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Battlegrounds Pause Abuse = Gifting Abuse

CyrithCyrith Member Posts: 3
This is my first post so, hey all :)

Back in the day, Kabam banned those players who abused the gifting system by creating dummy accounts to gain advantage over other players. This was considered as an "unintended exploitative behaviour" even though the game technically allowed you to exploit it. This shows that Kabam punishes people who abuse the system to gain advantage in any way, which is good in my point of view.

Same goes for battlegrounds pausing. Game allows you to do it, but it is not intended. You are expected to be playing the match, not stall it. Allowing this ruins the gameplay, fun, sportsmanship, and to be fair; it punishes people who play the game in accordance with sportsmanship. Especially in this meta, people with the lack of a good roster and proper counters are going wild ,even in higher tiers to get rewards.

I remember there was a discussion about it, sth like going in to mainscreen or pausing is considered same behaviour by game client or the operating system, whatever. It is logical to limit the BG pause to 15 secs. as many players suggested already.

I think Kabam officials should send a message both in-game and in forums if this is considered cheating or a reason to get banned. I tried to search the forums about an official statement from Kabam and failed to find it. Apologies if there is already a statement, I would appreciate if anyone shares a link to it.

Ps : For those who believe that exploting, abusing or in an other worda, being a total jacka.. is being smart or strategic is just pathetic. I am personally winning over those people so keep your "get good" comments to yourself. I am just so bothered to see people trying to be smart by doing it and prefer those people to be punished and gotten rid of for a much more fair playerbase.
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  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,087 ★★★★★

    All you have to do is score more than 15,000 points. It's not that hard to counter the people that pause.

    I'd like to see you fight in GC vs a Viv or without power burn immune and score more than 15k points.
    Don't tell me to draft counter, its rng, People are drafting 3 armor defenders either way if you have a counter or not.
    It is a pause Meta, I personally don't care enough to pause, but truth is people are doing it rigorously.
    In 99% of the other metas you would be right.
  • CyrithCyrith Member Posts: 3

    Your analogy doesn't apply as pausing, in 99.9% of cases, puts the offender at a disadvantage.
    Kabam has said in the past that they were looking into ways around pausing, but determined nothing feasible to be reasonable. They have since (years ago) stated that, while not playing the game doesn't fit within the spirit of the contest they do not consider it cheating and do not view it as an exploit to gain an unfair advantage. Case closed.

    So get good.

    Lol, read the post, especially the "Ps" part. It is not about winning the game, I have clearly stated I can manage that easily, been playing this game for more than 9 years. "Get good" on reading and not giving autonomous responses from your spine pal, beforing closing the case all by yourself. Please also share the link to that official statement.

    Your 99.9% assesment is based on what? Previous metas? I'm seeing people moving up in the competetive mode because of obviously exploting it against fair players. In previous metas, pausing was not efficient so abusers were not using it this much and move up. I am currently in mysterium bg. This was not the case while I was moving up. It has spiked in the current GC meta, which takes away the fun.

    What I'm saying is exploting is exploiting, regardless of the rewards or the mode. And sth needs to be done to prevent that. I enjoy the mode because it is competetive and in the past few days i see people with this kind of behaviour is increasing, it is against the soul of competition.

    BG is the only mode i am interested in playing because playing against skillful players with deep rosters is super fun. RN, I am playing against abusers. It definitely is not fun, and is happening because Kabam could not adress this issue.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 6,817 ★★★★★
    Cyrith said:

    Your analogy doesn't apply as pausing, in 99.9% of cases, puts the offender at a disadvantage.
    Kabam has said in the past that they were looking into ways around pausing, but determined nothing feasible to be reasonable. They have since (years ago) stated that, while not playing the game doesn't fit within the spirit of the contest they do not consider it cheating and do not view it as an exploit to gain an unfair advantage. Case closed.

    So get good.

    Lol, read the post, especially the "Ps" part. It is not about winning the game, I have clearly stated I can manage that easily, been playing this game for more than 9 years. "Get good" on reading and not giving autonomous responses from your spine pal, beforing closing the case all by yourself. Please also share the link to that official statement.
    I didn't say get good on terms of gameplay. I meant get good in terms of you're siding in a defunct argument with the dumbest person on the forums. That's a bad example to set for the children of the world.

    And you are welcome to hunt down the statements from both Kabam Miike and Kabam Jax on your own. This argument has been dead since 2023 and there's no extra effort that needs to be put into defending or defeating it. You're welcome to put in the work if you want to.
    They've said it's not exploiting, so therefore it is not. Thankfully this garbage meta will be done soon.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,337 ★★★★★
    Pausegrounds

    This meta is wild but it is ending soon
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,375 ★★★★★
    edited July 22
    If you can't score more than 15k points in BG then you don't deserve to win,
    Simple as that, quit blaming pausers

    Plus blame Kabam for re introducing one of the most hated BG meta because, " something something, we're too lazy to get creative."
  • CyrithCyrith Member Posts: 3

    Cyrith said:

    Your analogy doesn't apply as pausing, in 99.9% of cases, puts the offender at a disadvantage.
    Kabam has said in the past that they were looking into ways around pausing, but determined nothing feasible to be reasonable. They have since (years ago) stated that, while not playing the game doesn't fit within the spirit of the contest they do not consider it cheating and do not view it as an exploit to gain an unfair advantage. Case closed.

    So get good.

    Lol, read the post, especially the "Ps" part. It is not about winning the game, I have clearly stated I can manage that easily, been playing this game for more than 9 years. "Get good" on reading and not giving autonomous responses from your spine pal, beforing closing the case all by yourself. Please also share the link to that official statement.
    I didn't say get good on terms of gameplay. I meant get good in terms of you're siding in a defunct argument with the dumbest person on the forums. That's a bad example to set for the children of the world.

