Battlegrounds is a mess! I’m 0wins - 17L in a row

Kabam devs! You guys really need to investigate what is going on in Battlegrounds. I am 0 win & 17 loses in a row!

I never have full access to my battle deck. It’s always the same 10 champions (besides the ones that get banned). I’m also getting thrown against whale accounts that have massive rank 4 7*s. I only have 1 rank 4 7*. Seriously wtf is going on? What is the battleground system doing?

This is also not a skill issue. Being put against accounts that have higher rank champs = auto lose & waste of time. Nothing is balanced.

Comments

Yodabolt21

If looks like you are in Vib 5... which means you did get wins to get there. Why are you lying? Also, you're in the same bracket as these accounts, why you should not get matched with them?

MrSakuragi

See a couple forfeits in there. Stick it out!

willrun4adonut

Also, send us screenshots of you repeatedly getting the same ten champs over and over.

Zacharias10719

Kabam devs! You guys really need to investigate what is going on in Battlegrounds. I am 0 win & 17 loses in a row!

I never have full access to my battle deck. It’s always the same 10 champions (besides the ones that get banned). I’m also getting thrown against whale accounts that have massive rank 4 7*s. I only have 1 rank 4 7*. Seriously wtf is going on? What is the battleground system doing?

This is also not a skill issue. Being put against accounts that have higher rank champs = auto lose & waste of time. Nothing is balanced.

The battlegrounds system is pitting you against others in the same tier as you. It doesn't care about your roster or theirs, just what tier you're in. You've made it to vib5. Eventually the bigger accounts will move on and you'll have a better chance of progressing further yourself. Take a day or two off and go again.

It's not meant to be balanced, it's a competition, you have to play what's in front of you.

Chuck_Finley

People are still point farming for some inexplicable reason… might as well just keep spinning your worthless elders marks and hope you match them. I had 4 huge accounts forfeit on me earlier today in diamond

MrSakuragi

People are still point farming for some inexplicable reason… might as well just keep spinning your worthless elders marks and hope you match them. I had 4 huge accounts forfeit on me earlier today in diamond

Probably in alliances with a high minimum required score

FiiNCH

It’s still early in the season. Wait out the next week or so and you should hopefully find things a bit easier.

JESUSCHRIST

Roster and skill issue

Magicsol

The lengths people will go to not admit that they're just trash

Skyfaw

Kabam devs! You guys really need to investigate what is going on in Battlegrounds. I am 0 win & 17 loses in a row!

I never have full access to my battle deck. It’s always the same 10 champions (besides the ones that get banned). I’m also getting thrown against whale accounts that have massive rank 4 7*s. I only have 1 rank 4 7*. Seriously wtf is going on? What is the battleground system doing?

This is also not a skill issue. Being put against accounts that have higher rank champs = auto lose & waste of time. Nothing is balanced.

Go for 0-50 and get a special title. I believe in you!

BringPopcorn

You are not even trying on a bunch, just forfeiting before even completing a round.
They don't need to investigate that most likely you are outmatched in skill and deck power.

CheeseMaster482

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.

summerdeer

Bruh if I am getting wins in vibranium 2 with only ONE RANK 3 you should be getting wins with a rank 4 yea I don’t get wins often but still it’s not 17-0 like u

willrun4adonut

Bruh if I am getting wins in vibranium 2 with only ONE RANK 3 you should be getting wins with a rank 4 yea I don’t get wins often but still it’s not 17-0 like u

And he's not lying. I fought him in vib 2 so I know he's there.

summerdeer

Bruh if I am getting wins in vibranium 2 with only ONE RANK 3 you should be getting wins with a rank 4 yea I don’t get wins often but still it’s not 17-0 like u
And he's not lying. I fought him in vib 2 so I know he's there.

It was a funny and happy interaction for sure 🤣

PT_99

Send your roaster

BringPopcorn

Send your roaster

Cap_Murica

Here's my rooster as well!!

spiderknight616

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.

It's not exactly unfair. If you make it to a tier it is a reasonable expectation that you should be able to compete with other players in that tier regardless of roster. I could barely get past gold when BGs first started, but slowly I built my team and skills to the point where I can reliably make it to GC every season if I put in the time.

Rayven5220

So it's not a skill issue, or being matched against bigger accounts is a waste of time?
Which is it?
You forfeit half the time. You're not even trying, you're just whining about it.
How exactly is that not a skill issue?

CheeseMaster482

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.
It's not exactly unfair. If you make it to a tier it is a reasonable expectation that you should be able to compete with other players in that tier regardless of roster. I could barely get past gold when BGs first started, but slowly I built my team and skills to the point where I can reliably make it to GC every season if I put in the time.

The first time I took bgs seriously I was able to make it all the way to high diamond by just having people leave during the draft phase. I ended up in GC with minimal effort in the end. Bgs is too roster dependent for it to be considered competitive. If kabam wanted to actually make a real competitive mode they would have every champ automatically be at the highest rank like during the Summoner Showdown. Kabam won't do this though since it goes against the whole idea of ranking up champs. Maybe one day they could add a tournament mode though.

