What are your thoughts on Spiral?

NerfSerpentPlsTY

Spiral might as well be my favorite champion in the entire game gameplay-wise. I love that she introduces a brand new action like swiping up (I don't count enchantress, punk etc since they are special mini-games). I love her animations, gameplay loop and basically everything. She is the only champion I bought a pre-release bundle for though I felt underwhelmed by her as a 6*. Now that I just got her from a titan a few days ago, with the crit stat focus and 3 points in mystic dispersion she feels so much better (working on getting it to 5). I'm thinking of even r4'ing her after wheel of fate but I have a few concerns.

First off, despite having unique utility, she only targets a few specific matchups like serpent and dark phoenix. I can't think of any other meta defender she works well against and can't see a reason to draft her if these 2 don't get drafted by the opponent. Her utility isn't relevant for most content/defenders and falter immunity is just so much worse than bypassing miss altogether. I don't have the slighest idea why she gains about 13 physical and energy resistance per fervor either, it adds up to a less than %10 resistance to both I believe. Probably the most pointless ability ever in any champions kit, it might as well just not exist.

My main concern is about her general use and gameplay loop though. How would she do if you had to perform specific actions throughout the fight? If you couldn't hit the opponent for a while, if you had to use a heavy attack every now and then, if you had to do light combo enders etc. Without experience in much content I feel like complex node sets would hinder her a lot and make her often unpreferrable. Is she really just a serpent/dark phoenix counter and nothing else? How could I make use of her? I don't see many scenarios where I'd pick her over everyone else. I use Kushala almost everywhere for example, she is just always useful and has insane utility to counter all kinds of things. Spiral's unique utility seems limited to just a few champions but I want to be able to use her as much as I can.

What are your thoughts on her overall? Am I mistaken and can she work for much more than I expect her to? Where does she excel at?

EdisonLaw

NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

Spiral might as well be my favorite champion in the entire game gameplay-wise. I love that she introduces a brand new action like swiping up (I don't count enchantress, punk etc since they are special mini-games). I love her animations, gameplay loop and basically everything. She is the only champion I bought a pre-release bundle for though I felt underwhelmed by her as a 6*. Now that I just got her from a titan a few days ago, with the crit stat focus and 3 points in mystic dispersion she feels so much better (working on getting it to 5). I'm thinking of even r4'ing her after wheel of fate but I have a few concerns.

First off, despite having unique utility, she only targets a few specific matchups like serpent and dark phoenix. I can't think of any other meta defender she works well against and can't see a reason to draft her if these 2 don't get drafted by the opponent. Her utility isn't relevant for most content/defenders and falter immunity is just so much worse than bypassing miss altogether. I don't have the slighest idea why she gains about 13 physical and energy resistance per fervor either, it adds up to a less than %10 resistance to both I believe. Probably the most pointless ability ever in any champions kit, it might as well just not exist.

My main concern is about her general use and gameplay loop though. How would she do if you had to perform specific actions throughout the fight? If you couldn't hit the opponent for a while, if you had to use a heavy attack every now and then, if you had to do light combo enders etc. Without experience in much content I feel like complex node sets would hinder her a lot and make her often unpreferrable. Is she really just a serpent/dark phoenix counter and nothing else? How could I make use of her? I don't see many scenarios where I'd pick her over everyone else. I use Kushala almost everywhere for example, she is just always useful and has insane utility to counter all kinds of things. Spiral's unique utility seems limited to just a few champions but I want to be able to use her as much as I can.

What are your thoughts on her overall? Am I mistaken and can she work for much more than I expect her to? Where does she excel at?

She's great, just don't take anyone who can shrug debuffs (especially stun), have evade, unstoppable, otherwise, she is usable against nearly anyone

Chuck_Finley

EdisonLaw said:

NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

Spiral might as well be my favorite champion in the entire game gameplay-wise. I love that she introduces a brand new action like swiping up (I don't count enchantress, punk etc since they are special mini-games). I love her animations, gameplay loop and basically everything. She is the only champion I bought a pre-release bundle for though I felt underwhelmed by her as a 6*. Now that I just got her from a titan a few days ago, with the crit stat focus and 3 points in mystic dispersion she feels so much better (working on getting it to 5). I'm thinking of even r4'ing her after wheel of fate but I have a few concerns.

