’t a choice it was a rng box

  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 117 ★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    While that’s true, it was only possible if you didn’t spend all your units on last year’s banquet. If you did, the max you could grind before May was like 30k. And that’s if you didn’t spend any between January to April, because you would only know about HoF in April.

    It would have been nice if Kabam gave further advance notice that an event like this would happen. I could only grind 12k in the time between announcement and event, and I got nothing but sig 40 Apoc for it (also my least desired).
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,702 ★★★★★
    edited May 30
    Gamer said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    it wasn’t a choice it was a rng box

    Yes at banquet but then they gave everyone the Guardian selector for free during the RedGuardian event (unless people chose to use the points on other goodies).
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 8,933 ★★★★★
    Anything related strictly to units its F2P friendly. They got more events now and more units available to grab. Just gotta make your choice on which one you want to focus. 4/7 and CM are cash events.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,702 ★★★★★
    MrSanguini said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    While that’s true, it was only possible if you didn’t spend all your units on last year’s banquet. If you did, the max you could grind before May was like 30k. And that’s if you didn’t spend any between January to April, because you would only know about HoF in April.

    It would have been nice if Kabam gave further advance notice that an event like this would happen. I could only grind 12k in the time between announcement and event, and I got nothing but sig 40 Apoc for it (also my least desired).
    I think as a F2P you have to grind all the time no matter what.
    And then choose which couple of events a year you decide to go all in on.
    But OP was saying they didn't get anything good at banquet, didn't get anything good at HOF, etc.
    That only makes sense if you don't grind and save units for these events.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 798 ★★★
    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    Red guardian was only 400 usd thats not a rediculous pay wall nefaria was like 600
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,765 ★★★★★
    Abspain101 said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    Red guardian was only 400 usd thats not a rediculous pay wall nefaria was like 600
    That’s a different situation . Red Guardian is an exclusive champion (not available anywhere else), while Count Nefaria was essentially “pay $600 for 3 months early access". Yes, the Count costs more, but is not a paywalled champion.


    But to OP’s point - I agree. Each individual decision seems reasonable. "Sure, Saga chase champions seems like a fun idea that rewards playing the game. Oh sure, these 6 champions seem like desirable Omega choices. Oh, look at these 6 Banquet champions. Oh, look at these 6 other Banquet champions. Hm, Eidol behind a paywall since no one cares about these champions anyways. Uh.... new Omega type champions that some people will get and some will not when last year's Omega champions aren't yet available? What.... spend 36k+ units for Dark Phoenix!.... oh look, Human Torch...."

    Looking at all the decisions as a whole makes it so there is too much exclusivity going on. There is definitely a slide towards make exclusivity the norm as opposed to something special. I acknowledge that Kabam needs some way to make money, but the exclusivity button is being spammed.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,389 ★★★★★
    i totally get OP's point and frustration, but one thing us scrubs can never buy is skill and you have that. i hope that you'll still land in the top BG leaderboards as proof that skill matters the most.
  • Ironside47Ironside47 Member Posts: 552 ★★★
    You think this is bad, wait until Hercules and Doom hit 7*
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 798 ★★★
    altavista said:

    Abspain101 said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    Red guardian was only 400 usd thats not a rediculous pay wall nefaria was like 600
    That’s a different situation . Red Guardian is an exclusive champion (not available anywhere else), while Count Nefaria was essentially “pay $600 for 3 months early access". Yes, the Count costs more, but is not a paywalled champion.


    But to OP’s point - I agree. Each individual decision seems reasonable. "Sure, Saga chase champions seems like a fun idea that rewards playing the game. Oh sure, these 6 champions seem like desirable Omega choices. Oh, look at these 6 Banquet champions. Oh, look at these 6 other Banquet champions. Hm, Eidol behind a paywall since no one cares about these champions anyways. Uh.... new Omega type champions that some people will get and some will not when last year's Omega champions aren't yet available? What.... spend 36k+ units for Dark Phoenix!.... oh look, Human Torch...."

    Looking at all the decisions as a whole makes it so there is too much exclusivity going on. There is definitely a slide towards make exclusivity the norm as opposed to something special. I acknowledge that Kabam needs some way to make money, but the exclusivity button is being spammed.
    I get that now 3 month early lease as opposed to 400 bucks or you may never get him again
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,829 ★★★★
    That's how Kabam keeps the game going

    If not mcoc will go the way of Transformers and Mirrorverse
  • KRACETOSKRACETOS Member Posts: 98 ★
    jj_jj_9 said:

    I've played this game for a while and I;ve always known that the spenders will have the advantage. But recently theyre not just gettting extra rankups, theyre selling the good 6* champs as 7* and to make them valuble they make them exclusive to that so its really hard for f2p players to get them.

