Photon vs lotan

summerdeer

So I have a question photons synergy with Mr negative says she becomes resistant to degen per debuff on opponent so with 5 debuffs so she should be fully resistant I just wanna know does this work against lotan has anyone tried it if lemme know if it works before I go into the fight

summerdeer

The only reason I’m confused is because I tried this team out in life transfer mode and I was still taking degen damage

13579rebel_

Life transfer isn't technically classified as degen. It's actually direct damage but it shares the same symbol

summerdeer

13579rebel_ said:

Life transfer isn't technically classified as degen. It's actually direct damage but it shares the same symbol

So it should work normally during lotan fight and I won’t have to worry about the degen damage from the storm

Vendemiaire

summerdeer said:

So I have a question photons synergy with Mr negative says she becomes resistant to degen per debuff on opponent so with 5 debuffs so she should be fully resistant I just wanna know does this work against lotan has anyone tried it if lemme know if it works before I go into the fight

Take not that the synergy is 'Unique' debuff. So to gain 100%, you need 5 unique debuffs.

Suppression (1st Medium), Energy Vulnerability (3rd Light), Sunder (Heavy), Overload (SP1), Taunt (SP2)

It's easy to actually maintain at least 3 of them, so that's already 60%. It will definitely help against the degen. I brought Mr. Negative for my Photon during this fight, too.

summerdeer

Vendemiaire said:

summerdeer said:

So I have a question photons synergy with Mr negative says she becomes resistant to degen per debuff on opponent so with 5 debuffs so she should be fully resistant I just wanna know does this work against lotan has anyone tried it if lemme know if it works before I go into the fight

Take not that the synergy is 'Unique' debuff. So to gain 100%, you need 5 unique debuffs.

Suppression (1st Medium), Energy Vulnerability (3rd Light), Sunder (Heavy), Overload (SP1), Taunt (SP2)

It's easy to actually maintain at least 3 of them, so that's already 60%. It will definitely help against the degen. I brought Mr. Negative for my Photon during this fight, too.

Oh I thought it was just five debuffs in general but thanks for the help @Vendemiaire how would u say the fight was with photon was it easy does she need to be duped for fight cuz I got her rank 3 unduped

Vendemiaire

summerdeer said:

Vendemiaire said:

summerdeer said:

So I have a question photons synergy with Mr negative says she becomes resistant to degen per debuff on opponent so with 5 debuffs so she should be fully resistant I just wanna know does this work against lotan has anyone tried it if lemme know if it works before I go into the fight

Take not that the synergy is 'Unique' debuff. So to gain 100%, you need 5 unique debuffs.

Suppression (1st Medium), Energy Vulnerability (3rd Light), Sunder (Heavy), Overload (SP1), Taunt (SP2)

It's easy to actually maintain at least 3 of them, so that's already 60%. It will definitely help against the degen. I brought Mr. Negative for my Photon during this fight, too.

Oh I thought it was just five debuffs in general but thanks for the help @Vendemiaire how would u say the fight was with photon was it easy does she need to be duped for fight cuz I got her rank 3 unduped

She doesn't need the dupe. I also used Photon twice on my exploration. I used Count Nefaria for the other one for fun as he's also really effective for this fight.

The fight is relatively easy as long as you know what you need to do to gain Smite Charge (this one depends on the position of the storm) and how to remove Desecration per phase.

It is definitely one of the best boss fights out there. Enjoy!

summerdeer

Vendemiaire said:

summerdeer said:

Vendemiaire said:

summerdeer said:

So I have a question photons synergy with Mr negative says she becomes resistant to degen per debuff on opponent so with 5 debuffs so she should be fully resistant I just wanna know does this work against lotan has anyone tried it if lemme know if it works before I go into the fight

Take not that the synergy is 'Unique' debuff. So to gain 100%, you need 5 unique debuffs.

Suppression (1st Medium), Energy Vulnerability (3rd Light), Sunder (Heavy), Overload (SP1), Taunt (SP2)

It's easy to actually maintain at least 3 of them, so that's already 60%. It will definitely help against the degen. I brought Mr. Negative for my Photon during this fight, too.

Oh I thought it was just five debuffs in general but thanks for the help @Vendemiaire how would u say the fight was with photon was it easy does she need to be duped for fight cuz I got her rank 3 unduped

She doesn't need the dupe. I also used Photon twice on my exploration. I used Count Nefaria for the other one for fun as he's also really effective for this fight.

The fight is relatively easy as long as you know what you need to do to gain Smite Charge (this one depends on the position of the storm) and how to remove Desecration per phase.

It is definitely one of the best boss fights out there. Enjoy!