Halley

Same here, unfair matches

DNA3000

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.
It's not exactly unfair. If you make it to a tier it is a reasonable expectation that you should be able to compete with other players in that tier regardless of roster. I could barely get past gold when BGs first started, but slowly I built my team and skills to the point where I can reliably make it to GC every season if I put in the time.
The first time I took bgs seriously I was able to make it all the way to high diamond by just having people leave during the draft phase. I ended up in GC with minimal effort in the end. Bgs is too roster dependent for it to be considered competitive. If kabam wanted to actually make a real competitive mode they would have every champ automatically be at the highest rank like during the Summoner Showdown. Kabam won't do this though since it goes against the whole idea of ranking up champs. Maybe one day they could add a tournament mode though.

If Major League Baseball wanted to make a real competitive sport they would implement a salary cap. And if auto racing wanted to be a real competition they’d require everyone to drive identical cars. No one really wants “real” competition.

There’s no “real” competition anywhere in the world, because everything calling itself a competition refuses to prevent competitors from possessing advantages over other competitors.

DNA3000

Kabam devs! You guys really need to investigate what is going on in Battlegrounds. I am 0 win & 17 loses in a row!

I never have full access to my battle deck. It’s always the same 10 champions (besides the ones that get banned). I’m also getting thrown against whale accounts that have massive rank 4 7*s. I only have 1 rank 4 7*. Seriously wtf is going on? What is the battleground system doing?

This is also not a skill issue. Being put against accounts that have higher rank champs = auto lose & waste of time. Nothing is balanced.

The last guy you lost to, King-Cole, has only one R4 in their profile and a prestige of 24247. He could have more than one just with lower prestige but that doesn’t sound like a player with tons of R4s in their deck. The last guy you forfeited against, fpinedo, also has one R4 in his profile but has a prestige of 27971. He’s more likely to have more R4s lurking in his deck but honestly that’s also not indicative of a mega whale deck either. That’s around my prestige and most of the people around my prestige have a small number of R4s.

This season is wonkier than normal due to the defective seeding that shuffled things more than they should. My guess is that should start to sort itself out over the next week. But I don’t see evidence here of wildly unfair match ups. There are wildly mismatched matches going on, I’ve seen them. But this isn’t one of them.

CheeseMaster482

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.
It's not exactly unfair. If you make it to a tier it is a reasonable expectation that you should be able to compete with other players in that tier regardless of roster. I could barely get past gold when BGs first started, but slowly I built my team and skills to the point where I can reliably make it to GC every season if I put in the time.
The first time I took bgs seriously I was able to make it all the way to high diamond by just having people leave during the draft phase. I ended up in GC with minimal effort in the end. Bgs is too roster dependent for it to be considered competitive. If kabam wanted to actually make a real competitive mode they would have every champ automatically be at the highest rank like during the Summoner Showdown. Kabam won't do this though since it goes against the whole idea of ranking up champs. Maybe one day they could add a tournament mode though.
If Major League Baseball wanted to make a real competitive sport they would implement a salary cap. And if auto racing wanted to be a real competition they’d require everyone to drive identical cars. No one really wants “real” competition.

There’s no “real” competition anywhere in the world, because everything calling itself a competition refuses to prevent competitors from possessing advantages over other competitors.

Your comparisons make no sense if you actually understand the difference between a gacha system and natural inequality. If bgs was actually skill based you would see people in the upper ranks with decks of rank 2s and 5s but you don't. In an actual competitive video game you could spend zero money and make it to the top just off of skill. You can call bgs "competitive" all you want but there's a reason why no major gacha Esports exist and why nobody takes them seriously.

DNA3000

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.
It's not exactly unfair. If you make it to a tier it is a reasonable expectation that you should be able to compete with other players in that tier regardless of roster. I could barely get past gold when BGs first started, but slowly I built my team and skills to the point where I can reliably make it to GC every season if I put in the time.
The first time I took bgs seriously I was able to make it all the way to high diamond by just having people leave during the draft phase. I ended up in GC with minimal effort in the end. Bgs is too roster dependent for it to be considered competitive. If kabam wanted to actually make a real competitive mode they would have every champ automatically be at the highest rank like during the Summoner Showdown. Kabam won't do this though since it goes against the whole idea of ranking up champs. Maybe one day they could add a tournament mode though.
If Major League Baseball wanted to make a real competitive sport they would implement a salary cap. And if auto racing wanted to be a real competition they’d require everyone to drive identical cars. No one really wants “real” competition.

There’s no “real” competition anywhere in the world, because everything calling itself a competition refuses to prevent competitors from possessing advantages over other competitors.
Your comparisons make no sense if you actually understand the difference between a gacha system and natural inequality. If bgs was actually skill based you would see people in the upper ranks with decks of rank 2s and 5s but you don't. In an actual competitive video game you could spend zero money and make it to the top just off of skill. You can call bgs "competitive" all you want but there's a reason why no major gacha Esports exist and why nobody takes them seriously.

