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Overrated or Underrated: Baron Zemo

EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
edited July 26 in General Discussion

Welcome, welcome back to this series where we analyse a specific champion and see if they are overrated, underrated or perfectly rated.
So, there's a rumor that 7* Zemo will be releasing very soon, in the September Titan Pool alongside Nico Minoru, Karolina Dean, The Maker, and the High Evolutionary, plus one other champ. He is believed to be replacing Solvarch, next month's Eidol, as these Eidol champs won't be featured in Titans.
So, in 2025, what do you think of this champion? Is he overrated, underrated, or perfectly rated? (I already know KarateMike's answer already)

Overrated or Underrated: Baron Zemo 70 votes

Overrated
20%
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Underrated
22%
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Perfectly Rated
57%
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  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 379 ★★★
    Overrated
    Overrated asf when he came out. Might hit crazy as a 7 star though
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 748 ★★★
    I hope he comes in Titan instead of money
  • HuskerCoolHuskerCool Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    I hope he’s the next saga chase
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated

    Overrated asf when he came out. Might hit crazy as a 7 star though

    hoping that does change after he's a 7*
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,722 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated

    I hope he’s the next saga chase

    I think he's coming in the next titan pool
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,693 ★★★★★
    Perfectly Rated
    He is very fun to play champ, OP cleanse, great bleed damage and nice control with root mechanics. And disorient/decelerate comes handy in longer fights once you ramp up. Great for short fights great for long fights and everyone knows how good he is.

    Very excited for him.
  • HuskerCoolHuskerCool Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    I hope he’s the next saga chase

    I think he's coming in the next titan pool
    Probably, but I was hoping getting him wouldn’t be RNG-dependent
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 3,287 ★★★★★
    Perfectly Rated
    I think that he, on average, is pretty fairly rated. It's just that some people underrate him while others praise him more than...well, maybe not more than he's worthy or capable of, but I will say that his max power level and his normal power level are two very different things. He does become pretty much a god if you run a full five Zemos as your team. You just don't ever do that outside of extremely limited scenarios, such as Mike's challenge.

    But all of these ups and downs kind of averages out into a fair judgement overall. He's a very strong champion that does a lot of cool things, and I really hope that he is coming out as a 7*.
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    Underrated
    Great for long fights short fights if facing bleed immune. Fastest photon counter to date and is a decent defender. Great utility too
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    Ercarret said:

    I think that he, on average, is pretty fairly rated. It's just that some people underrate him while others praise him more than...well, maybe not more than he's worthy or capable of, but I will say that his max power level and his normal power level are two very different things. He does become pretty much a god if you run a full five Zemos as your team. You just don't ever do that outside of extremely limited scenarios, such as Mike's challenge.

    But all of these ups and downs kind of averages out into a fair judgement overall. He's a very strong champion that does a lot of cool things, and I really hope that he is coming out as a 7*.

    Also don't forget his defensive potential too, especially the non contact attacks, the cleanse, the root, he's gonna be pretty decent. Not Yelena or Bullseye level, but ok. However most of the mutant class nowadays have answers to his kit (Sinister, Negasonic, Onslaught, Jean, Dazzler, even Cyclops)
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    Yes especially with buffed Patriot next month (who's literally designed to counter Photon).
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    I also think Zemo will be a decent High Evolutionary counter as well, because High Evo's not immune to bleed, plus Zemo can deal damage through block as well
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 704 ★★★
    Underrated
    Yeah once revolutionary puts debuffs on the dude he’ll be rooted and then come the bleeds
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,632 ★★★★★
    edited July 26

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    I forgot how fast he did photon at equal ranks? But if its like 40s -50s that's a big rip as my next r4 was gonna be Photon.

    The problem is unlikely patriot if they dont draft photon on attack, you can just throw zemo on defense, making everyone likely to run him
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,722 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    Polygon said:

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    I forgot how fast he did photon at equal ranks? But if its like 40s -50s that's a big rip as my next r4 was gonna be Photon.

