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NIGHTMARE RAID

ReiSupremo_26ReiSupremo_26 Member Posts: 7
Hello everyone, I'm here to report several problems we're facing in RAID NIGHASADE as a whole.
1 - Starting with the problem that the Supreme Spider is regenerating a lot of health from some champions that have regeneration bonuses in their kit, like Angela and Serpente. I see screenshots where he heals himself for 200k+, which would make it immensely difficult to take him down.
2 - Using the Tactical function against him is being unfeasible, since most of them are cosmic with many bonuses. Not to mention the role boost "Unparalleled buffs," which is making it impossible to gain fervor, since it's impossible to his specials, and holding down defense to punish the heavy is not recommended due to the high block damage and the fact that punishing him becomes invisible every time
3 - Supreme Spider is putting his spider seals, and it was reported that this ability of his would be disabled, well, that didn't happen either
4 - Those using Count Nefaria are having issues with crashes in the fight
5 - I see some reports where Ebony is nullified the bonuses several times in his special 1, especially in those who took vox to do it, they die from the degeneration and the explosion of damage that vox receives when being nulled, this is present in his kit
6 - Even though there is a 50% reduction in relation to Ebony degeneration, it is still too high, consuming almost half the life of anyone who is not resistant to degeneration, is this correct?
7 - Spot gains immunity to bonuses on his special 1, well, as Kushala, Vox and other champions will do if we can't build our fervor by role boost "Vicious Placeblo"? Its construction becomes almost unfeasible, since it removes Placebo bonuses

Please consider all these questions, we need answers and some compensation, the Nightmare raid is not fun and is far beyond challenging, being almost impossible to do it
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  • BuffalaxBuffalax Member Posts: 145
    Yeah, this one has been rough. I have not been able to find a rhythm at all. This was my worry about Raid month without getting the practice arena up first. There's no way to fix the bugs or interactions the week of. You just have to Unitman through it if you want the champ selector. They need to test this stuff with people outside the company and outside the top tier alliances before they release it.
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  • ReiSupremo_26ReiSupremo_26 Member Posts: 7

    They don't have time to fix or change... They sucked all the fun out of raids.

    In the last Raid they fixed Rintrah and Sasquatch in the middle of the Raid week, what's stopping them from doing the same now? It doesn't make sense to me.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,613 ★★★★★
    edited July 15

    They don't have time to fix or change... They sucked all the fun out of raids.

    In the last Raid they fixed Rintrah and Sasquatch in the middle of the Raid week, what's stopping them from doing the same now? It doesn't make sense to me.
    The previous raid the defenders changed from what it was described. This one is not changed or bugged from an update. Its just bad.
    Remember Korg raid and his thorn damage? They had to fix it by the next raid. Also they haven't even acknowledged anything being wrong so far.
  • Aj0074Aj0074 Member Posts: 3
    Now I am unable to get raid favour after betting special or heavy against ebony mow second mini boss.any one other facing same issue?
  • BuffalaxBuffalax Member Posts: 145
    edited July 15
    I can't get "dodge me or perish" to count against 2nd fight Spot unless he hits me, which is ludicrous. Dex, dex, dex, nothing. Ok, I must need to let him get closer. Dex, dex, dammit, wait that counted? How am I dodging and getting hit on the same attack?
  • tpeters85tpeters85 Member Posts: 82

    They don't have time to fix or change anything... They sucked all the fun out of raids.

    Kabam is shooting themselves in the foot (or maybe just shooting us in the foot?) by throwing new sets of Raids bosses at us in consecutive weeks. Ideally, everything would've been properly play-tested so that these issues would be resolved before they were launched in-game, but that's clearly not the case.
  • KabamPinwheelKabamPinwheel Community Posts: 718

    Hello everyone, I'm here to report several problems we're facing in RAID NIGHASADE as a whole.
    1 - Starting with the problem that the Supreme Spider is regenerating a lot of health from some champions that have regeneration bonuses in their kit, like Angela and Serpente. I see screenshots where he heals himself for 200k+, which would make it immensely difficult to take him down.
    2 - Using the Tactical function against him is being unfeasible, since most of them are cosmic with many bonuses. Not to mention the role boost "Unparalleled buffs," which is making it impossible to gain fervor, since it's impossible to his specials, and holding down defense to punish the heavy is not recommended due to the high block damage and the fact that punishing him becomes invisible every time
    3 - Supreme Spider is putting his spider seals, and it was reported that this ability of his would be disabled, well, that didn't happen either
    4 - Those using Count Nefaria are having issues with crashes in the fight
    5 - I see some reports where Ebony is nullified the bonuses several times in his special 1, especially in those who took vox to do it, they die from the degeneration and the explosion of damage that vox receives when being nulled, this is present in his kit
    6 - Even though there is a 50% reduction in relation to Ebony degeneration, it is still too high, consuming almost half the life of anyone who is not resistant to degeneration, is this correct?
    7 - Spot gains immunity to bonuses on his special 1, well, as Kushala, Vox and other champions will do if we can't build our fervor by role boost "Vicious Placeblo"? Its construction becomes almost unfeasible, since it removes Placebo bonuses

