BG matching, once again

I do not understand, again.
I literally forfeited last 5 matches because opponents were 30-45k all champs.
So I spent 2 full refills to just promote 5 people for free to the next tier.
Same happened to me, my champs are 18-25k, and I got matches with 15-20k.

My questiins is: what's the point?

I can help you here:
SELECT p1 FROM bgTable
WHERE p1.topChampRating == myTopChampRating +- 1000

Simple

Comments

BringPopcorn

Or understand that BG is a competition and you are not ready to move up as much as you want. Need to beef up your roster. That's even more simple.

Vollmondum

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...

BringPopcorn

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...

So there are other people lower than you playing too. Not too hard to understand. I never said you were at the bottom. You are in the middle means you will face higher and lower.

Vollmondum

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...
So there are other people lower than you playing too. Not too hard to understand. I never said you were at the bottom. You are in the middle means you will face higher and lower.

That is the issue. Why matching against lower or higher. That is why it is called matching.
Just take 200 of my energy and do not waste my time forfeiting etc.

Phantøm_Echø

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...

Bro its just like any other competition in the real world. If we all run a 10 mile sprint those who have spent time practicing and exercising will get there fastest and easiest, those who lag behind will take longer or likely need more training. Stop trying to baby yourself, it is a global competition. Either keep at it until you are able to outskill your opponents or do other external content to beef up your roster

BringPopcorn

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...
So there are other people lower than you playing too. Not too hard to understand. I never said you were at the bottom. You are in the middle means you will face higher and lower.
That is the issue. Why matching against lower or higher. That is why it is called matching.
Just take 200 of my energy and do not waste my time forfeiting etc.

Because that would make you climb up all the way with almost no effort, even higher than people who worked hard on building a deck. Celestial players for example would be facing each other in VT non stop.

Vollmondum

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?

BringPopcorn

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?

Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.

Vollmondum

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...
Bro its just like any other competition in the real world. If we all run a 10 mile sprint those who have spent time practicing and exercising will get there fastest and easiest, those who lag behind will take longer or likely need more training. Stop trying to baby yourself, it is a global competition. Either keep at it until you are able to outskill your opponents or do other external content to beef up your roster

You are missing on one thing: if we run together, faster runners go ahead. And compete. The do not run over slower ones. This is why there are tiers

Vollmondum

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.

Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's

BringPopcorn

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.
Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's

Cause then a lot of casuals would just "play" 5 matches collect all VT rewards for basically free.
I understand your position. You thought out every part that would make it "fair" for you. You just didn't think anything at all on the other part.

Vollmondum

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.
Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's
Cause then a lot of casuals would just "play" 5 matches collect all VT rewards for basically free.

Yes, and they get those anyway with those forfeits. Thus the topic. It is just pointless. Give them their rewards without wasting fine 2 hours of so called matchmaking.

Fair for me is to compete, and now having victories without a struggle just because they saw my r5s200ascended serpent, onslaught and enchantress and forfeited. It is just wrong

BringPopcorn

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.
Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's
Cause then a lot of casuals would just "play" 5 matches collect all VT rewards for basically free.
Yes, and they get those anyway with those forfeits. Thus the topic. It is just pointless. Give them their rewards without wasting fine 2 hours of so called matchmaking.

Fair for me is to compete, and now having victories without a struggle just because they saw my r5s200ascended serpent, onslaught and enchantress and forfeited. It is just wrong

Then why do you forfeit? Lol

Vollmondum

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.
Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's
Cause then a lot of casuals would just "play" 5 matches collect all VT rewards for basically free.
Yes, and they get those anyway with those forfeits. Thus the topic. It is just pointless. Give them their rewards without wasting fine 2 hours of so called matchmaking.

Fair for me is to compete, and now having victories without a struggle just because they saw my r5s200ascended serpent, onslaught and enchantress and forfeited. It is just wrong
Then why do you forfeit? Lol

Because i see same stuff, but 7*r4s200

BringPopcorn

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.
Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's
Cause then a lot of casuals would just "play" 5 matches collect all VT rewards for basically free.
Yes, and they get those anyway with those forfeits. Thus the topic. It is just pointless. Give them their rewards without wasting fine 2 hours of so called matchmaking.

Fair for me is to compete, and now having victories without a struggle just because they saw my r5s200ascended serpent, onslaught and enchantress and forfeited. It is just wrong
Then why do you forfeit? Lol
Because i see same stuff, but 7*r4s200

Then its perfectly balanced, you quit on people. People quit on you.

