Why can’t endgame content work like Crucible so we can still do other quests congruenrly?

With the new Carina challenges sending us back into Epoch of Pain + Ares in gauntlet form, I think this is a fair question.

One of the main reasons I dread content like Necropolis or long gauntlets isn’t even the difficulty, it’s the fact that once I’m in, I’m locked out of everything else (aside from Arena/BG).

So while I’m doing endgame content, I can’t:
• do my Daily Super Event
• do daily quests
• progress side/event quests
• complete routine objectives like solo raids

That just feels ridiculously outdated!

We already have a system that solves this: Crucible.
It’s long and demanding, but you can still go and do other quests alongside it.

So why doesn’t this apply to all endgame content?

I’m not asking to run multiple endgame quests at once.
I’m asking why we can’t have one long run active, while still being able to do normal content around it.

For example:
• I’m doing Necropolis or the new Epoch gauntlet
• but I can still dip into EQ, side quest, or daily quests etc

Because realistically, not everyone can sit down for 3–5+ hours straight. People want to dip in and out, not feel punished for having a life outside the game.

And this Carina challenge is a big ask:
• Epoch of Pain was already top-end difficulty
• now it’s a full gauntlet
• and it has to be done twice (#hero / #villain)

That’s an absolutely huge time commitment.

If I’ve missed something and this is being changed, fair enough, I’m happy to be corrected.

But if not, this feels like a basic QoL update that should already exist in 2026. It would make endgame content more accessible and far less stressful.

And yes, AI has been talked about enough, but it matters here too. If long runs are already stressful due to inconsistent AI, players shouldn’t also be penalised for stepping away and coming back later, or risk missing daily/weekly objectives just because they can’t finish everything in 24–48 hours.

So to conclude, my the question is:

Why can’t all endgame content use a Crucible-style system where one run stays active, but you can still play the rest of the game alongside it?

I’d be interested to hear what others think, because this feels like something that should already be in the game. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Comments

D1Racer

I wholeheartedly second this idea.

Yodabolt21

the reason is so that you can’t farm revives if your stuck on a fight.

ST4RL0RD08

But that point isn’t really relevant at all because;

1) I can still “farm revives” while doing crucible quests which are arguably harder as they require a larger roster to complete.

2) That said, revive farming doesn’t really even exist anymore in game. The only in fame “revive farm” (if you can call it that given how inconsistent it is) is the back issues spiderman quest and that is literally being permanently removed in 6 days so there will be no more revive farming available in game AT ALL past that point.

3) I can still complete the daily super event whilst doing necropolis or epic, which gives me a revive, a large potion and 3 crystals which drop revives and potions (it’s just more tedious and restrictive as I either have to level champs or do arena/BG.)

4) we get access to 2 revives per day for free, so trying to purely revive your way through the whole of necropolis with only 2 revives per day without any effort or skill would take forever anyway

5) Kabam have even openly said that revives and potions are not a major revenue source for them anymore and the game has moved away from that revenue model. This isn’t 2016 anymore, and the game needs to adapt to people’s schedules and styles of playing.

The revive farming argument just doesn’t stack. You can still get revives and potions regardless, and this all-or-nothing set up simply restricts the player base unnecessarily and puts people off doing end game content. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Rayven5220

Because you're not meant to be able to do everything at once.

If you wanna do EQ, do it.

If you wanna do some solo raids, go for it.

If you wanna do end game content, then either set aside some time to do so, or sacrifice the couple revives you'll get from the daily quest.

I don't understand why people are so up in arms about not being able to do 5 things at once.

There nothing in that daily quest that's gonna put your acct behind even if you miss it for a few days because you're taking your time doing everest content.

D1Racer

This is actually a huge reason I don't do much end game content unless necessary. I don't have time to sit there and do it all in one go. Work, Family etc.

For example, I took 4 days to do the Hero Ordeal challenge. During those 4 days I missed out on the Daily Quests and DSE. I have yet to start any of the other challenges yet because of this, I need to find the time to do these.

And to be honest, if I got stuck in these quests I'm not going to go farm a couple of level 1 or 2 revives. I'm more likely to purchase decent revives with units or in the store.

XxLoOhNuTiCkxX

This almost screwed me. Over the weekend I was camping at Abyss Collector for the villain challenge. I went to do solo raids (my second time doing those ever) for the Essentia event. Me thinking solo raids were a seperate mode like AQ and Arena, my heart almost dropped when I almost clicked to leave my current quest, which was Abyss. I feel like the solo raids should be a whole different thing.

