Rate my WoF Q2 Team

Oakenshield

Got some helpful advice last week when I was planning my Q1 run, so back as I’m planning to knock Q2 out this weekend.

As a reminder - I’d rather have short fights even if it means a few revives - prefer 3-5 minute fights with a few revives vs. going for a 15 minute solo. Generally have better options for Q2 than I did for Q1, but I do have a few fights I’m looking for input on - Dazzler, Bullseye, Spiral, and Dust.

Also looking for an assessment as to whether I’m crazy using R1 Moondragon for Thanos, although as I learned in Q1 I am really bad at alternating reverse controls so feel like a safe but slow fight with him is better than trying an R2 BRB. But open to input there.

Here is my plan:
Gorr Void R3 Sig 1
Dazzler Stark Spiderman R3 Sig 50 (or SPAM R4 Sig 134?)
Lady Deathstrike Medusa R3 Sig 1
Enchantress Hulk R3 Sig 60
Thor Rags Hyperion R3 Sig 40
Arcade Serpent R3 Unawakened
Leader Photon R3 Sig 66
Bullseye Dazzler R3 Sig 94 (or Cyclops R2 Sig 20?)
Human Torch Deathless She Hulk R3 Sig 55
Serpent American Chavez R3 Sig 60
Spiral Luke Cage R3 Sig 20 (or Bullseye R3 Sig 20)
Dust NTW R1 Sig 20 OR Bishop R3 Sig 40 OR Sunspot R2 Sig 60
D Thanos Moondragon R1 Sig 20

Thanks everyone

captain_rogers

Dazzler sparky is the best choice. Just ramp to 10 charges and never use a special, keep baiting her sp1 and hitting her. Easy fight
Spiral you are better using bullseye the biggest annoyance in that fight is mainly the falter so bullseye works best.

And for dust she is the most annoying imo I believe negasonic is great since she shuts down her debuff cause unblockable node and damage is mainly incenerates.

SirGamesBond

captain_rogers said:

Dazzler sparky is the best choice. Just ramp to 10 charges and never use a special, keep baiting her sp1 and hitting her. Easy fight
Spiral you are better using bullseye the biggest annoyance in that fight is mainly the falter so bullseye works best.

And for dust she is the most annoying imo I believe negasonic is great since she shuts down her debuff cause unblockable node and damage is mainly incenerates.(spam sp1, after sp2 you cant get incinerates on regular hits, dust will activate her sandstorm once or twice anyway. So time sp1s correctly)

+1.

R1 bladdragon works. Throw boosts and couple revives as its going to be a longer fight. But no need to waste a rankup on her.

captain_rogers

Moondragon hits like a pillow though. I used r2 still she barely did any damage lol.

SirGamesBond

captain_rogers said:

Moondragon hits like a pillow though. I used r2 still she barely did any damage lol.

Rip r2 baldy.
I got her after wof, so can't even comment. But I have seen enough people use her just to make the boss easy.
Someone posted a 20 minute screenshot right? And died around 5% missing a solo.

Oakenshield

SirGamesBond said:

captain_rogers said:

Moondragon hits like a pillow though. I used r2 still she barely did any damage lol.

Rip r2 baldy.
I got her after wof, so can't even comment. But I have seen enough people use her just to make the boss easy.
Someone posted a 20 minute screenshot right? And died around 5% missing a solo.

Thanks. Yeah I have a hard time ranking her up for just one fight when she doesn’t hit that much harder as an R2. I’ll just spend some time figuring out her rotation to maximize what little damage there is. But good to know she is safe but slow.

And thanks to @captain_rogers for the advice on the other fights. Will definitely do Sparky and Bulleye based on your advice - probably NTW as well even though she is only R1. Guess those last two fights will both be long!

ItsClobberinTime

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

captain_rogers

SirGamesBond said:

captain_rogers said:

Moondragon hits like a pillow though. I used r2 still she barely did any damage lol.

Rip r2 baldy.
I got her after wof, so can't even comment. But I have seen enough people use her just to make the boss easy.
Someone posted a 20 minute screenshot right? And died around 5% missing a solo.

I swear her damage is tooo bad. Every rotation (sp2 + basics to get the power) dealt like 3 - 4% damage even with all medium boosts, at r2. But the fight is very stress free. Way better than using brb, reverse controls on top of his tight rotation.

captain_rogers

Oakenshield said:

SirGamesBond said:

captain_rogers said:

Moondragon hits like a pillow though. I used r2 still she barely did any damage lol.