First off, despite having unique utility, she only targets a few specific matchups like serpent and dark phoenix. I can't think of any other meta defender she works well against and can't see a reason to draft her if these 2 don't get drafted by the opponent. Her utility isn't relevant for most content/defenders and falter immunity is just so much worse than bypassing miss altogether. I don't have the slighest idea why she gains about 13 physical and energy resistance per fervor either, it adds up to a less than %10 resistance to both I believe. Probably the most pointless ability ever in any champions kit, it might as well just not exist.

My main concern is about her general use and gameplay loop though. How would she do if you had to perform specific actions throughout the fight? If you couldn't hit the opponent for a while, if you had to use a heavy attack every now and then, if you had to do light combo enders etc. Without experience in much content I feel like complex node sets would hinder her a lot and make her often unpreferrable. Is she really just a serpent/dark phoenix counter and nothing else? How could I make use of her? I don't see many scenarios where I'd pick her over everyone else. I use Kushala almost everywhere for example, she is just always useful and has insane utility to counter all kinds of things. Spiral's unique utility seems limited to just a few champions but I want to be able to use her as much as I can.

What are your thoughts on her overall? Am I mistaken and can she work for much more than I expect her to? Where does she excel at?

She's great, just don't take anyone who can shrug debuffs (especially stun), have evade, unstoppable, otherwise, she is usable against nearly anyone

I got her recently - thought about taking her up but …. This BG meta seems particularly anti-Spiral. Not really enthused about ranking her up for a spot on the bench for a month.

TheUglyone123

Her gameplay is unique and fun, without a doubt and she can do very well inside certain matchups. However, I find her clunky and difficult to play outside of her optimal matchups, which sucks. She was designed with serpent in mind, but I feel much more comfortable using America Chavez, kushala, or hell even dazzler against serpent. So she will probably not be getting past R2 for me for a while

WednesdayLength

EdisonLaw said:

NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

Spiral might as well be my favorite champion in the entire game gameplay-wise. I love that she introduces a brand new action like swiping up (I don't count enchantress, punk etc since they are special mini-games). I love her animations, gameplay loop and basically everything. She is the only champion I bought a pre-release bundle for though I felt underwhelmed by her as a 6*. Now that I just got her from a titan a few days ago, with the crit stat focus and 3 points in mystic dispersion she feels so much better (working on getting it to 5). I'm thinking of even r4'ing her after wheel of fate but I have a few concerns.

First off, despite having unique utility, she only targets a few specific matchups like serpent and dark phoenix. I can't think of any other meta defender she works well against and can't see a reason to draft her if these 2 don't get drafted by the opponent. Her utility isn't relevant for most content/defenders and falter immunity is just so much worse than bypassing miss altogether. I don't have the slighest idea why she gains about 13 physical and energy resistance per fervor either, it adds up to a less than %10 resistance to both I believe. Probably the most pointless ability ever in any champions kit, it might as well just not exist.

My main concern is about her general use and gameplay loop though. How would she do if you had to perform specific actions throughout the fight? If you couldn't hit the opponent for a while, if you had to use a heavy attack every now and then, if you had to do light combo enders etc. Without experience in much content I feel like complex node sets would hinder her a lot and make her often unpreferrable. Is she really just a serpent/dark phoenix counter and nothing else? How could I make use of her? I don't see many scenarios where I'd pick her over everyone else. I use Kushala almost everywhere for example, she is just always useful and has insane utility to counter all kinds of things. Spiral's unique utility seems limited to just a few champions but I want to be able to use her as much as I can.

What are your thoughts on her overall? Am I mistaken and can she work for much more than I expect her to? Where does she excel at?

She's great, just don't take anyone who can shrug debuffs (especially stun), have evade, unstoppable, otherwise, she is usable against nearly anyone

You talk like chat gpt sometimes

xenchief

I find her overly clunky to use. I mean she's fine but there are options I like better even in the narrow band of fights she was designed for.

Sceptilemaniac2

SHE IS GREAT
SHE IS VERY VERSATILE
SHE LOOKS SO COOL
I LOVE SPIRAL
SHE'S JUST SO VERY GOOD

Ragnaruk5178

Alright in my opinion

captain_rogers

Guys I think NerfSerpentPlsTY might love spiral, and after careful research I think he may want serpent to get nerfed, Although I need to more research I'm not sure this is just a theory.

