The Huge dependence on raids should have been announced earlier

The summoner's fest event has almost a third of its points in Raids.
Why didn't the team communicate this info earlier considering the optional nature of nightmare raids??

They are certainly aware that not all alliances do raid, much less Nightmare raids. If participating in raids was absolutely essential why didn't they announce it prior to the event such as to allow summoners to switch alliances or join one.

Instead they just stayed radio silent on the topic, they let the raid week roll out like normal.

Im not even complaining about the huge dependency on raids, I'm literally asking why were we not informed in advance when the best rewards are completely unattainable without raids.

Comments

GroundedWisdom

It's not absolutely essential, though.

summerdeer

It's not absolutely essential, though.

It kinda is if u wanna get all milestones without spending

Priyabrata

It's not absolutely essential, though.

you mind elaborating on that mr wisdom? would you rather I spend thousands of dollars when i could have very well switched alliances, participated in raids and reached the last milestones had I been informed prior?

why dont you lay out a spreadsheet and see where you land on the milestones without a single point from raids?

Furrymoosen

Raids are 20% of the total available points, so really not almost a third. Alliances that don't do raids don't have to do raids. Kabam doesn't seem to like communicating ahead of time for most things anymore because they know how the community will respond to what they're putting out. Should really make them go back to the drawing board with that stuff, but they just choose to delay the disappointment until the last minute.

Priyabrata

Raids are 20% of the total available points, so really not almost a third. Alliances that don't do raids don't have to do raids. Kabam doesn't seem to like communicating ahead of time for most things anymore because they know how the community will respond to what they're putting out. Should really make them go back to the drawing board with that stuff, but they just choose to delay the disappointment until the last minute.

so because they're afraid of backlash, they just wait until the very last moment so that people who could actually do something about their alliance situation, now can't, and hence ultimately amplify the backlash?
Some big brain strategy they have got

CheeseMaster482

It's not absolutely essential, though.

Good luck getting the top milestone without raids

Heinz11

The summoner's fest event has almost a third of its points in Raids.
Why didn't the team communicate this info earlier considering the optional nature of nightmare raids??

They are certainly aware that not all alliances do raid, much less Nightmare raids. If participating in raids was absolutely essential why didn't they announce it prior to the event such as to allow summoners to switch alliances or join one.

Instead they just stayed radio silent on the topic, they let the raid week roll out like normal.

Im not even complaining about the huge dependency on raids, I'm literally asking why were we not informed in advance when the best rewards are completely unattainable without raids.

Luckily, there will be three more weeks of Raids, so your alliance can still get some points.

Priyabrata

The summoner's fest event has almost a third of its points in Raids.
Why didn't the team communicate this info earlier considering the optional nature of nightmare raids??

They are certainly aware that not all alliances do raid, much less Nightmare raids. If participating in raids was absolutely essential why didn't they announce it prior to the event such as to allow summoners to switch alliances or join one.

Instead they just stayed radio silent on the topic, they let the raid week roll out like normal.

Im not even complaining about the huge dependency on raids, I'm literally asking why were we not informed in advance when the best rewards are completely unattainable without raids.

Luckily, there will be three more weeks of Raids, so your alliance can still get some points.

my guy that's the whole issue here, it should be imperative from my post that my alliance doesn't do raids, to do this I would have to leave my alliance, join a new one coordinate with the new members and qualify for the raids. Is that possible in the duration of a few days before the next raid week begins?

MrSakuragi

The summoner's fest event has almost a third of its points in Raids.
Why didn't the team communicate this info earlier considering the optional nature of nightmare raids??

They are certainly aware that not all alliances do raid, much less Nightmare raids. If participating in raids was absolutely essential why didn't they announce it prior to the event such as to allow summoners to switch alliances or join one.

Instead they just stayed radio silent on the topic, they let the raid week roll out like normal.

Im not even complaining about the huge dependency on raids, I'm literally asking why were we not informed in advance when the best rewards are completely unattainable without raids.

Luckily, there will be three more weeks of Raids, so your alliance can still get some points.
my guy that's the whole issue here, it should be imperative from my post that my alliance doesn't do raids, to do this I would have to leave my alliance, join a new one coordinate with the new members and qualify for the raids. Is that possible in the duration of a few days before the next raid week begins?

You only need to be in the alliance for 24 hours before you can play raids. So if you move before midday Sunday you can do the next round.

Furrymoosen

Raids are 20% of the total available points, so really not almost a third. Alliances that don't do raids don't have to do raids. Kabam doesn't seem to like communicating ahead of time for most things anymore because they know how the community will respond to what they're putting out. Should really make them go back to the drawing board with that stuff, but they just choose to delay the disappointment until the last minute.
so because they're afraid of backlash, they just wait until the very last moment so that people who could actually do something about their alliance situation, now can't, and hence ultimately amplify the backlash?
Some big brain strategy they have got

That's probably not their original plan, but that's how it's been working out pretty much since banquet.