Rip r2 baldy.
I got her after wof, so can't even comment. But I have seen enough people use her just to make the boss easy.
Someone posted a 20 minute screenshot right? And died around 5% missing a solo.

Thanks. Yeah I have a hard time ranking her up for just one fight when she doesn’t hit that much harder as an R2. I’ll just spend some time figuring out her rotation to maximize what little damage there is. But good to know she is safe but slow.

And thanks to @captain_rogers for the advice on the other fights. Will definitely do Sparky and Bulleye based on your advice - probably NTW as well even though she is only R1. Guess those last two fights will both be long!

Trust me ntw way better I used pheonix and like, 15 revives. The unblockable on stun makes the fight very tough.

Oakenshield

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

ItsClobberinTime

Oakenshield said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

Haven't done it yet because I'm still waiting for my Void to get awakened unfortunately. But I think you definitely want to intercept while he's below a bar to ramp up to 20 precisions and start spamming specials specifically the sp3 rotation, and then bait sp2s only since it's easy to dex. That's what I plan on doing personally.

As for the reverse control part, regardless I think it's worth getting used to just because endgame content usually tends to have reverse control fights almost always. I use to suck at them before Necropolis but I realized pretty quickly that it's something you absolutely need to get used to because reverse control immune counters won't always be available. If you don't wanna bother with it tho then yeah Moondragon, BRB's just so fast for the fight compared to everyone else, I don't have the kind of patience required to do it with Moonmid lol.

captain_rogers

ItsClobberinTime said:

Oakenshield said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

Haven't done it yet because I'm still waiting for my Void to get awakened unfortunately. But I think you definitely want to intercept while he's below a bar to ramp up to 20 precisions and start spamming specials specifically the sp3 rotation, and then bait sp2s only since it's easy to dex. That's what I plan on doing personally.

As for the reverse control part, regardless I think it's worth getting used to just because endgame content usually tends to have reverse control fights almost always. I use to suck at them before Necropolis but I realized pretty quickly that it's something you absolutely need to get used to because reverse control immune counters won't always be available. If you don't wanna bother with it tho then yeah Moondragon, BRB's just so fast for the fight compared to everyone else, I don't have the kind of patience required to do it with Moonmid lol.

Wong works really well too you just have to set him up once and throw back to back sp3s.

ItsClobberinTime

captain_rogers said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

Oakenshield said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

Haven't done it yet because I'm still waiting for my Void to get awakened unfortunately. But I think you definitely want to intercept while he's below a bar to ramp up to 20 precisions and start spamming specials specifically the sp3 rotation, and then bait sp2s only since it's easy to dex. That's what I plan on doing personally.

As for the reverse control part, regardless I think it's worth getting used to just because endgame content usually tends to have reverse control fights almost always. I use to suck at them before Necropolis but I realized pretty quickly that it's something you absolutely need to get used to because reverse control immune counters won't always be available. If you don't wanna bother with it tho then yeah Moondragon, BRB's just so fast for the fight compared to everyone else, I don't have the kind of patience required to do it with Moonmid lol.

Wong works really well too you just have to set him up once and throw back to back sp3s.

Guess who doesn't have Wong either 🫠

SirGamesBond

ItsClobberinTime said:

Oakenshield said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

Haven't done it yet because I'm still waiting for my Void to get awakened unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/live/WTZxnUlgAAY?si=ajzERr4fJPDzq57l
Maybe, give it a try. @2:40

You got adam? Didn't Emilia nuked him with few revives with adam.

SirGamesBond

R2 sunspot vs bullseye was my revive tax fight in Q2.
I made another mistake by taking r1 og she hulk vs Torch just for adventure. Forgot she gets furies instead of inflicting debuffs. Pointless 4 revives.
Thanos was annoying too 4-5 revives with r1 gamora.

captain_rogers

SirGamesBond said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

Oakenshield said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

Haven't done it yet because I'm still waiting for my Void to get awakened unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/live/WTZxnUlgAAY?si=ajzERr4fJPDzq57l
Maybe, give it a try. @2:40

You got adam? Didn't Emilia nuked him with few revives with adam.

I clicked the link totally expecting to be rickrolled. I feel cheated 🥲.

ItsClobberinTime

SirGamesBond said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

Oakenshield said:

ItsClobberinTime said:

List is almost perfect I don't think I would change a whole lot, some of the options you have are even better than the ones I have (I am one of those unfortunate poor souls that will have to do Enchantress with Ant-Man).

