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Loyalty and war potions

Pleyer

I wanted to talk about war potions. Considering that champion health pools have increased significantly in the last 2 years and now that the new weekly event has no loyalty , wars are less sustainable alltogether . The ammount of loyalty you get from winning a war is not enough to fully heal one r4 and if you loose you get even less. This is a problem in higher ranks as you need to heal more. With the new weekly alliance event being about alliance items would it be possible to add war potions or considering the item depreciation to readjust their price at the loyalty store ?

Comments

ahmynuts

They don't care bruh

BringPopcorn

Don't give em ideas.... They are going to increase the "Alliance Help" cap to 10k points daily but leave each help at 100 points....

DNA3000

It is unlikely, and you probably have me to blame.

War is actually infinitely sustainable nowadays, and that's because war revives are a) free and b) do not count against item use limits. So you can revive your champs however much you want and never run out of items to put your champs back into the fight.

There is a specific logic to why this happened, because it wasn't always like this. War revives used to be very expensive and limited in the number you can use, but the argument was made that revives should not count against item limits and should not cost players a lot because revive usage doesn't strongly affect who wins the war. If you're reviving, you're dead, and you've lost an attack bonus. Reviving just allows you to continue to actually participate. This distinguishes them from health potions which do strongly affect who wins the war because they affect scoring. If you are allowed to heal health back, this prevents dying rather than recovers from dying. Health potions essentially allow a player to buy attack bonuses in theory, which is a direct pay to win mechanism. Revives don't, because the alliance that is using more revives is almost certainly also scoring fewer points, at least in competitive war.

That logic was persuasive enough for Kabam to make revives basically free (to the surprise of literally everyone). But that same logic would also argue against making health potions more available. And the person who convinced them to do this with that logic was me. So I get credit for free revives, but I might also deserve the blame for perennially expensive health potions.

This line of thought doesn't mandate never changing war health potions at all, to be fair. But it does imply that the cost of a health potion should have little to do with how much health player attackers have, and everything to do with how much should it cost a player to steal an attack bonus from their opponents in war. What is an attack bonus worth to a high tier war alliance in a competitive war? What would you pay to simply add points to your score, because when it comes to top tier alliance war players, that is what health potions do. They do not need much help to eliminate all their deaths for the most part.

It is also a potentially dangerous thing to try to argue that health potions should be much more readily available and useful. Any argument for doing so might undermine the reason why revives are free. And I cannot imagine a more hated person in the MCOC community than the person who manages to make war revives expensive again. They'd have to join a witness protection program.