Does this War Count?

ChaosMax1012

We haven’t fully explored our map in war yet and had a chance to win, but now that is all null and void and we are going to lose this war due to a maintenance. There is physically nothing we can do. I spent 400k loyalty on this war on potions alone and 180 units for energy refills to complete my part, and other members here have paid their toll too to try to win this war. I will be deeply disappointed if this just results in a loss after our hard fought efforts to try to win.

JESUSCHRIST

There is still time if they managed to fix the game quickly

ChaosMax1012

JESUSCHRIST said:

There is still time if they managed to fix the game quickly

We have players that work and intended to get their fights down this morning. Who knows how long the maintenance will last. We still have war bosses remaining and thats a great deal of points lost, win or lose the war. Only 2 hours remain in war and theres a maintenance taking up that time.

SummonerNR

It's not scheduled maintenance..

They’ve said in the past that it is just the easiest existing message to put there for times when game is unintentionally down because of a problem.

TotemCorruption

ChaosMax1012 said:

JESUSCHRIST said:

There is still time if they managed to fix the game quickly

We have players that work and intended to get their fights down this morning. Who knows how long the maintenance will last. We still have war bosses remaining and thats a great deal of points lost, win or lose the war. Only 2 hours remain in war and theres a maintenance taking up that time.

That is understandable, but on the other hand you also have people who cleared their paths and used resources.
I don't know what the best solution is.

ChaosMax1012

TotemCorruption said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

JESUSCHRIST said:

There is still time if they managed to fix the game quickly

We have players that work and intended to get their fights down this morning. Who knows how long the maintenance will last. We still have war bosses remaining and thats a great deal of points lost, win or lose the war. Only 2 hours remain in war and theres a maintenance taking up that time.

That is understandable, but on the other hand you also have people who cleared their paths and used resources.
I don't know what the best solution is.

I’ve spent maybe 1 and a half hours alone doing assignments for this war for all 3 BGs yesterday. For me personally as a leader its a slap to the face that all the time, resources and efforts are now all going to **** and our ranking in war could be negatively impacted. I dont see why this maintenance couldn’t have waited until after war ended in 2 hours.

myanswer

ChaosMax1012 said:

TotemCorruption said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

JESUSCHRIST said:

There is still time if they managed to fix the game quickly

We have players that work and intended to get their fights down this morning. Who knows how long the maintenance will last. We still have war bosses remaining and thats a great deal of points lost, win or lose the war. Only 2 hours remain in war and theres a maintenance taking up that time.

That is understandable, but on the other hand you also have people who cleared their paths and used resources.
I don't know what the best solution is.

I’ve spent maybe 1 and a half hours alone doing assignments for this war for all 3 BGs yesterday. For me personally as a leader its a slap to the face that all the time, resources and efforts are now all going to **** and our ranking in war could be negatively impacted. I dont see why this maintenance couldn’t have waited until after war ended in 2 hours.

Maybe this maintenance is unintended and unpredicted due to some instant issues like power outage

TotemCorruption

ChaosMax1012 said:

TotemCorruption said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

JESUSCHRIST said:

There is still time if they managed to fix the game quickly

We have players that work and intended to get their fights down this morning. Who knows how long the maintenance will last. We still have war bosses remaining and thats a great deal of points lost, win or lose the war. Only 2 hours remain in war and theres a maintenance taking up that time.

That is understandable, but on the other hand you also have people who cleared their paths and used resources.
I don't know what the best solution is.

I’ve spent maybe 1 and a half hours alone doing assignments for this war for all 3 BGs yesterday. For me personally as a leader its a slap to the face that all the time, resources and efforts are now all going to **** and our ranking in war could be negatively impacted. I dont see why this maintenance couldn’t have waited until after war ended in 2 hours.

I think this was an unexpected outage not a preplanned maintenance.
Like I said, I'm not sure what the best compensation will be that doesn't screw over at least one side of a War match.

SirGamesBond

It should...
Reason. My ally is winning.
No other reason.🤫

JESUSCHRIST

It's not planned maintenance

Something broke

Aozer

Unrelated to maintenance issue. But why do you need to spend units on energy refill when it's a 2 day war?

ChaosMax1012

Aozer said:

Unrelated to maintenance issue. But why do you need to spend units on energy refill when it's a 2 day war?

Its not the matter of whether i needed to or not, i also didnt need to spend an hour and a half doing assignments and i didnt need to spend 400k loyalty on potions. The fact that i did all of that and that many other players are in a similar position to give their alliance the best competitive advantage just for a maintenance to decide the outcome of the war is simply unfair. Imagine your alliance is about to get the highest rank they have ever achieved with only 1 boss remaining and a maintenance kicks in and your alliance loses the war and their progression. That is what i am trying to get at.

startropics

you bet your ass it counts!