    It was almost impossible for a f2p player to get all 6 glorious gaurdians. You literally had to spend crazy to get red gaurdian. Then in HoF as a f2p player that spend 6k I got only apoc, my least diserd. And now torch is gonna be behind a paywall.

    I'm in a top 10 alliance and just becuase I'm f2p I don't have access to Fam, nick, red gaurdian, tigra, torch, Sentinal, dpx, medusa, purgatory, bpcw. (I got sentry and apoc the two worst from their respective pools, Yay). So yeah, I have none of them and I've been playing at the top of the game for past year and a half. It's just bullsh*t. And given the omgea champs havnt been released and its been a full year, I wont have acess to fam, nick and tigra till at least end of 2026. That's utterly insane.

    This doesnt even take into account that I match people in battlegrounds with 10 r4s while I have a third of that. I didn't even mention that. The gap is too big. I'm not saying it shouldn't be there, there should aways be a gap in between f2p and spenders thats how the game works. but, its just too big

    I know this was a bit of a rant, sorry. Im just pissed

    SIncerely,
    A very pissed f2p player

    If it makes you feel any better, I have everybsingle one of the champs you listed and I just about never used any of them. They just sit and collect dust for the most part. They aren't making a remarkable difference. Which is why you're f2p and still in a top 10 alliance. Its all about how you use the roster you have, not how big your roster is. Size only matters for collectors.
  • KRACETOSKRACETOS Member Posts: 98 ★
    altavista said:

    Abspain101 said:

    TotemCorruption said:

    Red Guardian was behind a ridiculous paywall, but the HOF champs were accessible to any F2P who grinds units.
    If you don't spend money and you don't grind units like crazy, then you're going to miss out on deals, that shouldn't be surprising.
    Also, everyone got a free Guardian of their choice during HOF, so not sure why you picked Sentry if you think he's trash.

    Red guardian was only 400 usd thats not a rediculous pay wall nefaria was like 600
    That’s a different situation . Red Guardian is an exclusive champion (not available anywhere else), while Count Nefaria was essentially “pay $600 for 3 months early access". Yes, the Count costs more, but is not a paywalled champion.


    But to OP’s point - I agree. Each individual decision seems reasonable. "Sure, Saga chase champions seems like a fun idea that rewards playing the game. Oh sure, these 6 champions seem like desirable Omega choices. Oh, look at these 6 Banquet champions. Oh, look at these 6 other Banquet champions. Hm, Eidol behind a paywall since no one cares about these champions anyways. Uh.... new Omega type champions that some people will get and some will not when last year's Omega champions aren't yet available? What.... spend 36k+ units for Dark Phoenix!.... oh look, Human Torch...."

    Looking at all the decisions as a whole makes it so there is too much exclusivity going on. There is definitely a slide towards make exclusivity the norm as opposed to something special. I acknowledge that Kabam needs some way to make money, but the exclusivity button is being spammed.
    Well said. Only solution is to ust get them all then you don't have to worry.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,389 ★★★★★
    OP, you're a celestial player too, right?
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 971 ★★★★
    Seeing HT behind this red guardian type sale confirmed my suspicions.
    Kabam will continue to take advantage of the playerbases desire for the OP 6stars and release them one by one with some for of payment involved.
    I mean, you can't really be mad that a company makes great decisions to pull in money (that's what the game runs on afterall).

    Its just sad that that's what they've decided to do. There was no reason for HOF not being a gatcha box other than the fact that they wouldn't have capitalized on the RNG aspect of the game which eventually led to dark phoenix costing as much as she did.
    Red guardian PAYWALLED (I don't think he's that great but a large bit of the community thinks so, so he counts)
    HT Paywalled
    I don't care about redguardian or HT personally but I did care about tigra.

    I do not think kabam will be releasing the great 6star champions regularly unless they decide to be generous and drop a huge bomb as the next idols replacement.
    They released galan (who alot of the community thinks is still a top Guy) so there's that. Kabam W!!!

    For now, enjoy your red hulks and spidey supreme level of 6stars getting released as titan pool 7stars.
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