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Nightmare raids rewards question

O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 194 ★★
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I have a question regarding exploration rewards for Nightmare Raids.
Our BG cleared all the bosses. But a mistake was made and nobody joined as vanguard to the rightmost path. The map overall information shows 94% of exploration.
Aren’t we going to not receive exploration rewards even though we killed all the bosses?
If yes, then, sadly, it feels so unfair after the efforts made…



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  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 1,138 ★★★
    100% - u get full exploration
    If not u won't ,how this simple logic is unfair ??
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,768 ★★★★★
    O_Deadpool_O said:

    I have a question regarding exploration rewards for Nightmare Raids.
    Our BG cleared all the bosses. But a mistake was made and nobody joined as vanguard to the rightmost path. The map overall information shows 94% of exploration.
    Aren’t we going to not receive exploration rewards even though we killed all the bosses?
    If yes, then, sadly, it feels so unfair after the efforts made…



    I thought that raids also has the undo last move option. Didn’t they ?
  • O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 194 ★★
    JessieS said:

    O_Deadpool_O said:

    I have a question regarding exploration rewards for Nightmare Raids.
    Our BG cleared all the bosses. But a mistake was made and nobody joined as vanguard to the rightmost path. The map overall information shows 94% of exploration.
    Aren’t we going to not receive exploration rewards even though we killed all the bosses?
    If yes, then, sadly, it feels so unfair after the efforts made…



    I thought that raids also has the undo last move option. Didn’t they ?

    Undo the move would not work if player joined with the wrong role. Unfortunately.
  • O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 194 ★★
    Asher1_1 said:

    100% - u get full exploration
    If not u won't ,how this simple logic is unfair ??

    Quest, AW, AQ maps typically guarantee that if you target defenders and defeat everyone, you get 100% exploration.
    This game had a state at some point where some maps required “empty step” to get 100% exploration. But it was long ago.
    If you defeat any single defender in AQ maps 1-8 you will get 100% exploration.
    If you defeat all defenders in Raids you will not get 100%.
    So, this is what I call “unfair”.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,885 ★★★★★
    O_Deadpool_O said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    100% - u get full exploration
    If not u won't ,how this simple logic is unfair ??

    Quest, AW, AQ maps typically guarantee that if you target defenders and defeat everyone, you get 100% exploration.
    This game had a state at some point where some maps required “empty step” to get 100% exploration. But it was long ago.
    If you defeat any single defender in AQ maps 1-8 you will get 100% exploration.
    If you defeat all defenders in Raids you will not get 100%.
    So, this is what I call “unfair”.
    A good example is Grandmaster's Gauntlet. You have to 100%. That means running it 4 times as there is an off path after each lane. You won't get rewards though for running it three of those times if you want 100%.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,821 ★★★★★
    Do you have less than 10 in the BG so 2 people made a mistake? If so can someone join with an alt account and take the missing path?
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,789 Guardian
    Rayven5220 said:

    O_Deadpool_O said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    100% - u get full exploration
    If not u won't ,how this simple logic is unfair ??

    Quest, AW, AQ maps typically guarantee that if you target defenders and defeat everyone, you get 100% exploration.
    This game had a state at some point where some maps required “empty step” to get 100% exploration. But it was long ago.
    If you defeat any single defender in AQ maps 1-8 you will get 100% exploration.
    If you defeat all defenders in Raids you will not get 100%.
    So, this is what I call “unfair”.
    No, if you don't step on all of the nodes, with or without defenders, you will not get 100%.
    Not every node has a defender on it.
    It's been this way for as long as I can remember.
    Back in the day, you had to do every single line too, not just step on every single node. That one Iceman EQ still haunts me where you had to do the whole thing over again just to take a different line.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,978 ★★★★★
    Don't blame the game.
    Blame the two players who could be Vanguard but chose not to.
  • Call_Me_Wap2Call_Me_Wap2 Member Posts: 82 ★
    Atleast you still got the token
  • captaincushcaptaincush Member Posts: 1,038 ★★★★
    MrSakuragi said:

    Do you have less than 10 in the BG so 2 people made a mistake? If so can someone join with an alt account and take the missing path?

    Have to join day 1, so that's not an option
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,885 ★★★★★
    captaincush said:

    MrSakuragi said:

    Do you have less than 10 in the BG so 2 people made a mistake? If so can someone join with an alt account and take the missing path?

    Have to join day 1, so that's not an option
    I've always wondered if that was true on the AQ join page. I know if you join another AQ group, you can't join on another day, but is it still true if you haven't done AQ for the entire week?
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,789 Guardian
    edited July 13
    captaincush said:

    MrSakuragi said:

    Do you have less than 10 in the BG so 2 people made a mistake? If so can someone join with an alt account and take the missing path?

    Have to join day 1, so that's not an option
    You have to be in the alliance before day 1, you can join raids later in the week if you so wish. Last month we had someone join on the last day of raids to help take out the last gentle on the middle path
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 6,885 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    captaincush said:

    MrSakuragi said:

    Do you have less than 10 in the BG so 2 people made a mistake? If so can someone join with an alt account and take the missing path?