(i would have said the opposite if we lost lol)

ChaosMax1012

This whole situation is also unfair to the already winning alliances that could be impacted by this maintenance as well in the case that this war doesn’t count, because they have also used resources. Only thing i can think of is if they do what they did a few seasons back and bump everyone up a rank. Not sure if that’s what this situation calls for but it’s an option on the table.

Qwerty12345

If itndidnt count, id want my items back

Furrymoosen

ChaosMax1012 said:

Aozer said:

Unrelated to maintenance issue. But why do you need to spend units on energy refill when it's a 2 day war?

Its not the matter of whether i needed to or not, i also didnt need to spend an hour and a half doing assignments and i didnt need to spend 400k loyalty on potions. The fact that i did all of that and that many other players are in a similar position to give their alliance the best competitive advantage just for a maintenance to decide the outcome of the war is simply unfair. Imagine your alliance is about to get the highest rank they have ever achieved with only 1 boss remaining and a maintenance kicks in and your alliance loses the war and their progression. That is what i am trying to get at.

Maintenance isn't deciding anything. The game literally crashed and they're trying to bring it back up. They're not doing this to anyone. They might make the war not count (which they won't correctly fix so it won't matter), or the war will still count - they will decide once the final picture is in view.
There's bigger problems here than a single war. July is deserving of some pretty juicy comp for how bad the game has been for the last week, with consideration for how bad the game has been for the last several months on top of that.

Ptavida

This need to be address soon! @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos

startropics

it suck for players who didn’t finish but why leave it to the last minute? war is 44hrs or whatever, not 2.

BringPopcorn

It should, and will count; to be completely fair even if they decided that I won't count is bad news. They have never been able to adjust cancelled wars right and the scoring, standings and everything gets screwed up at the end of season.

Furrymoosen

Ptavida said:

This need to be address soon! @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos

It might take those guys a little while to get on it. You may have to adjust your understanding of "soon".

Nomis13

This sucks for 2 reasons.
1. We won fair and square, were up 16 deaths had all our fights done.
2. Those who hadnt completed and were winning are now going to lose the war and a massive amount of points

The only way to fix this is to extend war another 12 hrs.

ChaosMax1012

startropics said:

it suck for players who didn’t finish but why leave it to the last minute? war is 44hrs or whatever, not 2.

Many masters players have left war fights to the last hour in the past due to various reasons, jobs, events, responsibilities and occupations. Same situation here with some of our members. Also some people aren’t going to pull an all nighter to get their fights down.

JESUSCHRIST

Definitely will be counted bcos many alliances already cleared the boss much earlier

BringPopcorn

Nomis13 said:

This sucks for 2 reasons.
1. We won fair and square, were up 16 deaths had all our fights done.
2. Those who hadnt completed and were winning are now going to lose the war and a massive amount of points

The only way to fix this is to extend war another 12 hrs.

How are you going to lose if you "had all your fights done"?

Furrymoosen

Nomis13 said:

This sucks for 2 reasons.
1. We won fair and square, were up 16 deaths had all our fights done.
2. Those who hadnt completed and were winning are now going to lose the war and a massive amount of points

The only way to fix this is to extend war another 12 hrs.

Extending the war by 12 hours, while feasibly workable in the schedule of things, would almost certainly introduce more bugs that will almost certainly be worse.

ChaosMax1012

Furrymoosen said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Aozer said:

Unrelated to maintenance issue. But why do you need to spend units on energy refill when it's a 2 day war?

Its not the matter of whether i needed to or not, i also didnt need to spend an hour and a half doing assignments and i didnt need to spend 400k loyalty on potions. The fact that i did all of that and that many other players are in a similar position to give their alliance the best competitive advantage just for a maintenance to decide the outcome of the war is simply unfair. Imagine your alliance is about to get the highest rank they have ever achieved with only 1 boss remaining and a maintenance kicks in and your alliance loses the war and their progression. That is what i am trying to get at.

Maintenance isn't deciding anything. The game literally crashed and they're trying to bring it back up. They're not doing this to anyone. They might make the war not count (which they won't correctly fix so it won't matter), or the war will still count - they will decide once the final picture is in view.
There's bigger problems here than a single war. July is deserving of some pretty juicy comp for how bad the game has been for the last week, with consideration for how bad the game has been for the last several months on top of that.

Maintenance is quite literally deciding something. War ends in approx another hour, maintenance is still up, other alliance has 20 fights up, we have 15 fights up. Both sides have atleast a boss remaining. Even if they win, they lose 20k points to their multiplier.

Nomis13

BringPopcorn said:

Nomis13 said:

This sucks for 2 reasons.
1. We won fair and square, were up 16 deaths had all our fights done.
2. Those who hadnt completed and were winning are now going to lose the war and a massive amount of points

The only way to fix this is to extend war another 12 hrs.

