Are rebirth champions subject to rebalancing/nerfed?

Before I go all out on any of them.

Comments

I would say they're off the table for some time, certainly. Not unless one of them is game-breaking, which is obvious. Anything that is obviously too powerful is subject to adjusting. I don't necessarily see any Champ that falls under that in this batch.

However, in general, all content can be adjusted if needed.

WhatsGoodEnglish

I think Cull is the only one that may be a little concerning but they knew what kind of damage he could do and left him like that anyways so they're probably comfortable with their abilities to make it so he can't just run through all their new content. Mike specifically called him out on stream when he said 9.3 was gated so he couldn't just run through the whole thing. If anyone gets nerfed it'll probably be Voodoo because of his power control

WhisperDARK

None of them will get nerfed. If I'm not mistaken, last nerf we got on a champion (other than "bug fixes") was for Bullseye. No other champion released since January 2024 got any nerfs. Even Serpent didn't get nerfed with our so-called rebalance program, why would any of the rebirth champions do?

They don't nerf their overtuned defenders but release intentionally undertuned attackers to buff so that they can claim that they did something and the program is working. Like Serpent was so overtuned that he could have been nerfed just for his offensive strength and it would have been perfectly justified still. He was found balanced on both ends instead, why even bother at that point?

Also Cull is not game breaking in the slightest, he is not even in the top 5 best attackers released this year. So is Voodoo, his power control may seem broken in a no node scenario but he can't deal with additional power gain as effectively. Psylocke can effortlessly power lock the opponent for the entire fight without worrying about stand your ground, most people hyping up Voodoo for his power steal don't even know what her kit does though.

None of the rebirth champions will get nerfed. Pretty much no new champion released going forward will get nerfed. Old champions like Hercules won't get nerfed either, they'll just remain rarity locked. There are only buffs and bug fixes in this game.

WhatsGoodEnglish

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868046#Comment_2868046

That is true about Psylocke

EdisonLaw

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868049#Comment_2868049

FR we need a psylocke damage buff soon

Herbal_Taxman

if your criticism of voodoo is that he doesn’t handle additional / passive power gain beyond controlling combat power, doesn’t Psylocke have the same limitation? I thought her ability to lock their power only applied to power they would gain from being struck.

WhisperDARK

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868120#Comment_2868120

That's the point, she can't either. Raw power control isn't as strong as most people think considering we get a power gain meta every now and then. Neither Voodoo nor Psylocke can handle external power gain as effectively which is the main problem most metas.

What I'm saying is that if Voodoo's power steal is this big of a deal then why is Psylocke who nobody cares about so worthless comparatively? She literally doesn't even care about energize, sets the power meter to 0 for the whole fight and doesn't even need to worry about stand your ground.

Answer is that neither are as impressive as one might think and its just a little bonus for Voodoo to have that ability for a generic matchup. It adds versatility against poison immune with the power dissolve but that's it. It acts more like a damage source than plain power control which is not that relevant with bgs nodes nowadays. Definitely a nice piece of utility but nothing nerf worthy as the comment above suggested.

Herbal_Taxman

the more you type, the less it seems you know what you’re talking about. Psylocke’s problem is that her power lock doesn’t do anything against MD or any kind of power gain / buff passive. Combat power plus energize is a negligible issue in the game compared to champs with actual power gain from their kits, masteries or nodes. It’s a more fundamental limitation than what voodoo is dealing with. At least his power control applies to all sources of the opponent’s power.

WhisperDARK

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868319#Comment_2868319

You know that most champions dealing with power gain today often do it with some kind of reduction right? Like Nefaria, Chavez, Kushala, Spider-Woman all get to counter power gain nodes with such mechanics.

I'm not even trying to prove Psylocke is good, just saying that Voodoo is not any better when power gain is non-existent. It is still not better than those mentioned above when it comes to power gain matchups, just better than Psylocke in that case but that has nothing to do with my point as I'm not trying to convince that she is equal or better.

Also Voodoo steals a percentage of max power, basically a flat power steal potency. You steal the same amount of power on every hit, probably not enough to prevent Serpent from reaching 3 bars unless you sp3 as well but good luck finishing a bgs fight if that's gonna be the case.

He's just not the power control god you people make him out to be. Just save your titans for Nico and never waste time with Voodoo again, crazy how overhyped those rebirth champions are just because you can get them for free.

And Voodoo's power control doesn't apply to all sources of opponent's power, you don't reduce the power gained from power snack node for example. Like at least do your research before typing, looks ridiculous otherwise.