Kabam only thinks for money.

Monetization Hell (Pay-to-Win at Its Peak).Whales dominate: If you don't spend, you'll never compete in top-tier content like Alliance Wars or high-level Battlegrounds.Unfun difficulty spikes: Some content is hard not because of skill, but because of BS nodes and champion immunity stacking.
It's all about Money .
Unit drain traps: Story quests, Karatemike-style challenges, and side events are designed to drain revives and units unless you have specific meta champs. Kabam removed revive farming, making hard content even more punishing for free-to-play players.
Kabam: "We want to protect the balance of the game."

Players: “Can we get fewer unit offers then?”

Kabam: "No, but here's a $99 Odin pack with 1 revive and 3 rocks."

Comments

Fit_Fun9329

Water is wet

PT_99

So what do you suggest Kabam do to make money?

JessieS

Monetization Hell (Pay-to-Win at Its Peak).Whales dominate: If you don't spend, you'll never compete in top-tier content like Alliance Wars or high-level Battlegrounds.Unfun difficulty spikes: Some content is hard not because of skill, but because of BS nodes and champion immunity stacking.
It's all about Money .
Unit drain traps: Story quests, Karatemike-style challenges, and side events are designed to drain revives and units unless you have specific meta champs. Kabam removed revive farming, making hard content even more punishing for free-to-play players.
Kabam: "We want to protect the balance of the game."

Players: “Can we get fewer unit offers then?”

Kabam: "No, but here's a $99 Odin pack with 1 revive and 3 rocks."

I mean yeah it’s a corporation that’s kind of their thing but why do you want to compete on insane top levels ? Isn’t true point to have fun and it seems a lot more fun to compete at normal levels instead of burning money

JESUSCHRIST

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?

YodaKaj

Time is an illusion

Searmenis

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?

Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.

Gamer

Karatemike-style that was not even bad revives is in the game to use it okay to use revives if you no MSD it okay to use it it what they ben make for you can farm 40 over 30 days can even do 60

Mixtapevol02

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.

Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?

filledwithlove

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?

I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.

SG2468

op never played a game which is truly p2w . Just try games made by EA and u will realize what p2w means.

SirGamesBond

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?
I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.

Entertainment industry = give free movie tickets
Is that okay analogy for comparison?

MrSakuragi

So what do you suggest Kabam do to make money?

Subscription model where everyone pays maybe

Lokx

It’s definitely pay to play at the highest level, but you can still play entertainingly at mid level.

Yes it requires more time and effort but all quest are doable at the mid tier + can be satisfying. Once you stop trying to play against the whales, the game is alright.

Searmenis

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?
I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.
Entertainment industry = give free movie tickets
Is that okay analogy for comparison?

No. Entertainment insdustry= make decent movies so I can be happy and eager to buy a ticket to watch them. You make something for everyone, f2p or p2p, doesn t matter. You entertain.

Noobmaster555

As they should be.

SirGamesBond

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?
I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.
Entertainment industry = give free movie tickets
Is that okay analogy for comparison?
No. Entertainment insdustry= make decent movies so I can be happy and eager to buy a ticket to watch them. You make something for everyone, f2p or p2p, doesn t matter. You entertain.

My reply was to a reply to a reply. Context is somewhere in there.

Demonzfyre

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.

They provide a free mobile that has no requirements to spend. They've done their job.

Monubean

Of course.. you didn't know?

Pikolu

So what do you suggest Kabam do to make money?
Subscription model where everyone pays maybe

Please no. That's my least favorite model for free to play games.

Imagine getting past act 4 or act 5 and then your XP gain is reduced to 20%, rewards are cut to 20%, and energy gain takes 5 times longer unless you buy the subscription for $10 a month to play the game.

Buttehrs

So what do you suggest Kabam do to make money?
Subscription model where everyone pays maybe
Please no. That's my least favorite model for free to play games.

Imagine getting past act 4 or act 5 and then your XP gain is reduced to 20%, rewards are cut to 20%, and energy gain takes 5 times longer unless you buy the subscription for $10 a month to play the game.

Thanks. I hate it.

Suckmysigma

I agree I mean I’m 100% fine with them making money of course I just wish the content was more F2P friendly

captain_rogers

This is what happens when game is privatised.

Summoners of the world, unite! Seize the means of units production. Injustice to one Thronebreaker is Injustice to all summoners!
Long live the Revolution ☭.

Joker1976

In actuality they have been quite generous with rewards for all of us as of late (and in comparison to earlier years of the game),..including F2P.
Of course it’s a business and if they want the game to continue to be successful it requires monetization.
It’s a far stretch to say that it’s all they care about as they give plenty of incentives for all types of players to stay and fill out alliances.

Suckmysigma

In actuality they have been quite generous with rewards for all of us as of late (and in comparison to earlier years of the game),..including F2P.
Of course it’s a business and if they want the game to continue to be successful it requires monetization.
It’s a far stretch to say that it’s all they care about as they give plenty of incentives for all types of players to stay and fill out alliances.