EdisonLaw

WednesdayLength said:

EdisonLaw said:

NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

Spiral might as well be my favorite champion in the entire game gameplay-wise. I love that she introduces a brand new action like swiping up (I don't count enchantress, punk etc since they are special mini-games). I love her animations, gameplay loop and basically everything. She is the only champion I bought a pre-release bundle for though I felt underwhelmed by her as a 6*. Now that I just got her from a titan a few days ago, with the crit stat focus and 3 points in mystic dispersion she feels so much better (working on getting it to 5). I'm thinking of even r4'ing her after wheel of fate but I have a few concerns.

First off, despite having unique utility, she only targets a few specific matchups like serpent and dark phoenix. I can't think of any other meta defender she works well against and can't see a reason to draft her if these 2 don't get drafted by the opponent. Her utility isn't relevant for most content/defenders and falter immunity is just so much worse than bypassing miss altogether. I don't have the slighest idea why she gains about 13 physical and energy resistance per fervor either, it adds up to a less than %10 resistance to both I believe. Probably the most pointless ability ever in any champions kit, it might as well just not exist.

My main concern is about her general use and gameplay loop though. How would she do if you had to perform specific actions throughout the fight? If you couldn't hit the opponent for a while, if you had to use a heavy attack every now and then, if you had to do light combo enders etc. Without experience in much content I feel like complex node sets would hinder her a lot and make her often unpreferrable. Is she really just a serpent/dark phoenix counter and nothing else? How could I make use of her? I don't see many scenarios where I'd pick her over everyone else. I use Kushala almost everywhere for example, she is just always useful and has insane utility to counter all kinds of things. Spiral's unique utility seems limited to just a few champions but I want to be able to use her as much as I can.

What are your thoughts on her overall? Am I mistaken and can she work for much more than I expect her to? Where does she excel at?

She's great, just don't take anyone who can shrug debuffs (especially stun), have evade, unstoppable, otherwise, she is usable against nearly anyone

You talk like chat gpt sometimes

Everyone has a bit of code in them don’t they? AI is the next step in evolution

captain_rogers

EdisonLaw said:

WednesdayLength said:

EdisonLaw said:

NerfSerpentPlsTY said:

Spiral might as well be my favorite champion in the entire game gameplay-wise. I love that she introduces a brand new action like swiping up (I don't count enchantress, punk etc since they are special mini-games). I love her animations, gameplay loop and basically everything. She is the only champion I bought a pre-release bundle for though I felt underwhelmed by her as a 6*. Now that I just got her from a titan a few days ago, with the crit stat focus and 3 points in mystic dispersion she feels so much better (working on getting it to 5). I'm thinking of even r4'ing her after wheel of fate but I have a few concerns.

First off, despite having unique utility, she only targets a few specific matchups like serpent and dark phoenix. I can't think of any other meta defender she works well against and can't see a reason to draft her if these 2 don't get drafted by the opponent. Her utility isn't relevant for most content/defenders and falter immunity is just so much worse than bypassing miss altogether. I don't have the slighest idea why she gains about 13 physical and energy resistance per fervor either, it adds up to a less than %10 resistance to both I believe. Probably the most pointless ability ever in any champions kit, it might as well just not exist.

My main concern is about her general use and gameplay loop though. How would she do if you had to perform specific actions throughout the fight? If you couldn't hit the opponent for a while, if you had to use a heavy attack every now and then, if you had to do light combo enders etc. Without experience in much content I feel like complex node sets would hinder her a lot and make her often unpreferrable. Is she really just a serpent/dark phoenix counter and nothing else? How could I make use of her? I don't see many scenarios where I'd pick her over everyone else. I use Kushala almost everywhere for example, she is just always useful and has insane utility to counter all kinds of things. Spiral's unique utility seems limited to just a few champions but I want to be able to use her as much as I can.

What are your thoughts on her overall? Am I mistaken and can she work for much more than I expect her to? Where does she excel at?

She's great, just don't take anyone who can shrug debuffs (especially stun), have evade, unstoppable, otherwise, she is usable against nearly anyone

You talk like chat gpt sometimes

Everyone has a bit of code in them don’t they? AI is the next step in evolution

You really do sound like chatgpt lol.

NerfSerpentPlsTY

captain_rogers said:

Guys I think NerfSerpentPlsTY might love spiral, and after careful research I think he may want serpent to get nerfed, Although I need to more research I'm not sure this is just a theory.

I wonder at what point I gave it away...