    Have to join day 1, so that's not an option
    You have to be in the alliance before day 1, you can join raids later in the week if you so wish. Last month we had someone join on the last day of raids to help take out the last gentle on the middle path
    Thanks. That's good to know.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,821 ★★★★★
    captaincush said:

    MrSakuragi said:

    Do you have less than 10 in the BG so 2 people made a mistake? If so can someone join with an alt account and take the missing path?

    Have to join day 1, so that's not an option
    Oh yeah forgot need to be in 24 hours prior
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 14,664 Guardian
    edited July 15
    Pikolu said:


    You have to be in the alliance before day 1, you can join raids later in the week if you so wish. Last month we had someone join on the last day of raids to help take out the last gentle on the middle path

    MrSakuragi said:


    Oh yeah forgot need to be in 24 hours prior

    The having to be in the alliance prior to the Raids Week starting is one thing.
    But (here and some other places) have also went further saying you need to be in alliance 24 hours prior to Raids Week starting (???)

    Questioning that 2nd statement, because my alliance had someone join us just earlier today (maybe a little before Raids started, but according to “hello, just joined your alliance” message in chat, WELL AFTER what would have been a whole day PRIOR to Raids. Maybe much closer to starting time itself).

    So how confident is it that you have to be in Alliance a full day (24 hrs) before the Monday Raids Week Starting time ??

    ——
    This (below quote) was yet another, from a different thread, similar saying have to be in 24 hrs prior.
    .
    Furrymoosen said:

    They will not get any rewards for the previous week or the next week. You need to be in an alliance 24 hours prior to raids starting to join, so they already can't participate for the coming week. If they leave their current alliance before rewards go out tomorrow (about 24 hours from now), then they won't get any of the rewards from this week.

  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,978 ★★★★★
    SummonerNR said:

    Pikolu said:


    You have to be in the alliance before day 1, you can join raids later in the week if you so wish. Last month we had someone join on the last day of raids to help take out the last gentle on the middle path

    MrSakuragi said:


    Oh yeah forgot need to be in 24 hours prior

    The having to be in the alliance prior to the Raids Week starting is one thing.
    But (here and some other places) have also went further saying you need to be in alliance 24 hours prior to Raids Week starting (???)

    Questioning that 2nd statement, because my alliance had someone join us just earlier today (maybe a little before Raids started, but according to “hello, just joined your alliance” message in chat, WELL AFTER what would have been a whole day PRIOR to Raids. Maybe much closer to starting time itself).

    So how confident is it that you have to be in Alliance a full day (24 hrs) before the Monday Raids Week Starting time ??

    ——
    This (below quote) was yet another, from a different thread, similar saying have to be in 24 hrs prior.
    .
    Furrymoosen said:

    They will not get any rewards for the previous week or the next week. You need to be in an alliance 24 hours prior to raids starting to join, so they already can't participate for the coming week. If they leave their current alliance before rewards go out tomorrow (about 24 hours from now), then they won't get any of the rewards from this week.

    I was right (maybe not but probably yes)
    You can enter raids if you join an alliance before it starts.

    The 15 minute window is what I'm not sure about for raids.
    I have switched alliance in that 15 minute window and done AQ safely.
  • Asher1_1Asher1_1 Member Posts: 1,138 ★★★
    edited July 15
    O_Deadpool_O said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    100% - u get full exploration
    If not u won't ,how this simple logic is unfair ??

    Quest, AW, AQ maps typically guarantee that if you target defenders and defeat everyone, you get 100% exploration.
    This game had a state at some point where some maps required “empty step” to get 100% exploration. But it was long ago.
    If you defeat any single defender in AQ maps 1-8 you will get 100% exploration.
    If you defeat all defenders in Raids you will not get 100%.
    So, this is what I call “unfair”.
    So u want 9 people to just go one role - > 9 purg to clear the map then demand exploration reward 🤣🤣 that's definitely sounds "" Fair ""
  • O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 194 ★★
    edited July 15
    Asher1_1 said:

    O_Deadpool_O said:

    Asher1_1 said:

    100% - u get full exploration
    If not u won't ,how this simple logic is unfair ??

    Quest, AW, AQ maps typically guarantee that if you target defenders and defeat everyone, you get 100% exploration.
    This game had a state at some point where some maps required “empty step” to get 100% exploration. But it was long ago.
    If you defeat any single defender in AQ maps 1-8 you will get 100% exploration.
    If you defeat all defenders in Raids you will not get 100%.
    So, this is what I call “unfair”.
    So u want 9 people to just go one role - > 9 purg to clear the map then demand exploration reward 🤣🤣 that's definitely sounds "" Fair ""

    No, I actually did not mean this at all.
    I personally do not like extra hack champions like Purgatory or Silk lock and did not use this technique.
    But from your point of view it also makes sense. It should not be possible.

    I only meant that it is frustrating that one mistake, one not taken role punishes for exploration rewards.
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