I did enjoy the dead pool event! It’s just the actual challenges ( act 6 actually) that’s my problem. But I’ll get over it

filledwithlove

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?
I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.
Entertainment industry = give free movie tickets
Is that okay analogy for comparison?

Feel free to ridicule me but I don't get what your point is, neither do I understand the analogy. Could you clarify your stance and overall opinion so that I can give you a relatively well-educated response? Or maybe try to explain the analogy of the guy I responded to in mcoc terms if you agree with them?

I'm struggling a bit out here to comprehend what everyone is criticising in OP's complaints. Feel like there's a new wave of "game free, no ads, what more do you want?" and I just don't get it. I thought the aggressive monetization was becoming a problem as of late, what changed? Are we at peace with it now? I don't have much to say if community accepts it the way it is, thought it was a problem for you guys but guess not?

Pikolu

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?
I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.
Entertainment industry = give free movie tickets
Is that okay analogy for comparison?
Feel free to ridicule me but I don't get what your point is, neither do I understand the analogy. Could you clarify your stance and overall opinion so that I can give you a relatively well-educated response? Or maybe try to explain the analogy of the guy I responded to in mcoc terms if you agree with them?

I'm struggling a bit out here to comprehend what everyone is criticising in OP's complaints. Feel like there's a new wave of "game free, no ads, what more do you want?" and I just don't get it. I thought the aggressive monetization was becoming a problem as of late, what changed? Are we at peace with it now? I don't have much to say if community accepts it the way it is, thought it was a problem for you guys but guess not?

People have complained about monetization in the game for at least 9+ years. These aren't new complaints. If kabams new model of monetization recently means that the big spending events of J4 and Cyber weekend aren't as OP as J4 was a few years ago (where Seatin had taken a multiple year break and with just buying those offers was able to cross a multi-year gap of not playing) then I'll take that as a win.

The fact of the matter is that probably no more than 3% of the entire playerbase even spends money, so those people are keeping the game free for everyone else. If kabam doesn't have an incentive for these people to pay, then they wont pay.

We complain about monetization and how P2W things are, but most of us also understand that is the reality of playing a free to play game in general. It isn't anything new so we complain about it and just live with it.

Gentsy12

In actuality they have been quite generous with rewards for all of us as of late (and in comparison to earlier years of the game),..including F2P.
Of course it’s a business and if they want the game to continue to be successful it requires monetization.
It’s a far stretch to say that it’s all they care about as they give plenty of incentives for all types of players to stay and fill out alliances.
I did enjoy the dead pool event! It’s just the actual challenges ( act 6 actually) that’s my problem. But I’ll get over it

Content has become much less resource intensive since act 6 originally released. Nerfed act 6, 7, 8, 9, EoP, and epoch were all possible itemless, necro required way less revives than abyss. The worst piece of content they release recently was WoF and even that wasn’t super revive intensive if you had the right counters.

SirGamesBond

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
Try going to restaurants and eat without paying. Then tell them that they are in the hospitality industry and supposed to provide food and beverages. Let see if they agree with you for not paying.

Or simply if your boss doesn’t pay you for the work you do there.

The game is ads free, and free to play, what else are expecting?
I refuse to imagine how smart you must have felt when typing out those analogies. Think again for a bit, the request from the comment you replied to is nothing similar to what you just said.
Entertainment industry = give free movie tickets
Is that okay analogy for comparison?
Feel free to ridicule me but I don't get what your point is, neither do I understand the analogy. Could you clarify your stance and overall opinion so that I can give you a relatively well-educated response? Or maybe try to explain the analogy of the guy I responded to in mcoc terms if you agree with them?

I'm struggling a bit out here to comprehend what everyone is criticising in OP's complaints. Feel like there's a new wave of "game free, no ads, what more do you want?" and I just don't get it. I thought the aggressive monetization was becoming a problem as of late, what changed? Are we at peace with it now? I don't have much to say if community accepts it the way it is, thought it was a problem for you guys but guess not?

Welcome to the forums.

Searmenis

What else a company supposed to do besides making money?
Provide the service they re supposed to as an entertainment company. Aka, entertain.
They provide a free mobile that has no requirements to spend. They've done their job.

If it s buggy, uninspired and sloppy/amateurish, it s not. Every and any company has to make their customers ' money worth. And/Or time.

If you personally feel you getting back what you give, that s fine. Delusional, but fine, we don t judge here.

Lost____one

I think the complaints on monetization are game balance issues and the economic term inflation.

Years ago a large percentage of the competitive part of game could be done ftp. With more time and effort invested. Spending gave an advantage, but lower spenders and ftp could still chase to big spenders and catch up.

Everest content could be done quickly to get the rewards sooner with unit man on the team or slower with less spent. Same rewards. Eventually the field of play is even.

Now there is a pay to participate feel to the game. No spending = no possibility of best or even decent rewards.

Inflating the unit cost of deals, offers and events creates a greater imbalance. Rich people will always have more no matter what.

You can not stop inflation with additional inflation.

And since kabam cares about the whales the most... does it make whale feel like spending more to get a greater advantage over a low or free spender when the roster size difference is already insurmountable.