Vollmondum

Oooh, is that why I see 15k players in vibranium 2?
Seeding was bugged this season, some people started in tiers they shouldn't have. So its possible they are unable to even win a few fights there.
Even thus, why are 45k players starting in vibranium. Send them straight to gladiator's
Cause then a lot of casuals would just "play" 5 matches collect all VT rewards for basically free.
Yes, and they get those anyway with those forfeits. Thus the topic. It is just pointless. Give them their rewards without wasting fine 2 hours of so called matchmaking.

Fair for me is to compete, and now having victories without a struggle just because they saw my r5s200ascended serpent, onslaught and enchantress and forfeited. It is just wrong
Then why do you forfeit? Lol
Because i see same stuff, but 7*r4s200
Then its perfectly balanced, you quit on people. People quit on you.

You nailed it

Vollmondum

I hope that 1:40 match search is connected with kabam already addressing the issue

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I do not mind playing against tougher opponents, it raises the skill, but... do those opponents enjoy the slaughter? 😁

Demonzfyre

Again same reply, and again wrong and lazy. No, it is not about roster. As I said, it is stupid matching. I had 4 ~15k opponenta in a row and just ranked up just as fast with forfeits...

It's 100% about roster and skill and how far each of those can take you. If you're getting matches you think you can't win, you've hit your ceiling.

So you think you should have lesser competition to move up and get the same rewards I get for facing harder competition?

Asher1_1

I do not understand, again.
I literally forfeited last 5 matches because opponents were 30-45k all champs.
So I spent 2 full refills to just promote 5 people for free to the next tier.
Same happened to me, my champs are 18-25k, and I got matches with 15-20k.

My questiins is: what's the point?

I can help you here:
SELECT p1 FROM bgTable
WHERE p1.topChampRating == myTopChampRating +- 1000

Simple

U need to check for active players first lol

DNA3000

I do not understand, again.
I literally forfeited last 5 matches because opponents were 30-45k all champs.
So I spent 2 full refills to just promote 5 people for free to the next tier.
Same happened to me, my champs are 18-25k, and I got matches with 15-20k.

My questiins is: what's the point?

I can help you here:
SELECT p1 FROM bgTable
WHERE p1.topChampRating == myTopChampRating +- 1000

Simple

The problem is not that Kabam cannot do this. The problem is Kabam already tried this, and predictably it generated horrible results, so they stopped doing it.

I don't know why so many people think the problem is that this is impossible, and they are just the geniuses to solve the problem. The actual problem is what they want is freaking horrible.

Matching only people like you means weak players can just match against other weak players and easily float their way into GC, while much stronger players end up matching against other much stronger players and have a much more difficult time climbing to GC. You end up with thousands of Uncollected players in GC and tons of Paragons and Valiants stuck unable to climb into GC. Just because of sheer numbers (there are more lower progress players than higher ones) more lower progress players get into GC than higher ones.

This is absurd. I think it is absurd. Most competitive players think this is absurd. Kabam thinks this is absurd. So Kabam stopped doing this absurd thing.

Here's what's simple. Suggest something that will allow more weaker players to rise to the top of a competition than stronger ones, and only idiots will take that suggestion. To be honest, given that Alliance War used to work this way and generated the same horrible results, I question the sanity of the person who thought this would work in BG. But while it took two years for this to be removed from Alliance War, it took much less time to eventually purge this from BG, so there's that.

The point to BG is that it is a competition. The stronger players should do better, not worse. If you're a weaker player, the point is to see how good you are by comparing yourself to everyone, not just the people you can beat, and to get stronger so you can beat more people tomorrow than today. And if that's too much for you, competition is not for you.

Vollmondum

The point to BG is that it is a competition. The stronger players should do better, not worse. If you're a weaker player, the point is to see how good you are by comparing yourself to everyone, not just the people you can beat, and to get stronger so you can beat more people tomorrow than today. And if that's too much for you, competition is not for you.

Again, you do not understand a simple thing: these matches promote tougher players at a cost of weaker players' energy. There is no competitiin or game, it is just a rivalry of forfeits. Like noted before, you give up on people, people give up on you.

Off 10 matches I get to actually play only three

Vollmondum

You got a point though: no active players now, and you get only those who are online.
And yes, the ceiling is there.

I'd then add an option to accept or decline screen, to see who you are accepting beforehand: you see your match, see his champs, and then accept or decline. That will save time and nerve.

Closed.

AndyBaron7

Personally I think bgs is buggy some fights are fine some fights take you know the psss even if champ they placed is easy to beat be it my phone game programming ect it doesn’t work as well as other game modes and puts me off it all together