For Dazzler definitely Starky.
For Bullseye I definitely recommend Cyclops, Dazzler is only a great option when you know how to dex his sp1 fully or she's sig 200.
For Dust NTW hands down.
And for DThanos I saw a lot of people go in with Moondragon but I wouldn't recommend it, I'm sure you have a BRB in your roster he is the easiest and best option by far, he shuts down the unstoppable completely and because he has massive bursts you can basically hit the cap and trigger his protections burst after burst it's a very quick fight compared to every other option.

Thanks @ItsClobberinTime - based on what you said I probably will sub in my R2 Cyclops. My Dazzler is only sig 94 and I’m not particularly good at dexing his SP1. What rotation did you use with Cyclops for that fight?

Also thanks for the BRB suggestion but I just suck at the alternating reverse controls so think I’m going to go the safe but slow Moondragon route.

Haven't done it yet because I'm still waiting for my Void to get awakened unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/live/WTZxnUlgAAY?si=ajzERr4fJPDzq57l
Maybe, give it a try. @2:40

You got adam? Didn't Emilia nuked him with few revives with adam.

Hmmm I had no idea unawakened Void worked I might give it a shot fully boosted.

And yeah no Adam either unfortunately.

Oakenshield

OK revised list based on the input I’ve received:
Gorr - Void R3 Sig 1
Dazzler - Stark Spiderman R3 Sig 50
Lady Deathstrike - Medusa R3 Sig 1
Enchantress - Hulk R3 Sig 60
Thor Rags - Hyperion R3 Sig 40
Arcade - Serpent R3 Unawakened
Leader - Photon R3 Sig 66
Bullseye - Cyclops R2 Sig 20
Human Torch - Deathless She Hulk R3 Sig 55
Serpent - American Chavez R3 Sig 60
Spiral - Bullseye R3 Sig 20
Dust - NTW R1 Sig 20
D Thanos - Moondragon R1 Sig 20

Going to spend the next couple of days learning Cyclops, NTW, and Moondragon rotations.

Thanks all

Oakenshield

Knocked this out today. Will say again that I agree with everyone else on this - this content is not fun. If I didn’t need my Serpent dup I wouldn’t be doing it.

The above were definitely the right choices. First three fights in particular were pretty easy with those options. Arcade and Bullseye weren’t fun - definitely invested some revives there - but Cyclops was definitely the right option on that one. Dust was about what I expected with an R1, but NTW did the job with a few revives. The Thanos fight was just super painful - hate to say it but probably used 25-30 revives on that fight given how Moondragon doesn’t hit very hard and I hadn’t learned how to reliably dex Thanos SP1 (I know it now though!).

Glad to be done with this one - hoping what I have heard is true and Quest 3 is the easiest. Will recharge my units and stash and then knock it out.

Ercarret

I also used Serpent vs Arcade, but be sure you know how Arcade works before you do. I pretty much cheesed my way through that fight on my first run since Vox is as close to a hard counter to Arcade that I think we have in the game currently. Serpent is...not that. I found it to be a very tricky fight until I actually learned how to fight Arcade with a less-than-ideal counter. When I did get the hang of it I got a huge chunk out of Arcade's HP in a single revive and was knocked out due to a bad dex when he was at 2%. So Serpent definitely works for the fight. You just gotta be ready for it.

captain_rogers said:

Oakenshield said:

SirGamesBond said:

captain_rogers said:

Moondragon hits like a pillow though. I used r2 still she barely did any damage lol.

Rip r2 baldy.
I got her after wof, so can't even comment. But I have seen enough people use her just to make the boss easy.
Someone posted a 20 minute screenshot right? And died around 5% missing a solo.

Thanks. Yeah I have a hard time ranking her up for just one fight when she doesn’t hit that much harder as an R2. I’ll just spend some time figuring out her rotation to maximize what little damage there is. But good to know she is safe but slow.

And thanks to @captain_rogers for the advice on the other fights. Will definitely do Sparky and Bulleye based on your advice - probably NTW as well even though she is only R1. Guess those last two fights will both be long!

Trust me ntw way better I used pheonix and like, 15 revives. The unblockable on stun makes the fight very tough.

I used Phoenix against Dust to great effect. I think it took me maybe 3 revives, but that was mostly because I messed up towards the end of the fight and then struggled to get into the rhythm again. The trick is to not use your heavy attack unless you specifically need to nullify an armor up buff on Dust. That nerfs your damage, but if you do a couple of Sp1s and then go into an Sp2 you'll still kick off the Cosmic Flame Aura and do some good damage. It's a little tricky, but I think I did 60-70% of Dust's HP in one go.