Some clarification on the recent ban wave

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  • MalefixMalefix Member Posts: 9 ★
    I think they will realize that they made a big mistake, I don't think those who are in good faith should be afraid. However, when they unblock me I will make sure that they give me exhaustive information to understand where I went wrong in their opinion. I had started playing again after two years because my son had made me want to play again and I was making progress. If they continue to ban me... well, they are not there, I will look for something else.
  • Mixtapevol02Mixtapevol02 Member Posts: 174 ★★
    ottogiugno said:

    What worries me the most is that once the 7-day ban ends, I might get permanently banned due to a mistake in their system.
    I've never used mods and have always downloaded and updated the game from the Play Store.
    A 10-year user with two profiles... What an inglorious end!

    I’m guessing that the 10k banned probably cheated at some stage of their account with 3rd party software they have installed. The 2k + people probably r using similar flagged 3rd party software but haven’t committed any cheating yet, but because the have downloaded the game from similar source their accounts are vulnerable to it. Hence they issued a 7 day suspension to them, so that they can re-download the game from an official trusted site.

    So if you don’t try and download the trusted version and login to your account, then you might get permanently banned.
  • SonikGoldSonikGold Member Posts: 46 ★
    Mixtapevol02 said:

    ottogiugno said:

    What worries me the most is that once the 7-day ban ends, I might get permanently banned due to a mistake in their system.
    I've never used mods and have always downloaded and updated the game from the Play Store.
    A 10-year user with two profiles... What an inglorious end!

    I’m guessing that the 10k banned probably cheated at some stage of their account with 3rd party software they have installed. The 2k + people probably r using similar flagged 3rd party software but haven’t committed any cheating yet, but because the have downloaded the game from similar source their accounts are vulnerable to it. Hence they issued a 7 day suspension to them, so that they can re-download the game from an official trusted site.

    So if you don’t try and download the trusted version and login to your account, then you might get permanently banned.
    Your guess is wrong. I've never installed anything related to Kabam or mcoc from anywhere except the official Play or Apple store.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,620 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    Kwizatzhaderach77 said:

    After reviewing the Litany of Snide comments by Smart Asses unaffected by this COLOSSAL Fut-Nuckery unleashed on the MCOC Community by Kabam, I want to provide a Simple Breakdown of how inconceivable easy it is to explain how Big this ScrewUp is...

    I live in Canada (so no Foreign nation restrictions apply)...

    I have ONLY used Samsung Phones for the 9 years of playing and ONLY used the Google Play Store installed on those 5 phones...

    I have NEVER used Mods and have never even looked for any Game Altering or Enhancing programs or Apps (why bother when I'm intelligent enough to know these would Violate TOS parameters)...

    I just looked up on Google Play under "Game Boosters" for the 1st time to see if I had somehow mistakenly installed something over the course of 9 years...



    Seeing these I now know with 100% certainty, I've NEVER downloaded a Game Modifier that could Violate TOS standards!

    And just cuz I was there I took screenshots of Historical Records of My History as found on that same Canadian Standard Google Play Purchase History Records (I believe these would conform to my Fellow Canadians at Kabam and their many requests for "1st purchase" Records that I have answered for Years!!!)...

    And furthermore... a screenshot of my Google Gaming Achievements History (a nonsensical Google Gimmick of no importance... til Now!), just to show longevity of Play.





    So... if Downloading on the Samsung-installed Google Play Store EXCLUSIVELY and intentionally avoiding any Game Modifying Apps, all while living in Canada and using standard Canadian Internet & WiFi (again... No Foreign Nation Restrictions or Hurdles apply in My case!!!)... still leads to My Account getting Banned for 7 Days...

    Then the Problem lies Entirely on Kabam's Execution, Timing and Thinking... with this uniquely Colossal Fut-Nuckery!!!

    And thus, the Slightly Cruel wording of this particular threads' Poll... duly-earned by Kabam's ... (sigh...) Stoopidity!

    One. Last. Thing.
    I address the spectacular Cruelty I've witnessed for the last 3 days here in MCOC Forums, by Folks unaffected by this Ban... I've lost count of the number of times I've seen replies like "You got what You deserved!", "You know you are a Cheater!", or "HaHa... You are a Loser & now You are Banned!"...