    And you are welcome to hunt down the statements from both Kabam Miike and Kabam Jax on your own. This argument has been dead since 2023 and there's no extra effort that needs to be put into defending or defeating it. You're welcome to put in the work if you want to.
    They've said it's not exploiting, so therefore it is not. Thankfully this garbage meta will be done soon.
    I don't know whom you are talking about, but I am not siding with anyone friend. I am just pointing out that this is happening all over in this garbage meta, and it probably will happen in the future as we all know Kabam will throw garbage metas in the future as well. And abusers will be there, unless it is prevented.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 23,370 ★★★★★
    Cyrith said:

    Cyrith said:

    Your analogy doesn't apply as pausing, in 99.9% of cases, puts the offender at a disadvantage.
    Kabam has said in the past that they were looking into ways around pausing, but determined nothing feasible to be reasonable. They have since (years ago) stated that, while not playing the game doesn't fit within the spirit of the contest they do not consider it cheating and do not view it as an exploit to gain an unfair advantage. Case closed.

    So get good.

    Lol, read the post, especially the "Ps" part. It is not about winning the game, I have clearly stated I can manage that easily, been playing this game for more than 9 years. "Get good" on reading and not giving autonomous responses from your spine pal, beforing closing the case all by yourself. Please also share the link to that official statement.
    I didn't say get good on terms of gameplay. I meant get good in terms of you're siding in a defunct argument with the dumbest person on the forums. That's a bad example to set for the children of the world.

    And you are welcome to hunt down the statements from both Kabam Miike and Kabam Jax on your own. This argument has been dead since 2023 and there's no extra effort that needs to be put into defending or defeating it. You're welcome to put in the work if you want to.
    They've said it's not exploiting, so therefore it is not. Thankfully this garbage meta will be done soon.
    I don't know whom you are talking about, but I am not siding with anyone friend. I am just pointing out that this is happening all over in this garbage meta, and it probably will happen in the future as we all know Kabam will throw garbage metas in the future as well. And abusers will be there, unless it is prevented.
    Here's the best answer you'll get. Pausing is a concern from the game team but pausing isn't explicitly against ToS or the rules of BGs. It's seen as unsportsmanlike conduct. It's at best right now, frowned upon. They have plans to try and address it better in future seasons but it is what it is right now. It's not the same as exploiting a gifting event. You aren't going to get an answer you want. Pausing isn't going away and no one will be punished.
  • M0NKEYNUTSM0NKEYNUTS Member Posts: 313 ★★
    Yeah using pause function as a strategic timeout is likely not the intended purpose.

    The main purpose of pausing is to provide several seconds for you to yell at whoever is giving you grief for playing too much MCOC to leave you alone.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,417 ★★★★★

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Iykyk
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 298 ★★★
    edited July 22
    Doesn't make sense why pausing is even an option in the first place. Other games have inactivity timers so if you can't remove the pause option entirely, you should automatically make it so you forfeit after spending 30 seconds pausing. Matter of fact, you should also be getting temporary matchmaking bans for repeated pausing. If you don't have the time to play BGs don't play it.
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 5,568 ★★★★★
    Completelly agree

    By far the most outrageous unsportmanship way to play

    But, as you can see, people will mock you by saying you cant do more than 15k

    I will search for Kabam Miike answer on this

    Just a moment
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 159

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 159

    Sportmanship in a monetized gacha game? Lol

    OP this here is the crux. When you feel frustrated at the loss, just know it's just a gacha game where the deck of 7 is a randomized set and you win some you lose some.

    Be positive, this BG meta will be over soon.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,417 ★★★★★
    edited July 23

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,818 ★★★★★
    edited July 23
    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,417 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,818 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
    That's so insulting...
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,417 ★★★★★
    edited July 23

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
    That's so insulting...
    Fine. Scooter? One of the motorized ones.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,818 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
    That's so insulting...
    Fine. Scooter? One of the motorized ones.
    That's a lot nicer thank you.
    I don't want the image if my grandma being ridden by a pot head burnout skater boy
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,417 ★★★★★
    edited July 23

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
    That's so insulting...
    Fine. Scooter? One of the motorized ones.
    That's a lot nicer thank you.
    I don't want the image if my grandma being ridden by a pot head burnout skater boy
    What if It was Avril Lavigne? Or tony hawk at least.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,818 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
    That's so insulting...
    Fine. Scooter? One of the motorized ones.
    That's a lot nicer thank you.
    I don't want the image if my grandma being ridden by a pot head burnout skater boy
    What if It was Avril Lavigne? Or tony hawk at least.
    Ewww I saw Tony Hawk doing Taco Bell commercials at his age...
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,417 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    Playing for 9 years doesn't mean anything, I know people who have been playing 7+ years and haven't even been able to beat act 6 and pretend its by choice. I call em the charity pity TBs

    Stop slandering pixie. LOL
    Then maybe he should play the game instead of spending all the meaningless time on forums. If he spent nearly half the time in game as he does on forums he'd be valiant. Just sayin.
    If my grandma had wheels would she be a bicycle?... I don't think he will get past GM for a long long long long long justin long long time
    I mean, she could be a skateboard too.
    That's so insulting...
    Fine. Scooter? One of the motorized ones.
    That's a lot nicer thank you.
    I don't want the image if my grandma being ridden by a pot head burnout skater boy
    What if It was Avril Lavigne? Or tony hawk at least.
    Ewww I saw Tony Hawk doing Taco Bell commercials at his age...
    To be fair, taco bell at any age is a concern...
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