ST4RL0RD08

But that’s not really what I’m asking for though.

I’m not trying to “do 5 things at once,” I’m asking why I have to completely lock myself out of the rest of the game just to attempt one piece of long-form content, when we already have a system (Crucible) that proves it doesn’t need to work like that.

A couple of points:

This isn’t about “doing everything at once,” it’s about flexibility and time management.
Not everyone can sit down for 3–5+ hours straight to push a full run. People dip in and out of content.

2. Saying “just sacrifice the daily stuff” is kind of missing the point.
Why should players have to choose between:

progressing endgame content
OR engaging with the rest of the gam

…when there’s no real reason they can’t do both?

3. Crucible already allows this exact behaviour.
So the game clearly can support long-form content while letting you do other quests at the same time.

4. The issue isn’t that missing a few revives will “put you behind.”
It’s that the system feels unnecessarily restrictive for no real benefit. Moreover F2P players which make up the vast majority of the playerbase already have limited ways to get easy units and revives, so why is there yet another unnecessarily restriction.

It’s not about trying to do everything at once, it’s about not being forced into an all-or-nothing setup for content that can take hours (or multiple sessions) to complete. Literally one session open in long form (I.e APOC or Necro) and then you can also do something else too like your solo raid or daily quests. We can already access BG and Arena to complete the DSE it’s just more tedious and time consuming and isn’t that what MCOC is trying (albeit unsuccessfully) to steer away from? Excessive grind?

Long form content is such a mammoth task as it is and If anything, judging from the replies above, it’s clear that giving players the ability to step away and come back while still engaging with the rest of the game would probably make more people want to attempt this content in the first place.

Ourobøros

It's a good idea, BUT.

You can still do Super Daily with BG and leveling up

Flavyjay

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2943292#Comment_2943292

My ally officer actually quit too thankfully he submitted a ticket lol

ST4RL0RD08

That’s what I said above, you can still complete the DSE and get your daily revive it’s just way more tedious.

But that’s not my point, my point is that whilst doing these huge pieces of endgame content that for most people require more than just one sitting (both from a mental standpoint and also from a time standpoint,) I’m locked out of doing my:

Daily unit Quest
Weekly Quest (if you can’t get the 4 tickets required to enter as a result)
Solo raid
Daily Gold quest
Side quest/Event quest
General testing and gameplay in other maps

I’m effectively locked out of the rest of the game just because I’m trying to complete endgame content and that just feels way too restrictive and doesn’t feel good.

This APOC gauntlet is probably going to take the average player 2-3+ days to complete if not longer PER RUN and we have to do two runs. That means the average player at a minimum will miss out on:

6x Daily quests of 15 units
Potentially 2x 70 unit weekly quests
6x solo raid milestones and XP tokens
6x Daily gold quests

just because they want to do the endgame content. We already have a concept in game that allows for flexibility (Crucible,) so why is this not the case for all long form content?

Graves_3

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2943273#Comment_2943273

OP never mentioned anything about doing everything at once. If they let us chose to do 1 long form content and stay in it while doing other content, people may choose to do 1-2 fights per week and actually be able to enjoy content which they normally wouldn’t if it’s locking them out of other content.

Buttehrs

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2943408#Comment_2943408

Those 2-3 days of endgame content will reward you with far more than missing said days of dailies and dse. Thats why.

Vanitelia

Doesn't hurt anyone to have it be like crucible. The revive farming was just one of the reasons we were locked out of other content. The other was to prevent people from using the same 3-5 champions to clear everything. Happy middle ground would be to lock the 5 champs that are being used in the quest while allowing access to other game modes.

Just because the rewards are far better shouldn't trivialize the other parts of the game.

XxLoOhNuTiCkxX

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2943366#Comment_2943366

Did that actually work? Didn't know you could submit a ticket for something like that.

Fit_Fun9329

yes baby!

Usagicassidy

Yeah I was in the middle of my Ordeal run and wasn't able to complete Saturday night and Sunday had so much going on that I wasn't able to finish the Ordeal until Monday morning, meaning I had to miss out on the entire Sunday Weekly event which gives the really good account boosting rewards. You should AT LEAST be able to do Daily's/weekly no matter what other content you're in.