    The Jaw-dropping lack of Empathy and Respect is appalling and those Cunning Stunts feeling all "High & Mighty" at the Suffering inflicted by this... Event...

    ... makes my Blood Boil!

    And furthermore, makes me despise a shockingly large portion of the A-holes playing this Game... what I thought was representative of maybe 1% of this Community... may very well be 10% or more!

    And those pathetic wretches should Pray THEY NEVER MEET ME IN REAL LIFE... cuz I would Proudly "Slitch-Bap"... Every. One. Of. You. Cunning. STUNTS! SMFH!

    I often finish my Posts with Stan Lee's "Excelsior" salute... and Sadly, I realize this Salute... is wasted and meaningless... to Far Too Many Skeezoids frequenting Kabam's MCOC Forum.

    Stan Lee would be ashamed to be associated with You!

    I know I, a Life Long 'True Believer', certainly am ashamed of Your Vile and Bile!

    NUFF SAID!

    Dude no one would be scared of someone who says "Nuff said"…..
    What about cunning stunts tho?
  • ZilliaxerZilliaxer Member Posts: 106 ★
    HungaryHippo said:

    ShodaiHighkage said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    LoveScarlet said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    LoveScarlet said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    LoveScarlet said:

    Chinese players don't have access to Google Play at all, why 90% of them can still play on Android but 10% got banned?
    If this is illegitimate, why Kabam even allow Chinese players to login from Android device?
    The system is simply faulty.


    They have access to Apple, which is allowed to the best of my knowledge.
    So you are saying Kabam should ban all Android players in China? I don't think Kabam want to do that IMO
    I'm not telling Kabam to do anything. What I'm saying is, from a logistic standpoint, anyone who doesn't use the approved methods of installation and game play is violating ToS and is subject to action. Legally, that's just how it is.
    So you agree Kabam can't afford to do this, if Kabam can't do it (li
    GroundedWisdom said:

    I care about the game, and I sympathize with the people affected. What I won't do is abandon logic.

    You want logic? Everyone knows that more cheaters showed up after PC version was release, then Kabam decided to ban Android players, tell me where is the logic.


    They literally explained it. Since they have new methods of detection, they've been able to detect more.
    Also, Kabam didn't decide to ban Android Players. China decided to ban Google Play, 15 years ago. Any other methods aren't supported, likely for a number of reasons. The first and most obvious is the game isn't designed to be optimized through those ways. Secondly, they've had a long-standing partnership with Google.
    If Chinese Players have an issue with Android being prohibited, they need to take it up with their local government. Not Kabam.
    Nah. This is on kabam in regards to not providing a demographic an official alternative.

    I fully understand the logic of not allowing unofficial mcoc APK installs. So, why not allow for the APK to be downloaded directly from MCOC's website the same way the launcher for PC is available despite the obvious plans to also release through steam? Provide the Chinese community or any other community that has no say whatsoever in the restrictions their governments impose upon them in regards to access to the play store or other official channels and just offer it directly... Preferably before unilaterally deciding that these people are cheating.
    I agree here. What should have happened was:
    1. A blanket message sent in game to warn people that this was coming.
    2. A legitimate APK to download

    I think this can’t happen because Kabam probably isn’t verifying the checksum of the game on startup. If they aren’t it’s completely unacceptable.
    Agree with both statements
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,307 ★★★★★
    ottogiugno said:

    Mixtapevol02 said:

    So if you don’t try and download the trusted version and login to your account, then you might get permanently banned.

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I have NEVER downloaded or updated the game from any source other than the Google Play Store. I have NEVER used cheats, mods, or any other tricks in the game in 10 years.
    Now, after the seven-day ban, what will I do? I'll download the game again from the Google Play Store (as I have ALWAYS done), but nothing will change compared to when I was playing a week ago.
    And just as I received the ban before, I could receive it again, perhaps permanently.

    Did you get Google Play through another program though?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,441 ★★★★★
    HungaryHippo said:

    ShodaiHighkage said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    LoveScarlet said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    LoveScarlet said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    LoveScarlet said:

    Chinese players don't have access to Google Play at all, why 90% of them can still play on Android but 10% got banned?
    If this is illegitimate, why Kabam even allow Chinese players to login from Android device?
    The system is simply faulty.