I understand the situation just fine. You can make up any definitions you want, but the fact is you can’t even spend zero money and make it to the top of professional chess where both sides have literally identical pieces. Without sponsors or rich parents it is literally impossible to become a top classical chess player, for the simple reason it would be impossible to travel to tournaments to compete. Competitive chess also has computer assisted training, access to competitive databases that cost quite a bit of money, and even seconds and other support people that mostly also cost money.

You cannot spend your way to the top, but money provides an enormous advantage, much like in MCOC. And this is Chess we’re talking about, the ultimate “skill oriented” competition. You can’t find me a competition anywhere in the world that more than 1% of the population of Earth has even heard of that fits your apparent definition of what competition is. Which is fine, you can have any definitions you like and apply it in whatever random haphazard way you wish. Just don’t expect anyone else to honor it, or build anything of consequence with it.

And the reason why there’s no gatcha sports is because no one wants to watch it. For that matter, there aren’t many long term successful video game esports of any kind, because the problem is not your own weird definition of fairness, its the simple fact that almost no one wants to spend money to watch people play video games. At least, not enough to support a professional sports league over a sustained period of time. But people still play competitive MTG all the time. Most don’t do it professionally, because as I said no one wants to pay to watch them do it, and everyone has their own house rules on deck construction, but in-person MTG requires people to actually buy cards and use personal decks. Those people seem perfectly happy to treat their activities as real competition.

In fact, MTG is the perfect counter to your assertion that gatcha esports don’t exist because of fairness. If everyone had to play MTG with identical decks instead of constructed decks, that would not make MTG into an esport. It would turn it from mostly unwatchable to completely uninteresting. As a casual competition, you can have any rules you want. But to be a professional sport it is not enough to be fair, it is not even necessary. It must be interesting enough for spectators to pay for. You can watch video games for free on Twitch. But paying to watch people play is a very niche thing. It has nothing to do with gatcha mechanics.

Also, in over forty years of thinking about and discussing game design, you’re the first person in all that time to use the phrase “natural inequality” in that context. Congratulations. I’m not even kidding. And they say there are no new ideas.

Frumpy_geezer

Roster Grounds strikes again. Just keep queuing until you get someone who makes more mistakes than you.
It's not exactly unfair. If you make it to a tier it is a reasonable expectation that you should be able to compete with other players in that tier regardless of roster. I could barely get past gold when BGs first started, but slowly I built my team and skills to the point where I can reliably make it to GC every season if I put in the time.
The first time I took bgs seriously I was able to make it all the way to high diamond by just having people leave during the draft phase. I ended up in GC with minimal effort in the end. Bgs is too roster dependent for it to be considered competitive. If kabam wanted to actually make a real competitive mode they would have every champ automatically be at the highest rank like during the Summoner Showdown. Kabam won't do this though since it goes against the whole idea of ranking up champs. Maybe one day they could add a tournament mode though.
If Major League Baseball wanted to make a real competitive sport they would implement a salary cap. And if auto racing wanted to be a real competition they’d require everyone to drive identical cars. No one really wants “real” competition.

There’s no “real” competition anywhere in the world, because everything calling itself a competition refuses to prevent competitors from possessing advantages over other competitors.

Checkmate... Oh wait, chess. Dang.

psp742

I'm Valiant and don't even have any rank4, I got matched with accounts that have better deck multiple rank3 7* and 3 or more rank4 7* champions.. i just forfeit those and hope next match-up is better.. even with account similar to mine, the rng for whichever champion popping up from my deck can greatly affect my win %.. there were some were my opponent got the better draw and there was little possibility of winning.. other few instances where I got the better draw from my deck.

I just got to Diamond 1.. Vibranium will be tough but going to try anyway.

willrun4adonut

Kabam devs! You guys really need to investigate what is going on in Battlegrounds. I am 0 win & 17 loses in a row!

I never have full access to my battle deck. It’s always the same 10 champions (besides the ones that get banned). I’m also getting thrown against whale accounts that have massive rank 4 7*s. I only have 1 rank 4 7*. Seriously wtf is going on? What is the battleground system doing?

This is also not a skill issue. Being put against accounts that have higher rank champs = auto lose & waste of time. Nothing is balanced.

The last guy you lost to, King-Cole, has only one R4 in their profile and a prestige of 24247. He could have more than one just with lower prestige but that doesn’t sound like a player with tons of R4s in their deck. The last guy you forfeited against, fpinedo, also has one R4 in his profile but has a prestige of 27971. He’s more likely to have more R4s lurking in his deck but honestly that’s also not indicative of a mega whale deck either. That’s around my prestige and most of the people around my prestige have a small number of R4s.

This season is wonkier than normal due to the defective seeding that shuffled things more than they should. My guess is that should start to sort itself out over the next week. But I don’t see evidence here of wildly unfair match ups. There are wildly mismatched matches going on, I’ve seen them. But this isn’t one of them.

Here's the first person I encountered in GC. He had 6r4s in his deck. I even lost a round to him because I was certain I could mess around. My prestige is 30,240. Just keep going. You can do it OP.

Abspain101

Im in v5 the odds were mit in my favor every time i could draft my r4 dp but that how the rng works but i do have a really good win percentage with my r3 sig 120 fam on defense