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Enough is Enough – Card RNG in the July Fantastic Force Is a Rigged Scam!

超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
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I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





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  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    ahmynuts said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Next you'll be saying casinos are rigged.







    Wait a minute-

    Come on,When you open a Relic Crystal, you’ll realize that the relics you get are already predetermined.
    ??? Of course it is. How else would you be given anything out of a crystal if it isnt decided what you would be given
    Obviously, if the system has already decided what you're going to get, then what's the point of having a drop rate at all?
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,621 ★★★★★
    OP - Git gud
    hand
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,097 ★★★★★
    超级无敌杀神 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Next you'll be saying casinos are rigged.







    Wait a minute-

    Come on,When you open a Relic Crystal, you’ll realize that the relics you get are already predetermined.
    ??? Of course it is. How else would you be given anything out of a crystal if it isnt decided what you would be given
    Obviously, if the system has already decided what you're going to get, then what's the point of having a drop rate at all?
    Entertainment value and endorphins releaed from gambling, followed by a crash out.
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,792 ★★★★★
    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 8,500 ★★★★★
    You've obviously never played real poker a day in your life.
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,792 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    JessieS said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
    You are kinda not helping a gambling addict lol.
    How am I a gambling addict ? I am full FTP player and have never spent a single cent on this game unlike the actual addicts here who are spending hundreds and some even thousands of dollars on a mobile game
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,097 ★★★★★
    JessieS said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    JessieS said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
    You are kinda not helping a gambling addict lol.
    How am I a gambling addict ? I am full FTP player and have never spent a single cent on this game unlike the actual addicts here who are spending hundreds and some even thousands of dollars on a mobile game
    Not u....OP ...
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,792 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    JessieS said:

    BringPopcorn said:

    JessieS said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
    You are kinda not helping a gambling addict lol.
    How am I a gambling addict ? I am full FTP player and have never spent a single cent on this game unlike the actual addicts here who are spending hundreds and some even thousands of dollars on a mobile game
    Not u....OP ...
    Fair
  • OgnarOgnar Member Posts: 13 ★
    Show the math, not screenshots.
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,433 ★★★★★
    you win some and you lose some much much much much much much much much more lol.
  • Rayven5220Rayven5220 Member Posts: 3,052 ★★★★★
    Professional poker player and one of the best on the planet, Daniel Negreanu had never had a royal flush in his lifetime of playing poker.

    Do you know how many hands of poker that man has played?

    It isn't rigged, that's not how it works.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 10,097 ★★★★★
    Rayven5220 said:

    Professional poker player and one of the best on the planet, Daniel Negreanu had never had a royal flush in his lifetime of playing poker.

    Do you know how many hands of poker that man has played?

    It isn't rigged, that's not how it works.

    As much as you are right, this is not Poker. It's MCoC's version of video poker, and royal flushes are a lot more common in video poker
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 963 ★★★
    As the late great Kenny Rogers used to say you got to know when to hold em know when to fold em know when to walk away and know when to run you never count your money when your sitting at the table there'll be time enough for countin when the dealins done
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 8,270 ★★★★★
    But there's no table involved with video poker.
    Just a modified and computerized slot machine and rng.
    And the one common thing is, The Tilt.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,714 ★★★★★
    Take a break, that's what I suggest.
  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    JessieS said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
    BringPopcorn said:

    JessieS said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
    You are kinda not helping a gambling addict lol.
    First of all, I’m not a gambling addict. I don’t enjoy this kind of card-based game mode. I play it just like Battlegrounds or Multiverse Arena—with the goal of scoring points to reach milestones and rank rewards.Now that we’re in Week 3, I just want to question the extremely low probability of getting high-value cards, because it has been consistently bad in the first two weeks as well. I’m only posting now, but the pattern has been there all along.I understand the strategy behind this mode—but at the end of the day, everything still comes down to the card RNG. That’s what I’m frustrated about and what I want to bring up.
    To give an example—it’s like opening a Titan Crystal. You might have saved up a ton of crystals and even collected multiple Titan Nexus selectors. But for some reason, even after opening the same crystal 5 or 6 times (or more), you still can’t get the champion you’re aiming for. Is the probability really equal for all champions in a Titan Crystal? I’m not sure. But it’s extremely discouraging.
  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    Abspain101 said:

    As the late great Kenny Rogers used to say you got to know when to hold em know when to fold em know when to walk away and know when to run you never count your money when your sitting at the table there'll be time enough for countin when the dealins done

    I know that. but I play it not for gambling—because for me, it’s simply a process of earning points and progressing through milestones. I have to play the cards to score higher and reach the milestones and rank rewards.
  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    Ognar said:

    Show the math, not screenshots.

    Ognar said:

    Show the math, not screenshots.

    This is a good method, but it requires more time to record and edit the video.
  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    Deacon said:

    you win some and you lose some much much much much much much much much more lol.

    5555,that's why I complain
  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    JessieS said:

    超级无敌杀神 said:

    I am beyond frustrated and deeply disappointed by the utterly ridiculous RNG in the Fantastic Force Recruitment Side Quest during July. I’ve played over 25





    Kpoints in Week 3 alone, spending countless hours grinding, using up energy, and rerolling cards.Despite using resources to reroll, I constantly receive useless, low-value cards with no progression. This is not just “bad luck.” It’s statistically improbable that I keep getting the same terrible cards over and over again.Even after switching cards, I still get garbage. I’ve collected screenshots from many of these runs—and the pattern is undeniable: almost every set of cards is trash-tier. This isn’t just bad luck. It’s statistical nonsense.This kind of outcome feels unfair and rigged, as if the game is pushing me to spend more stars and units to keep playing. This is absolutely not okay.I can feel that the system is intentionally suppressing high-tier cards. It’s clear that the RNG isn’t as random as it should be. This feels like a manipulation of drop rates designed to force players to spend more money on rerolls and energy.The experience is demoralizing. The sense of achievement is gone when all your efforts lead to zero progress, and it’s clear that there’s an ulterior motive.
    If you’ve been experiencing the same frustration, please share your thoughts. This is not a one-off issue. The system is broken and needs to be addressed. Kabam needs to hear us. We should not be forced to pay for a fair experience.





    Do you mean 250k? Because 25 k is nothing and if you are spending units or god forbid actual real money on it welll … maybe the problem is you . In the first week I got over 125k and in the second over 45k and I haven’t spent a single unit . Do I get bad hands ? Sure but I regularly get great hands as well . If your only goal is to get the legend title of course you will constantly get **** . If you play with brains and go for what gives the best points with the highest chances you are much likely to get something better
    In fact, most of us are just trying to get the highest possible score using limited energy. I simply hope to use strategy to earn decent points and claim some rewards—I don’t care about the so-called “Legend” title. But the truth is, the chances of getting a high score feel extremely low.
  • 超级无敌杀神超级无敌杀神 Member Posts: 35 ★
    edited August 1
    Kabam Crashed said:

    It's not rigged. Your success in this mode is relative to other players, why would we rig it for you to score less points?

    If you are having trouble hitting the 10k every week you definitely need to work on your strategy. Hold similar colors and open-ended straights and you will hit 10k very quickly.

    I got more than 300,000 PTS the first two week, and I know the strategy.
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