Ban Sympathy

Kingering_King

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

Toproller89

Just boot every single one of them I say, if they’re banned from the game then what are they doing here they can cry to support

Ercarret

I do think the forum could sometimes benefit from an offical, stickied "So you think you've been wrongfully banned?" post whenever we see these huge ban waves. I sympathize with those who simply used third-party software to play the game without otherwise cheating (been there, done that myself in the past), but it's nonetheless pretty annoying to see the forum flooded with a thousand of those posts.

Ericson23

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

That's because it didn't happen to you. I look forward to that day, otherwise you will never understand.

ahmynuts

Ericson23 said:

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

That's because it didn't happen to you. I look forward to that day, otherwise you will never understand.

Im baffled as to why a child is still allowed to post on here

BringPopcorn

This made me chuckle, come on dude you are tired of reading ban posts and opened a post about ban posts 🤣

Furrymoosen

Ercarret said:

I do think the forum could sometimes benefit from an offical, stickied "So you think you've been wrongfully banned?" post whenever we see these huge ban waves. I sympathize with those who simply used third-party software to play the game without otherwise cheating (been there, done that myself in the past), but it's nonetheless pretty annoying to see the forum flooded with a thousand of those posts.

Unfortunately most of these players have already proven that they can't read, so such a thread probably wouldn't help.

JJ3

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

Aww.. did someone take up valuable space in your therapeutic echo chamber? If it bothers you so much take a break from the forums, the same way people were made to take a break from the game.

BringPopcorn

JJ3 said:

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

Aww.. did someone take up valuable space in your therapeutic echo chamber? If it bothers you so much take a break from the forums, the same way people were made to take a break from the game.

Why would he, its not like you are enjoying your break.

FishSkin

Ericson23 said:

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

That's because it didn't happen to you. I look forward to that day, otherwise you will never understand.

You’re either trying to challenge Kabams stance on breaking ToS, trying to force people to agree with your point of view, or wishing bans on people who fall in line with Kabams stance on breaking ToS.

You’re actually quite a nasty human being…

Emilia90

Can we send all the complaints to the mcoc sub, they’re all stupid enough there already so they’d probably give them all the ban sympathy they want

Jaemon512

Ericson23 said:

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

That's because it didn't happen to you. I look forward to that day, otherwise you will never understand.

There is one, singular, definitive reason for this:

We didn't break the TOS.

Buttehrs

Ericson23 said:

Kingering_King said:

To be honest, there is no more “ban sympathy.” What very very little sympathy we have for players who get banned (and I mean very little,) was gone the second the very first of hundreds of “wrongly banned” posts. At this point I don’t want to go on forums because of how many posts of “I was wrongly banned.” Like, can we please put a stop to this? Consolidate them all to one post? Something? It’s very annoying.

That's because it didn't happen to you. I look forward to that day, otherwise you will never understand.

It's quite comical. You weren't even one of the banned players (supposedly) and yet your trying to white knight for those that were? That's sus behavior.

Kingering_King

BringPopcorn said:

This made me chuckle, come on dude you are tired of reading ban posts and opened a post about ban posts 🤣

Finally @BringPopcorn, someone gets the little joke. I was serious about this post and what I said, but it is certainly ironic too 😂

startropics

aside from them spamming the boards, i do feel bad for them. many of them have probably played the game with modified software (without an actual ingame advantage) for 10 years and this was a surprise to them. i'm on board with kabam's policy, but understand player anger too. this really sucks for these guys.

DNA3000

startropics said:

aside from them spamming the boards, i do feel bad for them. many of them have probably played the game with modified software (without an actual ingame advantage) for 10 years and this was a surprise to them. i'm on board with kabam's policy, but understand player anger too. this really sucks for these guys.

Actual cheaters, those guys can burn. I don't really have that much sympathy for them. People who broke the rules and used unauthorized game clients without fully appreciating that and didn't otherwise cheat? I do have sympathy for them. But the fact of the matter is whether they know it or not, realize it or not, they are facilitating cheating by trying to normalize an environment that makes it extremely difficult if not impossible to detect and ban cheaters. Right now we ban cheaters for doing stupid stuff. Stuff basically impossible for humans to do. But the cheaters are learning. Slowly, but they are. Many have figured out that if they do the impossible they will get caught. So they are starting to do the really difficult but not impossible. It is much harder to figure out if someone is cheating their way to becoming MSD than it is to figure out that someone is cheating their way to breaking the laws of physics.

So long as players run in emulated environments, run unauthorized clients, or even download the clients from unauthorized sources, it will be impossible to find "subtle" cheating, because Kabam cannot trust any data from any of those situations. All of them can be altered by sufficiently savvy cheating. And that doesn't mean every cheater has to grow a brain. It just means one of them has to, and then show everyone else how.

These things must go away. And if someone is relying upon them to play the game but is otherwise playing cleanly, that's unfortunate. I don't wish such players harm. But they simply can't be allowed to do that. And Kabam has been warning players constantly for years not to do this. It isn't like this comes out of nowhere. People just got complacent and thought Kabam would never actually enforce the rules, or never bothered to pay attention to the rules and the warnings. Which by the way means any additional warning would have been completely worthless.

startropics

DNA3000 said:

startropics said:

aside from them spamming the boards, i do feel bad for them. many of them have probably played the game with modified software (without an actual ingame advantage) for 10 years and this was a surprise to them. i'm on board with kabam's policy, but understand player anger too. this really sucks for these guys.

Actual cheaters, those guys can burn. I don't really have that much sympathy for them. People who broke the rules and used unauthorized game clients without fully appreciating that and didn't otherwise cheat? I do have sympathy for them. But the fact of the matter is whether they know it or not, realize it or not, they are facilitating cheating by trying to normalize an environment that makes it extremely difficult if not impossible to detect and ban cheaters. Right now we ban cheaters for doing stupid stuff. Stuff basically impossible for humans to do. But the cheaters are learning. Slowly, but they are. Many have figured out that if they do the impossible they will get caught. So they are starting to do the really difficult but not impossible. It is much harder to figure out if someone is cheating their way to becoming MSD than it is to figure out that someone is cheating their way to breaking the laws of physics.

So long as players run in emulated environments, run unauthorized clients, or even download the clients from unauthorized sources, it will be impossible to find "subtle" cheating, because Kabam cannot trust any data from any of those situations. All of them can be altered by sufficiently savvy cheating. And that doesn't mean every cheater has to grow a brain. It just means one of them has to, and then show everyone else how.

These things must go away. And if someone is relying upon them to play the game but is otherwise playing cleanly, that's unfortunate. I don't wish such players harm. But they simply can't be allowed to do that. And Kabam has been warning players constantly for years not to do this. It isn't like this comes out of nowhere. People just got complacent and thought Kabam would never actually enforce the rules, or never bothered to pay attention to the rules and the warnings. Which by the way means any additional warning would have been completely worthless.

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Trafalgarwar96

Well, someone is getting unbanned