    They have access to Apple, which is allowed to the best of my knowledge.
    So you are saying Kabam should ban all Android players in China? I don't think Kabam want to do that IMO
    I'm not telling Kabam to do anything. What I'm saying is, from a logistic standpoint, anyone who doesn't use the approved methods of installation and game play is violating ToS and is subject to action. Legally, that's just how it is.
    So you agree Kabam can't afford to do this, if Kabam can't do it (li
    GroundedWisdom said:

    I care about the game, and I sympathize with the people affected. What I won't do is abandon logic.

    You want logic? Everyone knows that more cheaters showed up after PC version was release, then Kabam decided to ban Android players, tell me where is the logic.


    They literally explained it. Since they have new methods of detection, they've been able to detect more.
    Also, Kabam didn't decide to ban Android Players. China decided to ban Google Play, 15 years ago. Any other methods aren't supported, likely for a number of reasons. The first and most obvious is the game isn't designed to be optimized through those ways. Secondly, they've had a long-standing partnership with Google.
    If Chinese Players have an issue with Android being prohibited, they need to take it up with their local government. Not Kabam.
    Nah. This is on kabam in regards to not providing a demographic an official alternative.

    I fully understand the logic of not allowing unofficial mcoc APK installs. So, why not allow for the APK to be downloaded directly from MCOC's website the same way the launcher for PC is available despite the obvious plans to also release through steam? Provide the Chinese community or any other community that has no say whatsoever in the restrictions their governments impose upon them in regards to access to the play store or other official channels and just offer it directly... Preferably before unilaterally deciding that these people are cheating.
    I agree here. What should have happened was:
    1. A blanket message sent in game to warn people that this was coming.
    2. A legitimate APK to download

    I think this can’t happen because Kabam probably isn’t verifying the checksum of the game on startup. If they aren’t it’s completely unacceptable.
    Isn't a blanket message counterintuitive to catching people?
    Also, the second isn't likely a thing because they release with their partners for a reason.
  • ottogiugnoottogiugno Member Posts: 11 ★
    Furrymoosen said:


    Did you get Google Play through another program though?

    Absolutely not.
  • ZilliaxerZilliaxer Member Posts: 106 ★
    Malefix said:

    I think they will realize that they made a big mistake, I don't think those who are in good faith should be afraid. However, when they unblock me I will make sure that they give me exhaustive information to understand where I went wrong in their opinion. I had started playing again after two years because my son had made me want to play again and I was making progress. If they continue to ban me... well, they are not there, I will look for something else.

    ottogiugno said:

    Mixtapevol02 said:

    So if you don’t try and download the trusted version and login to your account, then you might get permanently banned.

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I have NEVER downloaded or updated the game from any source other than the Google Play Store. I have NEVER used cheats, mods, or any other tricks in the game in 10 years.
    Now, after the seven-day ban, what will I do? I'll download the game again from the Google Play Store (as I have ALWAYS done), but nothing will change compared to when I was playing a week ago.
    And just as I received the ban before, I could receive it again, perhaps permanently.

    You will be eventually banned again due to kabams awful logic
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,620 ★★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    ottogiugno said:

    Mixtapevol02 said:

    So if you don’t try and download the trusted version and login to your account, then you might get permanently banned.

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I have NEVER downloaded or updated the game from any source other than the Google Play Store. I have NEVER used cheats, mods, or any other tricks in the game in 10 years.
    Now, after the seven-day ban, what will I do? I'll download the game again from the Google Play Store (as I have ALWAYS done), but nothing will change compared to when I was playing a week ago.
    And just as I received the ban before, I could receive it again, perhaps permanently.

    Did you get Google Play through another program though?
    Is that the issue for a lot of people? They’re saying Google play was on the phone when they got it - is it actually Google play or another app that connects thru to Google play?
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,307 ★★★★★
    MrSakuragi said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    ottogiugno said:

    Mixtapevol02 said:

    So if you don’t try and download the trusted version and login to your account, then you might get permanently banned.

