Who Could the Other Stellar-Forged Champs Be?

So DLL says in his "Spotlight with Context" video for Stellar-Forged Star-Lord that the overall design goal with this run was to offer a "What If" scenario for champs who could've reasonably fit into multiple different classes (ex: Star-Lord could've released as a Skill champ, but they went with Tech instead, so the Stellar-Forged is a Skill version).

So with that mindset, who could the other three champs be, since we know that Doom will be the final champ? Here are my current thoughts:

1. Any Symbiote champion who is not a Cosmic could be changed to that class for parity with that general assumption. That includes:
- Agent Venom
- Anti-Venom
- Symbiote Supreme

While I think this might be too simple of a throughline to use, if I had to pick one of them, I would pick Symbiote Supreme as the best candidate. Anti-Venom's reasoning for being Science is pretty solid in the lore, and Symbiote Supreme seems like they could add some interesting Knull influence (unless "Null's Shadow" is different then "Knull's Shadow" in a younger brother kind of way). Plus he seems the most "50-50" between two classes out of the bunch.

2. I think that any avatars of gods could reasonably become Mystic champions in the same vein as Juggernaut with Cyttorak and White Tiger with the Tiger God. That includes:
- Black Panther (Bast)
- Black Panther Civil War (Bast again)
- Moon Knight (Khonshu)
- Mr. Knight (Khonshu again, though I doubt they would do this version so soon after releasing him)
- Chee'ilth (Brother Grizzly and Sister Eagle, though I'm not clear on the delineation between divine spirits bestowing power and gods bestowing power)
- Killmonger (Bast in the MCU, but also K'Liluna the Betrayer in the comics potentially)
- Jabari Panther (Ghekre, though she might not be a formal avatar)

I was originally going to say Black Panther as my pick in this bunch, but I think it could be Moon Knight as the best way to introduce a Jake Lockley version of the character into the game without having him be one of the two champs in a given month. Khonshu could theoretically be more active in his moveset and kit with Jake as one of Khonshu's four facets from the comics (Pathfinder, Embracer, Defender, and the Watcher of Overnight Travelers).

3. Lastly, there are characters that could potentially be different classes by their nature:
- Dragon Man: Robot, could be Tech
- Sersi or Ikaris: "Synthetic beings" in the MCU, so could be Tech, but a bit of a stretch
- Karnak: Famously uses two different class catalysts to rank up, so a Cosmic version is surely possible
- Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver: The classic debate of "Mutant or not" could lend to a Mutant version of either of these two
- Sasquatch: Tanaraq could take a backseat and the Gamma radiation could drive this champ to the Science class
- Kamala Khan: With the current comics making her a Mutant as originally designed (before corporate quirkiness led to her being an Inhuman), this could be a good way to add a Mutant Stellar-Forged champ

Despite all of these, I would genuinely bet at least a dollar that the best champ to pick in this category would be Green Goblin. It would be the perfect way to reference and "correct" the snafu that came from his release. So many people clowned on the decision to make him Tech, and the decision from Kabam to make him the boss of 5.3.6 (the Science chapter, when every other chapter has a boss of the same class it highlights) only reinforced that they knew what they were doing. This would be the perfect time to focus on the Goblin Formula and how it altered Norman inside and out, as well as cheekily reference MCOC history.

If there are other champs I missed or champs you think have a stronger case than my three picks, let me know. I really like the design directive Kabam took with the Stellar-Forged champions and I'm interested to see who gets added.

Comments

Suckmysigma

Agent venom could go cosmic, any black panther could go mystic. I like your idea though, sounds very interesting given how some champs feel like they just slapped stuff together

Dr. Crab

I could see Symbiote Spider-Man being here some where. Fan favorite for sure (I’m not sure how the younger players feel about him, but he was super cool in the 90’s) and could definitely use a reimagining.

spiderknight616

I feel like mutant Kamala is gonna happen. Neither Deathless nor Eidols have had a mutant, and from the existing characters only Kamala makes sense to be class shifted to mutant.

