Am I doing something wrong with Gentle?

I mean I’ve got him at R4, not max sig but would be on the way, magneto relic, special damage stat focus, and he just doesn’t hit hard enough

Special 1 to ramp up muscle mass into 13 daunted SP2 and he was doing 23k crits? I thought daunted bypasses Yelenas attack rating cap nonsense, at least to the point where I would be doing “full” damage on a special 2?

I don’t even think the echo damage is the problem here, his on hit damage is just awful!

Am I missing something or doing something wrong? He hasn’t underperformed like this for me in the past, but once I’ve had silver samurai ranked up I’ve barely used him for Yelena at all. Is the special 3 rotation better for Yelena (I.e he no longer is a viable BG specific Yelena counter)

I was considering using the 9.4 sig stones on him and potentially chasing an ascension + possible future rank up, but I don’t think that’s really on the cards any more, unless I am doing something woefully wrong

Comments

Squidopus

Gentle just isn’t that good into Yelena specifically. A lot of people make the mistake of seeing that Onslaught and DPX handle Yelena with Daunted no problem and think any Daunted completely shuts her down but that’s not true.

Daunted only raises Yelena’s dumb Attack Rating cap from 60% (always cutting your damage) to 100%. To DPX, Onslaught, and Silver Samurai, being locked to 100% of their starting Attack does nothing in a normal fight because they have no methods of increasing their Attack Rating beyond the starting value anyways*. Gentle, however, increases his Attack a lot via Muscle Mass, and being locked to 100% of his starting Attack nullifies all of those Attack bonuses, so Gentle’s damaged is significantly gimped. His other mechanics means that Gentle can still be decent, or at least better than like 99% of champions into Yelena, but he’s not completely immune to Yelena’s brand of BS.

*Being locked to their starting Attack does matter in scenarios where there’s outside sources of Attack Rating bonuses present, usually nodes. See BG metas like Invade, Power Shield, or… the current Run and Gun one. Daunted champs like Gentle and DPX don’t benefit from any of these Attack-boosting nodes while Yelena is in Observation mode.

CandyCane2

make him ur first r6 and I’ll give u a cookie

Sachhyam257

5* or 6* Gambit relic helps with some extra red dmg on his sp2. But yeah overall, that's about it for him. As @Squidopus mentioned, it does still cap his attack rating at 100%, but I'd like to add that Yelena's sig also caps his crit dmg at 50% in observation mode at sig200, which is another hurdle for gentle that dpx, ons, and cassandra don't face (they rely more on neuro/bleed DOT than special attack hit dmg like gentle).