Thank u for all ur help I look forward to the fight but first have to prepare and get revives cuz I’m a bot

summerdeer

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Average_Desi

summerdeer said:

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Cause she has really high energy resistance

summerdeer

Average_Desi said:

summerdeer said:

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Cause she has really high energy resistance

so would it be a bad idea to bring her then should I just juggs the fight or like quicksilver it

Bogo

summerdeer said:

Average_Desi said:

summerdeer said:

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Cause she has really high energy resistance

so would it be a bad idea to bring her then should I just juggs the fight or like quicksilver it

I brought her and she worked, it's just you need to pray for crits otherwise she hits like a noodle.

Juggs doesn't work because she bans unstoppable and gains insane power because of it. Not a good idea.

summerdeer

Bogo said:

summerdeer said:

Average_Desi said:

summerdeer said:

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Cause she has really high energy resistance

so would it be a bad idea to bring her then should I just juggs the fight or like quicksilver it

I brought her and she worked, it's just you need to pray for crits otherwise she hits like a noodle.

Juggs doesn't work because she bans unstoppable and gains insane power because of it. Not a good idea.

Are there any other good counters cuz ik i cant bring torch cuz of insane energy resist how about kitty can she take the fight or nick or even herc or how about og witch with quicksilver synergy cuz i barely have any good science champs

SirGamesBond

summerdeer said:

Average_Desi said:

summerdeer said:

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Cause she has really high energy resistance

so would it be a bad idea to bring her then should I just juggs the fight or like quicksilver it

It's a great practice...I took 4 phases out in one attempt with my photon.
Back and forth for 10 minutes

captain_rogers

Summer deer, science guys are your best friends
Post your science champs.

What I followed is, 2 champs to clear path and 3 science guys, at the choice node, swap for one more science champ.

Champs that have access to debuffs for different phases are the best. Luke silk spam and most other good science champ works.

summerdeer

captain_rogers said:

Summer deer, science guys are your best friends
Post your science champs.

What I followed is, 2 champs to clear path and 3 science guys, at the choice node, swap for one more science champ.

Champs that have access to debuffs for different phases are the best. Luke silk spam and most other good science champ works.

the science champs I have are 7 star r1 Ant-Man 7r3 photon 6r4 quicksilver sig 40 and 6r5 ascended torch sig 60 those are the only science champs I have above 6 r1

summerdeer

SirGamesBond said:

summerdeer said:

Average_Desi said:

summerdeer said:

wait I saw a video and photon was barely doing any damage against lotan why is this happening was that a bug at the time

Cause she has really high energy resistance

so would it be a bad idea to bring her then should I just juggs the fight or like quicksilver it

It's a great practice...I took 4 phases out in one attempt with my photon.
Back and forth for 10 minutes

I honestly just cant do fights that take 10 15 minutes

SirGamesBond

I planned it a little and ended up with all 5 science champ to fight her all three paths.
I used DSH, nefaria, photon both 6 and 7* and Silk.

I saw 7* onslaught solo. I don't remember the champs but I saw other solos too.
But the point is You need to avoid any champ with buffs. And refer simulas guide.

summerdeer

SirGamesBond said:

I planned it a little and ended up with all 5 science champ to fight her all three paths.
I used DSH, nefaria, photon both 6 and 7* and Silk.

I saw 7* onslaught solo. I don't remember the champs but I saw other solos too.
But the point is You need to avoid any champ with buffs. And refer simulas guide.

yea I watched his guide I think I may have to watch it a bit more I have a question will quicksilver's whiplash be boosted

captain_rogers

summerdeer said:

SirGamesBond said:

I planned it a little and ended up with all 5 science champ to fight her all three paths.
I used DSH, nefaria, photon both 6 and 7* and Silk.

I saw 7* onslaught solo. I don't remember the champs but I saw other solos too.
But the point is You need to avoid any champ with buffs. And refer simulas guide.

yea I watched his guide I think I may have to watch it a bit more I have a question will quicksilver's whiplash be boosted

Quicksilver will work because he have many debuffs like slow that'll help.

summerdeer

captain_rogers said:

summerdeer said:

SirGamesBond said:

I planned it a little and ended up with all 5 science champ to fight her all three paths.
I used DSH, nefaria, photon both 6 and 7* and Silk.

I saw 7* onslaught solo. I don't remember the champs but I saw other solos too.
But the point is You need to avoid any champ with buffs. And refer simulas guide.

yea I watched his guide I think I may have to watch it a bit more I have a question will quicksilver's whiplash be boosted

Quicksilver will work because he have many debuffs like slow that'll help.

ok thank u

Buttehrs

Been a little while since I did lotan but I'm pretty sure I used scorpion.