With less tickets earnable, will raid cost go down?

NBK1999

Since we are now only getting **maybe** two weeks of regular aq each month, that severely limits the amount of tickets that we are able to earn playing AQ Map 6 and above.

Are we going to see a reduction either in the amount of tickets it costs to enter Raids every month, or a decrease of the value of other resources (glory, battlegrounds tokens, loyalty, etc) that are required to buy the entry tickets? Honestly a large portion of glory goes to raid tickets to begin with and decreasing the amount of tickets we can earn on top of that will increase the overall cost of raids every month.

I don’t want to see us getting back to the point where the time/resource investment to play aq is so bad that it’s not even worth anymore (remember when regular aq maps cost entry tickets?)

Don’t know if I should tag any of the community team but I’d love an answer.

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NBK1999

fwiw I did the math on how much glory it’d take to supplement 180 tickets for my alliance a few years ago, here’s the math I came up with.

“Raid cost math (calculated on a per-player basis. assumes each BG 100%'s their aq map every day):

cost of raids - 180 tickets

Map 8:
8 tickets/day * 4 days/cycle = 32 tickets/cycle
32 tickets/cycle * 3 nonraid cycles = 96 tickets
180 - 96 tickets = 84 tickets that need to be bought

Map 6:
6 tickets/day * 4 days/cycle = 24 tickets/cycle
24 tickets/cycle * 3 nonraid cycles = 72 tickets
180 - 72 tickets = 108 tickets that need to be bought

Cost of 1 ticket by resource:
Incursion Artifacts - 1000
Loyalty - 2000
Units - 8
USD - $0.20 (please for the love of all things holy do not spend money to buy tickets)
Glory - 75 (Glory is the most resource efficient way to buy tickets)

Cost of makeup tickets (assumes use of glory):
Map 8 - 84 tickets/3 cycles * 75 glory/ticket = 6300 glory/3 cycles
Map 6 - 108 tickets/3 cycles * 75 glory/ticket = 8100 glory/3 cycles

We earn 5600 glory per non-raid week * 3 non-raid weeks = 16800 glory.
Excluding the glory we earn via raid week:
Map 8 - 6300 / 16800 = 37.5% of their non-raid glory on raids.
Map 6 - 8100 / 16800 = 48.2% of their non-glory on raids.

We earn (my memory might be incorrect here) 7500 glory on raid weeks + 16800 = 24300 glory total.
Including the glory we earn via raid week:
Map 8 - 6300 / 24300 = 26% of total glory on raids
Map 6 - 8100 / 24300 = 33% of total glory on raids”

captaincush

You were buying Raids tickets a few years ago? Stocking up for when Raids were added to the game? That's some 4d chess

MrSakuragi

Should be free, these rewards aren’t worth paying for

Abaddonexe

@captaincush Raids have been in the game for 2 years, now.

captaincush

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2924162#Comment_2924162

Even so, by definition a few is greater than two, so my joke still stands

Scythe_786

@captaincush a few can be 2😉

PotatoFamine

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2924164#Comment_2924164

well if you want to be technical, a few is defined as "a small number of" which last i checked 2 was pretty small.

and if you wanna be even more technical, the definition of a joke is something that is funny and your attempt was not so you're 0/2 right now

captaincush

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2924167#Comment_2924167

Pretty sure most people would call that a couple. Also, I wasn't trying to derail the thread as I agree with OP about the reduced availability of tickets, just making a silly joke

PotatoFamine

off topic responses aside, the actual economy around raid ticket cost does deserve looking into

Squidopus

When you say that Raid tickets are reduced on account of only having two regular weeks of AQ a month, are you referring to the new Rampant Evolution event as one of AQ replacements? Because that doesn’t cut into Raid Ticket gain, Kabam has already stated that it will award high-tier AQ map rewards, including tickets.

From the Event overview in the Announcements section.

Scythe_786

@captaincush all good lol, i found it funny haha

NBK1999

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2924176#Comment_2924176

That is true, but the weeks where we do alliance coliseum still leave us short a week’s worth of tickets. Enough where it’s still worth an investigation and potential rebalance imo.

Zski33

NBK is talkin' 'bout raid tickets. Not 4D chess. Not the raid tickets that he goes out there and plays for and treats each ticket like it's his last. Not about raid tickets, but we talkin' 'bout 4D chess, man.

NBK1999

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2924188#Comment_2924188

never watched the show but I get the reference lol

Squidopus

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2924187#Comment_2924187

Nah that’s fair, I just forgot about AQ Coliseum. Only things that were coming to mind when I wrote that were Raids itself and the new RE thing.

For the record, I am also of the fairly common opinion that Raids don’t really justify the entry cost and that Raid tickets should just be scrapped.

arifin74

Damn, how calculative you are!

Our alliance casually play all, no 100% AQ, no raid ticket. No issues with raid.

I don't buy tickets with glory or artifact. Neither play solo raid. The weekly alliance event alone have more than enough resources to for raid tickets with loyalty.