Raid issue

Shalzz

Anyone please tell me, why is onslaught is not immune to fire debuff against human torch in Raids ? My onslaught died because of fire damage .

Super_Cretu90

Because Human Torch inflicts nova flames, which is very different to incinerate debufs

Shalzz

Its not nova flame. Normal flame 🔥

Furrymoosen

Shalzz said:

Its not nova flame. Normal flame 🔥

Because Onslaught deals lots of energy damage. When Torch receives energy damage, he gains smolder charges and increases his temperature. Each smolder increases the potency of his incinerates and nova flames, and the higher temperature increases the chance of receiving an incinerate on contact. Onslaught isn't incinerate immune, he just reduces the potency of incinerate, so each hit just brings him closer to death than Torch is going to get. You also definitely will get hit with nova flames at some point because of his temp and smolders.

Shalzz

I haven't got a single nova flame . I got only 2 or 3 normal flames but I am losing more heath than regeneration. I have fought human torch with onslaught before but not in Raids. In Raids, even with 3 flames I am losing more health than my regeneration speed . My regeneration mastery full. I just wanna know, if something wrong with raid human torch node or not. Thats all. I know human torch kit and onslaught kit also how they work .

Shalzz

Furrymoosen

Shalzz said:

I haven't got a single nova flame . I got only 2 or 3 normal flames but I am losing more heath than regeneration. I have fought human torch with onslaught before but not in Raids. In Raids, even with 3 flames I am losing more health than my regeneration speed . My regeneration mastery full. I just wanna know, if something wrong with raid human torch node or not. Thats all. I know human torch kit and onslaught kit also how they work .

If you know how their kits work, why are you arguing? Of course there is going to be a difference in a 5-minute raid fight and an everyday fight in shorter content. But their kits are still the only thing presenting an issue for you.

Look at Torch's kit and then look back at the screenshot you just shared:


In your screenshot you have 2 incinerates on you, which according to Torch's kit reduces your regen rate by 40%, so your regen masteries may be full, but your regen rate is currently no higher than 75%.
Next, Torch has 26 smolders on him (plus the 2 incinerates on you), so the damage of his incinerates is increased by 336%, bringing the total to 436%. Onslaught's kit reduces incinerate damage by 150%, so the damage coming through is still 286% of Torch's normal incinerate damage.
Given that this is also raids and it's a larger opponent, his attack value is higher than those Torch's you usually take with him, so he's also just going to hit harder in general.
Anyone that knows their kits knows that Onslaught vs Torch isn't the best option if it's not going to be a quick fight. There is no bug here and there is nothing wrong with the raids version of Torch. But it looks like you were able to hit cap anyway, so it doesn't really matter all that much.