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Nightmare Raids tactician

DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,521 ★★★★
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With rhintra as one of the fights what options do tactician have. Are there any options that don't gain buff?

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  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 540 ★★★
    I saw in the map that sassy's rage damage reduction is decreased by 100% and the same with rintrah's crit resist. So I wouldn't be surprised if there are even more nerfs to make the fights reasonable.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,890 ★★★★★
    The question is, will they work without any unintended interactions?
  • Yukzii_IIYukzii_II Member Posts: 260 ★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    The question is, will they work without any unintended interactions?

    have they ever…?
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,616 ★★★★★
    edited June 3
    Cat_Murdock said:

    There will be a change to Rintrah’s Neutralize so it won’t box out most of the Tactician pool. I don’t have more details and they will clarify this more soon, but I have been told that much

    Hopefully it's not like that first week in the last nightmare raids edition where korg's thorns was supposed to be removed/nerfed but wasn't...
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,472 ★★★★★
    Also why enchantess is both in tactician and vanguard pool is this intentional?
  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 540 ★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Also why enchantess is both in tactician and vanguard pool is this intentional?

    My guess is yes. Pretty sure sentinel was also 2 roles last pool
  • TheMostHated1TheMostHated1 Member Posts: 133 ★
    Squidopus said:

    Cat_Murdock said:

    There will be a change to Rintrah’s Neutralize so it won’t box out most of the Tactician pool. I don’t have more details and they will clarify this more soon, but I have been told that much

    Appreciate the insight Cat, although this really feels like something that they should’ve included in the raids post itself (and if it’s not there because they’re still ironing out details, they should probably work on not having to do that a week before the relevant content drops).

    Don’t suppose you’ve heard anything about Rintrah and Sasquatch’s Armor break counters also being nerfed? A number of raid champs are also quite reliant on Armor break, and more importantly there’s an entire role boost (Null Break) that only works if you can inflict Armor break debuffs that would theoretically brick entirely against Sasquatch being Armor break immune.
    Yeah, the cosmic class is cooked if their armor break immunity remains the same
  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 540 ★★★
    Squidopus said:

    Cat_Murdock said:

    There will be a change to Rintrah’s Neutralize so it won’t box out most of the Tactician pool. I don’t have more details and they will clarify this more soon, but I have been told that much

    Appreciate the insight Cat, although this really feels like something that they should’ve included in the raids post itself (and if it’s not there because they’re still ironing out details, they should probably work on not having to do that a week before the relevant content drops).

    Don’t suppose you’ve heard anything about Rintrah and Sasquatch’s Armor break counters also being nerfed? A number of raid champs are also quite reliant on Armor break, and more importantly there’s an entire role boost (Null Break) that only works if you can inflict Armor break debuffs that would theoretically brick entirely against Sasquatch being Armor break immune.
    Its not just Null Break, its also Shield Smasher that requires armor breaks too. So that's 2 whole boosts made completely useless
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,675 ★★★★★
    Herbal_Taxman said:

    Graves_3 said:

    The question is, will they work without any unintended interactions?

    The answer is, don’t join raids in the first 24 hours.
    You have to though, how are you gonna get the sweet compensation otherwise.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,617 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    Herbal_Taxman said:

    Graves_3 said:

    The question is, will they work without any unintended interactions?

    The answer is, don’t join raids in the first 24 hours.
    You have to though, how are you gonna get the sweet compensation otherwise.

    Very true. It’s the eternal question of MCOC.
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 1,036 ★★★★★
    NoahSansman said:

    Squidopus said:

    Cat_Murdock said:

    There will be a change to Rintrah’s Neutralize so it won’t box out most of the Tactician pool. I don’t have more details and they will clarify this more soon, but I have been told that much

    Appreciate the insight Cat, although this really feels like something that they should’ve included in the raids post itself (and if it’s not there because they’re still ironing out details, they should probably work on not having to do that a week before the relevant content drops).

    Don’t suppose you’ve heard anything about Rintrah and Sasquatch’s Armor break counters also being nerfed? A number of raid champs are also quite reliant on Armor break, and more importantly there’s an entire role boost (Null Break) that only works if you can inflict Armor break debuffs that would theoretically brick entirely against Sasquatch being Armor break immune.
    Its not just Null Break, its also Shield Smasher that requires armor breaks too. So that's 2 whole boosts made completely useless
    Knew I was missing something, I don’t usually take Vanguard so it slipped my mind. Hopefully the team has plans to do something about this, if Apoc’s stun into block was removed because it made certain role boosts too difficult to utilize, then surely a boss having an ability that straight-up makes two role boosts entirely unusable warrants action.
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