    The problem is unlikely patriot if they dont draft photon on attack, you can just throw zemo on defense, making everyone likely to run him
    Same rank was usually around 40, 30 when you got really good crit RNG he was one of the fastest Photon nukes even faster than Mantis. All it took was a couple hits on her block then combo spam as soon as she got rooted and if you got some crits sp1 was usually enough to seal the deal. If she was still alive cause you got very little crits you would just hit on her block a couple more times with the five furies up and she'd die before she could even trigger pure light.
    I definitely think he's going to be relevant again, not meta but relevant.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,632 ★★★★★

    Polygon said:

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    I forgot how fast he did photon at equal ranks? But if its like 40s -50s that's a big rip as my next r4 was gonna be Photon.

    The problem is unlikely patriot if they dont draft photon on attack, you can just throw zemo on defense, making everyone likely to run him
    Same rank was usually around 40, 30 when you got really good crit RNG he was one of the fastest Photon nukes even faster than Mantis. All it took was a couple hits on her block then combo spam as soon as she got rooted and if you got some crits sp1 was usually enough to seal the deal. If she was still alive cause you got very little crits you would just hit on her block a couple more times with the five furies up and she'd die before she could even trigger pure light.
    I definitely think he's going to be relevant again, not meta but relevant.
    Yeah Photon is cooked ngl. Honestly it might be better if i prioritize r4ing the more newer defenders like Yelena, Zola, etc. Photon is dual use but shes more a defender draft than attacker.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,722 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    Polygon said:

    Polygon said:

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    I forgot how fast he did photon at equal ranks? But if its like 40s -50s that's a big rip as my next r4 was gonna be Photon.

    The problem is unlikely patriot if they dont draft photon on attack, you can just throw zemo on defense, making everyone likely to run him
    Same rank was usually around 40, 30 when you got really good crit RNG he was one of the fastest Photon nukes even faster than Mantis. All it took was a couple hits on her block then combo spam as soon as she got rooted and if you got some crits sp1 was usually enough to seal the deal. If she was still alive cause you got very little crits you would just hit on her block a couple more times with the five furies up and she'd die before she could even trigger pure light.
    I definitely think he's going to be relevant again, not meta but relevant.
    Yeah Photon is cooked ngl. Honestly it might be better if i prioritize r4ing the more newer defenders like Yelena, Zola, etc. Photon is dual use but shes more a defender draft than attacker.
    Yeah she's starting to fall off a bit now and Zemo will probably make it worse, I'd even argue she's a bit meta dependant these days. If it's a vanilla meta like the current VT one she gets nuked by so many champs (CB, Okoye, Lumatrix, Sable, FAM etc) she's really not worth max investment like she was a while ago. Yelena and Zola definitely better rank up options.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    Polygon said:

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    I forgot how fast he did photon at equal ranks? But if its like 40s -50s that's a big rip as my next r4 was gonna be Photon.

    The problem is unlikely patriot if they dont draft photon on attack, you can just throw zemo on defense, making everyone likely to run him
    Is Zemo better on BGs attack or defense?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 11,338 ★★★★★
    Underrated

    EdisonLaw said:

    I hope he’s the next saga chase

    I think he's coming in the next titan pool
    Probably, but I was hoping getting him wouldn’t be RNG-dependent
    MCOC is all about gambling
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 5,632 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Polygon said:

    Photon cheese incoming I'm gonna start saving my Titans as soon as I pull Jean... Anyways yeah underrated, always was after the nerf

    I forgot how fast he did photon at equal ranks? But if its like 40s -50s that's a big rip as my next r4 was gonna be Photon.

    The problem is unlikely patriot if they dont draft photon on attack, you can just throw zemo on defense, making everyone likely to run him
    Is Zemo better on BGs attack or defense?
    It depends on the nodes (root, debuffs etc), his sp1 can be punished easily if the nodes dont add much hes not a hard defender. Attack im not sure how 7* would be but id say mainly for debuff heavy champs like photon spider woman hed shine
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