Buttehrs

I guess they assumed anyone worth a damn ( to kabam), was always doing raids anyways.

JackTheSnack

Raids are 20% of the total available points, so really not almost a third. Alliances that don't do raids don't have to do raids. Kabam doesn't seem to like communicating ahead of time for most things anymore because they know how the community will respond to what they're putting out. Should really make them go back to the drawing board with that stuff, but they just choose to delay the disappointment until the last minute.

Yep. My alliance wasn’t able to participate in nightmare bc ours got switched over for some reason…and now we’re out all those points…then you add all the bugs with them in on top of that and it just sucks all the way around. In addition to raids there’s the twitch drops that apparently you were supposed to wait to claim after the event started - also never announced. Yet people are ahead a significant amount of points for doing just that. It’s all just one big mess

MrSakuragi

Raids are 20% of the total available points, so really not almost a third. Alliances that don't do raids don't have to do raids. Kabam doesn't seem to like communicating ahead of time for most things anymore because they know how the community will respond to what they're putting out. Should really make them go back to the drawing board with that stuff, but they just choose to delay the disappointment until the last minute.
Yep. My alliance wasn’t able to participate in nightmare bc ours got switched over for some reason…and now we’re out all those points…then you add all the bugs with them in on top of that and it just sucks all the way around. In addition to raids there’s the twitch drops that apparently you were supposed to wait to claim after the event started - also never announced. Yet people are ahead a significant amount of points for doing just that. It’s all just one big mess

You’re only out 3,000 points from doing normal raids at this point

GroundedWisdom

It's not absolutely essential, though.
you mind elaborating on that mr wisdom? would you rather I spend thousands of dollars when i could have very well switched alliances, participated in raids and reached the last milestones had I been informed prior?

why dont you lay out a spreadsheet and see where you land on the milestones without a single point from raids?

If you're trying to do EVERYTHING, then perhaps. However, that's really an elective process. It's also extreme. Not all Players are meant to get all Rewards. Quite honestly, I'm playing as usual and whatever I pick up will be fine. It's not essential to do everything and get every Milestone, and people shouldn't drive themselves crazy if it's not in their wheelhouse, when you consider the Rewards, especially the last several ones. Some Titan Shards and a few extra thousand Gem Shards aren't worth that much stress. I suspect they didn't want to encourage everyone to go all out. That's not an essential thing.

the_eradicator

It's not absolutely essential, though.
you mind elaborating on that mr wisdom? would you rather I spend thousands of dollars when i could have very well switched alliances, participated in raids and reached the last milestones had I been informed prior?

why dont you lay out a spreadsheet and see where you land on the milestones without a single point from raids?
If you're trying to do EVERYTHING, then perhaps. However, that's really an elective process. It's also extreme. Not all Players are meant to get all Rewards. Quite honestly, I'm playing as usual and whatever I pick up will be fine. It's not essential to do everything and get every Milestone, and people shouldn't drive themselves crazy if it's not in their wheelhouse, when you consider the Rewards, especially the last several ones. Some Titan Shards and a few extra thousand Gem Shards aren't worth that much stress. I suspect they didn't want to encourage everyone to go all out. That's not an essential thing.

What the heck do you mean by not all players are supposed to get the rewards ? Mr Wisdom you still seem to not get the point. You are looking at this from your perspective not from an endgame players vision, which if you are will want to complete all the milestones. Its an event, an event that you can fully finish if you complete all the requirements and most of the requirements just spell out -"Do all the events in the game and you will get points"..so yeah players who do that will get the rewards..again most of the endgame players who play BG, AW, raids..monthly content.

The ranked rewards are not something all players are supposed to reach obviously cos its a whaling contest ..but the normal milestones in a community event/celebration like this, this was just poor communication.

Herbal_Taxman

If somebody is currently in an alliance that doesn’t do raids, they shouldn’t look at any big event and assume they’re going to get all the rewards.

BringPopcorn

Communication was terrible, starting from the livestream that gave twitch drops with 7.5k points. Really convenient for them to sat "Oh its just pots to test its working..." and this is comming from someone who got the points.

ItsClobberinTime

It's not absolutely essential, though.

It is if you want to get to the highest milestones, are people supposed to go spend hundreds on units now because of Kabam's mistakes? Lmfao let's reward Kabam for **** up, your comments really never cease to amaze me GW.