    Please consider all these questions, we need answers and some compensation, the Nightmare raid is not fun and is far beyond challenging, being almost impossible to do it

    Don't have answers for everything, but can respond to two of these:

    1) We're working on this issue, its been a tricky one to nail down but we're working on it and when we have a solution we'll communicate it

    4) We're working on this fix as well, its actually been on the Trello board since last month but we're trying to expedite it given its affect on Raids. Same as above, when we have some more concrete news we'll pass it along.
  • NoahSansmanNoahSansman Member Posts: 505 ★★★

    Hello everyone, I'm here to report several problems we're facing in RAID NIGHASADE as a whole.
    1 - Starting with the problem that the Supreme Spider is regenerating a lot of health from some champions that have regeneration bonuses in their kit, like Angela and Serpente. I see screenshots where he heals himself for 200k+, which would make it immensely difficult to take him down.
    2 - Using the Tactical function against him is being unfeasible, since most of them are cosmic with many bonuses. Not to mention the role boost "Unparalleled buffs," which is making it impossible to gain fervor, since it's impossible to his specials, and holding down defense to punish the heavy is not recommended due to the high block damage and the fact that punishing him becomes invisible every time
    3 - Supreme Spider is putting his spider seals, and it was reported that this ability of his would be disabled, well, that didn't happen either
    4 - Those using Count Nefaria are having issues with crashes in the fight
    5 - I see some reports where Ebony is nullified the bonuses several times in his special 1, especially in those who took vox to do it, they die from the degeneration and the explosion of damage that vox receives when being nulled, this is present in his kit
    6 - Even though there is a 50% reduction in relation to Ebony degeneration, it is still too high, consuming almost half the life of anyone who is not resistant to degeneration, is this correct?
    7 - Spot gains immunity to bonuses on his special 1, well, as Kushala, Vox and other champions will do if we can't build our fervor by role boost "Vicious Placeblo"? Its construction becomes almost unfeasible, since it removes Placebo bonuses

    Please consider all these questions, we need answers and some compensation, the Nightmare raid is not fun and is far beyond challenging, being almost impossible to do it

    Don't have answers for everything, but can respond to two of these:

    1) We're working on this issue, its been a tricky one to nail down but we're working on it and when we have a solution we'll communicate it

    4) We're working on this fix as well, its actually been on the Trello board since last month but we're trying to expedite it given its affect on Raids. Same as above, when we have some more concrete news we'll pass it along.
    Any comp planned? :smile:
  • KabamPinwheelKabamPinwheel Community Posts: 718
    Nothing at the moment, focused on fixing the issues
  • Ceti_EelCeti_Eel Member Posts: 141 ★★
    It might just be me but despite hitting the L/dodge/knock down prompts against SS on the right side I am barely building charges using Silk.
  • FolkvangrFolkvangr Member Posts: 358 ★★★
    Ceti_Eel said:

    It might just be me but despite hitting the L/dodge/knock down prompts against SS on the right side I am barely building charges using Silk.

    Someone on my lane is using her too and he built 15 charges on 2 fights
  • RoyalRose1510RoyalRose1510 Member Posts: 138 ★★

    Nothing at the moment, focused on fixing the issues

    Compensation of 7-14 revives is definitely required & should be sent this week after looking at bosses situation of nightmare raids and bugs that are with them 😔
  • Ceti_EelCeti_Eel Member Posts: 141 ★★
    Folkvangr said:

    Ceti_Eel said:

    It might just be me but despite hitting the L/dodge/knock down prompts against SS on the right side I am barely building charges using Silk.

    Someone on my lane is using her too and he built 15 charges on 2 fights
    Maybe it’s just a skill issue lol

  • dukedevill4412dukedevill4412 Member Posts: 189
    I’m having trouble with spot. Even if I’m bypassing his untouchable with iron heart either by debuffs or the passive buff, I still get some many ruptures on me that I either have to wait out the untouchable phase or just take the damage. Both make the fight super inefficient and unenjoyable. Any pointers are welcomed
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,599 ★★★★★
    Same here. Working as intended? I guess the approach is that you can’t attack him while he’s untouchable even though you’ve got that helpful vigilance passive which allows you to hit him?
  • ReiSupremo_26ReiSupremo_26 Member Posts: 7