CheeseMaster482

Stellar Forged Green Goblin incoming if that's the case

Rookiie

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/408082/stellar-forged-champion-predictions

BattleWarriar

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2919447#Comment_2919447

You don't think QS or SW could be shifted to mutant? Witch definitely has more mysticism but I think they both fit the mutant class being children of magneto

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2919447#Comment_2919447

There are so many champions that could be class shifted to mutant that this comment is actually hilarious

SummonerNR

(quote)
- Karnak: Famously uses two different class catalysts to rank up, so a Cosmic version is surely possible

So, would they dare make the new Cosmic Karnak version be a “Dual Class Rankup” champ also 😀
Or possible go back and “adjust” existing Skill version to ONLY need Skill Cats then ?

spiderknight616

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2919465#Comment_2919465

Who? Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Juggernaut are the only ones that come to mind but Ms Marvel is **** and is long overdue for an update

GilbertoJunior

I still hoping for science Lab Ultron with Golden skin as reference to Age of Ultron comics with Immunity to buff removal

Magrailothos

Deathless champs have:

Cosmic, Cosmic, Mystic, Tech, Science

Eidols have:

Mystic, Skill, Tech, Cosmic

So, I'd say Mutants are long overdue a Kabam-special release.

Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch are good options.

HuskerCool

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2919483#Comment_2919483

For a game where the multiverse is so pivotal, couldn’t they just state character [x] is from a universe where they were born with powers that manifested around puberty and they have the x-gene? For instance, a Peter Parker that is born with spider-related powers. Or a Peter Parker that has a completely different power set.

Xleb

To be honest, not all of your assumptions make sense, because you don’t even try to somehow connect this with the fact that Isophyne doesn't just give Eidol's technology to any random champion, but chooses based on his own motives. Like, she literally chose Star-Lord because he's the Lord of the Stars. Also, I can't believe you didn't mention Yellowjacket (science -> tech), because he's the most obvious and logical class transition (if you don't pay attention to the methods of choosing Isophyne)

spiderknight616

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2919491#Comment_2919491

Because the lore of the Stellar Forged champs says that they're the result of Isophyne enhancing them with Eidol technology. Star Lord became a skill champ because Isophyne enhanced his human half.

HuskerCool

Ok, maybe Scarlet Witch’s x-gene is dormant for whatever reason, and Isophene ‘activates’ it

Ninexblue

Praying for the Moon Knight mystic version. Such a cool character in the comics…

WednesdayLength

Its also worth keeping in mind that star lord isn't just skill now because he could in a lore sense, pretty much all of his base abilities were those that aligned with what the skill class has become which i would argue is the same for Doom with cosmic. Its probably worth looking at champions whose abilities would align with a different class

Anotherconcernplayer

I just hope we get one of each class. Still wish we got a Deathless Mutant or Skill instead of dup Cosmic.

1toxic_cupcake

yelow jacket in tech

altavista

The "What If" scenario seems more about their abilities in game with lore being a bonus. So #1 and #2 don't really fit that logic since their kits don't make you think of a different class.

Star Lord fits as a Skill because his combo meter focus fits the Skill class. Those Symbiote champions you listed don't have a Cosmic/buff focus, and those other champions don't have Mystic type abilities.

I do think for #3, Kamala makes sense from both a kit and lore perspective. Her kit already focuses on stacking buffs (Fury) and doing specials; changing the buff from Fury to Prowess would be easy way to make her a Mutant class champion.

Quicksilver makes sense from a Lore perspective, but because Northstar exists, I don't really think there would be a design space for a Mutant Quicksilver.

My thought:

Iron Fist makes sense as a Cosmic (already has an armor break focus). Give him a pulverize (which also fits with the idea of him punching), and he's there as a Cosmic who counters the Tech champions.

summerdeer

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2919672#Comment_2919672

i feel like if they wanted to do mutant scarlet witch would be better cuz she already focuses on prowes