How are you going to lose if you "had all your fights done"?

Nah im just sayin kabam cant not count this war

Nomis13

Furrymoosen said:

Nomis13 said:

This sucks for 2 reasons.
1. We won fair and square, were up 16 deaths had all our fights done.
2. Those who hadnt completed and were winning are now going to lose the war and a massive amount of points

The only way to fix this is to extend war another 12 hrs.

Extending the war by 12 hours, while feasibly workable in the schedule of things, would almost certainly introduce more bugs that will almost certainly be worse.

Ya ig, now that game is back everything is chill tho

JESUSCHRIST

I'm in the game now

Game is up

Furrymoosen

ChaosMax1012 said:

Furrymoosen said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Aozer said:

Unrelated to maintenance issue. But why do you need to spend units on energy refill when it's a 2 day war?

Its not the matter of whether i needed to or not, i also didnt need to spend an hour and a half doing assignments and i didnt need to spend 400k loyalty on potions. The fact that i did all of that and that many other players are in a similar position to give their alliance the best competitive advantage just for a maintenance to decide the outcome of the war is simply unfair. Imagine your alliance is about to get the highest rank they have ever achieved with only 1 boss remaining and a maintenance kicks in and your alliance loses the war and their progression. That is what i am trying to get at.

Maintenance isn't deciding anything. The game literally crashed and they're trying to bring it back up. They're not doing this to anyone. They might make the war not count (which they won't correctly fix so it won't matter), or the war will still count - they will decide once the final picture is in view.
There's bigger problems here than a single war. July is deserving of some pretty juicy comp for how bad the game has been for the last week, with consideration for how bad the game has been for the last several months on top of that.

Maintenance is quite literally deciding something. War ends in approx another hour, maintenance is still up, other alliance has 20 fights up, we have 15 fights up. Both sides have atleast a boss remaining. Even if they win, they lose 20k points to their multiplier.

You say it like they chose to do maintenance right now. Only in that sense could maintenance be deciding something. The game crashed. Emergency maintenance and scheduled maintenance are the only pop-ups they have that can go in game. It isn't scheduled maintenance, so it has to be an emergency. But it also isn't technically emergency maintenance because Kabam didn't pull the game down - the game crashed and was already down. So again, maintenance isn't "deciding" anything. Maintenance is the message they put up so people understand that the game is down and they are trying to get it back up.
This doesn't absolve Kabam of any responsibility here. They owe the players a lot with how the game has been particularly in this last week. But you're acting like Kabam made a decision to keep people out of the game at a time where players may most desperately need to be in - that's not fair because that's not what's happening.

ChaosMax1012

Furrymoosen said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Furrymoosen said:

ChaosMax1012 said:

Aozer said:

Unrelated to maintenance issue. But why do you need to spend units on energy refill when it's a 2 day war?

Its not the matter of whether i needed to or not, i also didnt need to spend an hour and a half doing assignments and i didnt need to spend 400k loyalty on potions. The fact that i did all of that and that many other players are in a similar position to give their alliance the best competitive advantage just for a maintenance to decide the outcome of the war is simply unfair. Imagine your alliance is about to get the highest rank they have ever achieved with only 1 boss remaining and a maintenance kicks in and your alliance loses the war and their progression. That is what i am trying to get at.

Maintenance isn't deciding anything. The game literally crashed and they're trying to bring it back up. They're not doing this to anyone. They might make the war not count (which they won't correctly fix so it won't matter), or the war will still count - they will decide once the final picture is in view.
There's bigger problems here than a single war. July is deserving of some pretty juicy comp for how bad the game has been for the last week, with consideration for how bad the game has been for the last several months on top of that.

Maintenance is quite literally deciding something. War ends in approx another hour, maintenance is still up, other alliance has 20 fights up, we have 15 fights up. Both sides have atleast a boss remaining. Even if they win, they lose 20k points to their multiplier.

You say it like they chose to do maintenance right now. Only in that sense could maintenance be deciding something. The game crashed. Emergency maintenance and scheduled maintenance are the only pop-ups they have that can go in game. It isn't scheduled maintenance, so it has to be an emergency. But it also isn't technically emergency maintenance because Kabam didn't pull the game down - the game crashed and was already down. So again, maintenance isn't "deciding" anything. Maintenance is the message they put up so people understand that the game is down and they are trying to get it back up.
This doesn't absolve Kabam of any responsibility here. They owe the players a lot with how the game has been particularly in this last week. But you're acting like Kabam made a decision to keep people out of the game at a time where players may most desperately need to be in - that's not fair because that's not what's happening.

You made an assumption. The fact still stands that the maintenance impacted the war. I never mentioned kabam or blamed anyone directly. The fact of the matter is maintenance impacted the results of this war potentially, and that matters.