    Hello everyone, I'm here to report several problems we're facing in RAID NIGHASADE as a whole.
    1 - Starting with the problem that the Supreme Spider is regenerating a lot of health from some champions that have regeneration bonuses in their kit, like Angela and Serpente. I see screenshots where he heals himself for 200k+, which would make it immensely difficult to take him down.
    2 - Using the Tactical function against him is being unfeasible, since most of them are cosmic with many bonuses. Not to mention the role boost "Unparalleled buffs," which is making it impossible to gain fervor, since it's impossible to his specials, and holding down defense to punish the heavy is not recommended due to the high block damage and the fact that punishing him becomes invisible every time
    3 - Supreme Spider is putting his spider seals, and it was reported that this ability of his would be disabled, well, that didn't happen either
    4 - Those using Count Nefaria are having issues with crashes in the fight
    5 - I see some reports where Ebony is nullified the bonuses several times in his special 1, especially in those who took vox to do it, they die from the degeneration and the explosion of damage that vox receives when being nulled, this is present in his kit
    6 - Even though there is a 50% reduction in relation to Ebony degeneration, it is still too high, consuming almost half the life of anyone who is not resistant to degeneration, is this correct?
    7 - Spot gains immunity to bonuses on his special 1, well, as Kushala, Vox and other champions will do if we can't build our fervor by role boost "Vicious Placeblo"? Its construction becomes almost unfeasible, since it removes Placebo bonuses

    Please consider all these questions, we need answers and some compensation, the Nightmare raid is not fun and is far beyond challenging, being almost impossible to do it

    Don't have answers for everything, but can respond to two of these:

    1) We're working on this issue, it's been a tricky one to nail down but we're working on it and when we have a solution we'll communicate it

    4) We're working on this fix as well, its actually been on the Trello board since last month but we're trying to expedite it given its affect on Raids. Same as above, when we have some more concrete news we'll pass it along.
    Look at this for us, several alliances are considering stopping raid play in week 3 and 4 due to several errors and bugs, all these problems are not worth our sanity LOL
  • Perfect_jabPerfect_jab Member Posts: 124 ★★
    You start with a small group of champs that you can choose to take in, then they put these defenders in an make it so 2 champs can be used if you have them ranked up. Choose any other champ an your screwed. And even if you choose 1 of those champs, you probably have to switch them out on next fight. Then every fight is bugged. Still not fun an extremely aggravating. No sign of it getting fixed or anything at all being done about it. Making every raid over complicated for no reason. Its like everyone sees these defenders that will be in raids an already know its going to be ****show.... except for those creating it. Smh.
    Raids start an have to wait 2 or 3 days before you join.
  • HavanaknightHavanaknight Member Posts: 493 ★★★
    Seeing comments about punishing spidey’s specials. Is it consistently doable (by not tigra)? I can only punish heavies
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  • TadzioTosterTadzioToster Member Posts: 116
    Before week 2 even started every player who play that game for long time knows what problem will be with Spot, sup spider or ebony maw but as always kabam dont know when they create them that this could happen. Do u even hear your ccp or they just useless and said to you thats everything will be fine ?
  • Avenger_A1Avenger_A1 Member Posts: 473 ★★
    Many in our alliance have reported that we aren't reliably or consistently getting role charges and role force, hence not getting the vigilance passive from role force either.

    Add to this the omnipresent issues of randomly missed inputs on basic, heavy, relics, and special attacks, defenders skipping frames, hitting through block as if unblockable, not throwing specials, etc ... more than nightmare, it's a fiasco.

    This isn't enjoyable and fun anymore. Please make it enjoyable and fun again.
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,541 ★★★★★
    At this point there needs to be compensation that includes units not items. 90% of the pool of champs don't work.
  • DetonatorAcc3DetonatorAcc3 Member Posts: 6

    Many in our alliance have reported that we aren't reliably or consistently getting role charges and role force, hence not getting the vigilance passive from role force either.

    Add to this the omnipresent issues of randomly missed inputs on basic, heavy, relics, and special attacks, defenders skipping frames, hitting through block as if unblockable, not throwing specials, etc ... more than nightmare, it's a fiasco.

    This isn't enjoyable and fun anymore. Please make it enjoyable and fun again.

    Perfect Post.

    Kabam managed to destroy something that was fun to play. Since they didn't think beforehand that you can't punish Spider-Man's Special 1 and 2, and punishing his Heavy is suicide, there's no way the guy who created this content didn't think of that.

    @KabamPinwheel
  • N8buckeye08N8buckeye08 Member Posts: 485 ★★★

    Many in our alliance have reported that we aren't reliably or consistently getting role charges and role force, hence not getting the vigilance passive from role force either.

    Add to this the omnipresent issues of randomly missed inputs on basic, heavy, relics, and special attacks, defenders skipping frames, hitting through block as if unblockable, not throwing specials, etc ... more than nightmare, it's a fiasco.

    This isn't enjoyable and fun anymore. Please make it enjoyable and fun again.

    Perfect Post.

    Kabam managed to destroy something that was fun to play. Since they didn't think beforehand that you can't punish Spider-Man's Special 1 and 2, and punishing his Heavy is suicide, there's no way the guy who created this content didn't think of that.

    @KabamPinwheel
    And of course they made all of these issues even more prominent by running a raid month where you don’t have the time to restock on AQ revives and potions for 3 weeks between raids AND lock the champion selector token behind completion, which makes it “mandatory fun” to complete all four weeks.

    I think there are a lot of great ideas that Kabam had in mind, but the execution is just not where it needs to be (and unfortunately, raids doesn’t have a good track record of strong execution).
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