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I have NEVER downloaded or updated the game from any source other than the Google Play Store. I have NEVER used cheats, mods, or any other tricks in the game in 10 years.
    Now, after the seven-day ban, what will I do? I'll download the game again from the Google Play Store (as I have ALWAYS done), but nothing will change compared to when I was playing a week ago.
    And just as I received the ban before, I could receive it again, perhaps permanently.

    Did you get Google Play through another program though?
    Is that the issue for a lot of people? They’re saying Google play was on the phone when they got it - is it actually Google play or another app that connects thru to Google play?
    Many have said they got Google Play through an APK. Others have said their phone already had it, but there is always the possibility that whoever sold them the phone installed it. Depends on the phone and where they live.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,307 ★★★★★
    Spardga said:

    The developer, although such not handshake creatures can not even give any right to such things, suspended my account in the use of their "Divine Product", which is 11 years old and there are **** bugs and broken **** balance, but not the point, so they suspended me, maybe I used cheats or some scripts, made abuses of the system, but no their "**** incredible anti-cheat system", considered that I downloaded and used an unlicensed and unofficial product, at first I thought maybe it was some kind of mistake, but their "**** good" Tech Support confirmed it and I directly downloaded and used an unlicensed and unofficial product, that I downloaded and used an unlicensed and unofficial product, at first I thought maybe it's some kind of mistake, but their "**** good" Tech Support, confirmed it and I'm **** burned with this news, because I've been using the OFFICIAL PRODUCT of these **** "developers" for 6-7 years and I have **** proof of this, which I sent to this **** "tech support", but after their message, they stopped responding. Anyway, I'm waiting to be unbanned and if I'm not unbanned, I'm waiting for compensation for all those who suffered from such a **** useful anti-chit program from Kabam.
    Kabam, if you don't compensate all those affected people, then you really deserve the title: "Main Assholes, not Developer of the Year".

    Maybe Google translate failed you miserably here (it did), but here's my TLDR of this...

    "I cheated, I downloaded the game through unapproved means, and now I want compensation for getting caught."

    No.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,730 ★★★★
    Wild speculation#4:

    There's an aspect being left out. More companies are mdm-ing/checking for jailbroken environments. You can have a legit app but if it's running on a jailbroken device, maybe someone decides that's a bridge too far now.

    Again, wild speculation.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,920 ★★★★★
    klobberintyme said:

    Wild speculation#4:

    There's an aspect being left out. More companies are mdm-ing/checking for jailbroken environments. You can have a legit app but if it's running on a jailbroken device, maybe someone decides that's a bridge too far now.

    Again, wild speculation.

    It is brand new technology, so perhaps?
  • EakomoEakomo Member Posts: 248 ★★
    klobberintyme said:

    Wild speculation#4:

    There's an aspect being left out. More companies are mdm-ing/checking for jailbroken environments. You can have a legit app but if it's running on a jailbroken device, maybe someone decides that's a bridge too far now.

    Again, wild speculation.

    but then, what you do with the phone is up to you and not a game's company unless you are jailbreaking it to cheat and hack the game.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,730 ★★★★
    Eakomo said:

    klobberintyme said:

    Wild speculation#4:

    There's an aspect being left out. More companies are mdm-ing/checking for jailbroken environments. You can have a legit app but if it's running on a jailbroken device, maybe someone decides that's a bridge too far now.

    Again, wild speculation.

    but then, what you do with the phone is up to you and not a game's company unless you are jailbreaking it to cheat and hack the game.
    Companies can do it now, they look for a specific "tell." And yes, they shouldn't be telling you how to run your own device, but here we are. Again, wild speculation.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 8,932 ★★★★★
    edited June 9
    Eakomo said:

    klobberintyme said:

    Wild speculation#4:

    There's an aspect being left out. More companies are mdm-ing/checking for jailbroken environments. You can have a legit app but if it's running on a jailbroken device, maybe someone decides that's a bridge too far now.

    Again, wild speculation.

    but then, what you do with the phone is up to you and not a game's company unless you are jailbreaking it to cheat and hack the game.
    What I do with my clothes is up to me, but if a restaurant says tie, jacket and shoes (not sneakers) nothing you can do.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,825 ★★★★
    Is this the new AW?

    Players fighting with text in the forums

    I believe Kabam made a major mistake in banning many innocent players
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