JackTheSnack

Raids are 20% of the total available points, so really not almost a third. Alliances that don't do raids don't have to do raids. Kabam doesn't seem to like communicating ahead of time for most things anymore because they know how the community will respond to what they're putting out. Should really make them go back to the drawing board with that stuff, but they just choose to delay the disappointment until the last minute.
Yep. My alliance wasn’t able to participate in nightmare bc ours got switched over for some reason…and now we’re out all those points…then you add all the bugs with them in on top of that and it just sucks all the way around. In addition to raids there’s the twitch drops that apparently you were supposed to wait to claim after the event started - also never announced. Yet people are ahead a significant amount of points for doing just that. It’s all just one big mess
You’re only out 3,000 points from doing normal raids at this point

Other rewards just aren’t worth it honestly

SirGamesBond

If somebody is currently in an alliance that doesn’t do raids, they shouldn’t look at any big event and assume they’re going to get all the rewards.

The final 5-6 milestones contains a full t7b in fragments and a titan crystal.

I'll not comment on communication.
But I want to say is If someone is not doing raids by default. It's kinda falls on them.
Im sure intended target players will reach there without spending or over grinding the game.

Paul_V

A big L for Kabam. Such global events are meant to increase interest in the game and not leave 90% of the players frustrated.

Ercarret

I agree. As an alliance leader in a fairly chill and non-committal alliance, we usually just run one Raid BG each month. Since we often struggle to fill that one BG, I didn't really think of setting up several Raids BGs for the Raids month. I just assumed that it would be the same less-than-ten alliance mates who ran it all month long. However, since we got a bunch of free tickets and since so many points for the Realm Event is in there, we had a surprising number of alliance members who wanted to join. To the point where not everyone fit into the first BG I'd set up. I did change it so that we have more BGs set up going forward, but it was still pretty annoying to not be able to accommodate everyone who normally don't do Raids but wanted to hop in due to the current circumstances.

I have absolutely no problem with Raids being an important part of the event, but a heads up would have been neat. While I knew that Raids Month was coming in, that didn't really change things for most alliance members. That was just more of something that they don't normally play. However, making a fair bit of the Realm Event rewards dependant on Raids completion changed things pretty drastically.

DrZola

If somebody is currently in an alliance that doesn’t do raids, they shouldn’t look at any big event and assume they’re going to get all the rewards.

While that’s a fair point, when have we had broad events in the past where Raids specifically were an essential requirement for getting rewards?

For the record, I’m not all that sore at not getting points for Raids (we don’t really have the manpower for even a small Raids effort). My main lament is missing out on MODOK, who I assume may be available elsewhere.

My primary beef, however, is the overall poor and scattered communication that seems to have overtaken the team. Players shouldn’t have to cover multiple channels just to figure out what to do in game.

Dr. Zola

JESUSCHRIST

60,000 points from nightmare raids

300,000 points available in total

That means 20% gone if you do not play nightmare raids

SirGamesBond

60,000 points from nightmare raids

300,000 points available in total

That means 20% gone if you do not play nightmare raids

Only for people who will completely avoid all iterations.

After first week, the ones who are willing will have to decide it for themselves.

SirGamesBond

If somebody is currently in an alliance that doesn’t do raids, they shouldn’t look at any big event and assume they’re going to get all the rewards.
While that’s a fair point, when have we had broad events in the past where Raids specifically were an essential requirement for getting rewards?

For the record, I’m not all that sore at not getting points for Raids (we don’t really have the manpower for even a small Raids effort). My main lament is missing out on MODOK, who I assume may be available elsewhere.

My primary beef, however, is the overall poor and scattered communication that seems to have overtaken the team. Players shouldn’t have to cover multiple channels just to figure out what to do in game.

Dr. Zola

I hope you get it mr zola.
Ill hold till they announced the comp. They might (probably will) include some points in the comp.

I hope devs are actually not that self absorbed and provide players some room for error.
The 15k point buffer is already gone by missing first set of nightmare.

In the end this is mcoc. Who has not effed up an event because of complications involved.
To this day I check sq 3 times before entering.
Lessons from the past mistakes savin us.

DrZola

@SirGamesBond there’s that and the Twitch drops and then the general mess they’ve made of this month and what’s supposed to be a community-wide Realm event.

Fine with it either way. There are exactly 18 7* champs I don’t have (including MODOK). Two are the newest ones, two are in the Titan, at least eight are trophies, one is Mr. F, two are in basic/loyalty and the rest are purchase champs. I’m not losing sleep over MODOK.

Dr. Zola

SirGamesBond

Twitch drop points were not intended.
And I don't mind some people getting them
What i say in most player benefit bugs is 'Lucky for them'
I know it may affect people who are going for rank rewards. But personally I'm just a normal player who don't dwell into what's going in the top dog tiers.

DrZola

Right @SirGamesBond.

I wouldn’t be in the top ranks regardless of whether we did Raids.

But re: Twitch points…communication, communication, communication.

We still have open questions in threads (visited by mods) asking which things get you to the 300K *free* points. Why launch events you don’t want to talk about?

Dr. Zola

FiiNCH

3 certainties in life:

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. Kabam failing to communicate properly