Is BG participation really that bad?

I just got into GC and won a match, at 17 points I'm all the way up in Gamma II with 3 days to go in the season. This was the case last time too. Has participation dropped that much?

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SirGamesBond

The same 1000 or so people are playing. Rest are just doing objectives.

Penzito

Have been asking them for nearly a year to revamp the Bg ally rewards, but they are fine with deadgrounds. As a former BG ally, we no longer even ask for any minimums. Reaching 200 points in time for radiance means you have to generally be in low M2 / high M3 these days.

Rudolph_Raindeer

It is a REALLY bad part or MCOC.

Been playing since December 2014 and done everyone ever been available on MCOC including BGs until at least GC. This is the first season I am not doing it - and hereby first time ever I am not finishing content in MCOC.

And yes: I have also finished 9.4 and Carina’s and become Elder.

lucianxvs

I barely dragged myself to complete this victory track, the nodes were just boring this month, nothing unique, I just won one match in GC and let it be

JESUSCHRIST

DON'T THROW ME BACK TO DIAMOND 5 EVERY SEASON START

I got to GC many days ago, played 1 match and won, was at Arcane and camped, now at Gamma, playing unranked for essentia objectives bcos it's risk free way to get essentia without risking radiance rewards

ahmynuts

Yes it really is that bad. In the first two weeks a single win got you arcane 2

JESUSCHRIST

https://cocpit.org/battlegrounds/leaderboard/?season=37

This website allows you to search names and show who is in GC

I search some names and they are not in GC, shows that many players are not playing to get to GC since the season is almost ending

VanillaCoke

Keep in mind things only got worse because top battlegrounds players like AndrewTheRuff, Liam, and especially Bero retired. Some would say Bero was the main reason people continued to play battlegrounds throughout the season because the thinking is “if he’s playing, then others are too — which means I can find a match more easily”

SirGamesBond

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948618#Comment_2948618

There is no lack of competition or matches at the top... those guys are still pushing at their usual pace. Andy never played every day, liam never played every day, it's only bero who played everyday, every hour, every minute.

The empty URU ranks has nothing to do with the podium pushers leaving. The large part of the players arnt even bothered with Bgs at this point.

SirGamesBond

Top 1000 gets meaningful radiance. Rest are sprinkled with it. Spenders don't care about pushing. They can get much more with spending compared to the measly 75k radiance at Quantum and below.

Ragnarok13

idk how to reply on here but thats smart to do unranked for objectives. Did think of that. Made it to 47 point with 2 lucky wind and have been parked for weeks

NoahSansman

I'm an elder player and I'm diamond 3 right now. The victory track is such a slog, it just feels like I'm throwing my time away when people don't quit out because they're guaranteed to lose anyway. In the past 16 matches, I haven't lost a single round.

I guess if I wanted it to be competitive, I'd have to push GC early. But other commitments prevent me from doing that and just as a whole I've lost interest in the mode.

Bugmat78

I make GC every single season but I really don't like BGs so I do the minimum. Elder - day 1 in case anyone wants to know the kind of roster I have. I probbaly don't have the drive for versus game modes I dunno, but BGs is my least favourite mode. I prefer AW, even though it is costly where BGs costs nothing.

I remember when one win/ 1 loss meant you moved nowhere so I think that change was good, but I think I still hate the penalty of losing and maybe that's it. Feels like a waste of time when you do lose or go on a streak of losses.

ahmynuts

I love the guys coming to this thread asap as soon as a comment is posted to downvote it lol.

The long and short of it is that kabam absolutely refuses to do any meaningful changes to battlegrounds and cannot bring themselves to accept any suggestions from the community to make the mode better. Instead they'd rather f around and do random changes and see what works and what doesnt even though the results are obvious even on paper.

The community and the ccp has been trying to help kabam with battlegrounds for years now but they obviously dont want help. They apparently want players to be disinterested and leave.

Krooks

GgGgs BGs

spiderknight616

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948621#Comment_2948621

Yeah, it's just a lot less people getting into GC overall.

GhostSpawned

Mini-Rant: This is the last time for a while that I will be grinding BGs and it is purely to get magik and her rank up materials. BGs has gotten me so angry with how much hate I get every time I go up against your Serpent, Dark Phoenix, Photon, etc. I actually like fighting them in other content like alliance war or pieces of content like wheel of fate because you can plan in advance and it becomes a good and FUN and ENJOYABLE challenge. But most of the time in BGs it feels like I'm fighting a losing battle when the opponent selects a defender and I don't have a very specific counter. My point is if BGs wasn't as important as it is, I don't think we're having conversations about how much we HATE getting and fighting difficult and annoying defenders. This maybe controversial, but I think lowering the rewards and importance in BGs would make the game so much more fun for everyone. That's just one solution I'm offering. Like everyone else, I wish Kabam would do something to make BGs less infuriating and more fun.

MrSakuragi

Forcing the mode to be played next season with a Blade piece in rewards. Other than that, people have given up on it except for a few

Deacon

When they opened the Whale Gates in a mode like this it became exponentially less fun coupled with the STUPID metas sometimes. And then it's the reward tokens for wins/losses ... and then it's the matchmaking and then and then and then ... there are a LOT of things wrong with this mode. My main gripe is the failure to fix the controls especially in a competitive mode .. failure to stop the cheats ... who wants to lose because the game crashes out, controls don't work, heavy won't work , random dashes in and outs etc. Having a competitive mode when controls are shat just increases the problem. And ON TOP OF ALL THAT it's just whales running rampant in your matchmaking algorithm. Same old whales placing the same old places enjoying the same hoarding of resources. Why would a casual player want to participate in a furthering of the competition gap?

I don't know how they rebound on this mode but most of the players I know get to GC, one match and call it a day. The grind to even get to GC is enough to just not bother.

BringPopcorn

Uh funny.. their top money spending incentivizing game mode becomes less and less attractive... I wonder why

Newman0067

You rank up your favourite marvel characters, or you rank up to play bgs. Unfortunately in a game mode such as battlegrounds, you cant do both.

NoahSansman

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948687#Comment_2948687

Not even. It's just stale and boring. People overstate the p2w advantage in battlegrounds. I mean, the guy who is Celestial 1 right now is either f2p or a light spender. You CAN compete at the very top f2p a lot better than most other games.

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948700#Comment_2948700

The nodes have been **** for the past 2 seasons, there is no skill involved, node understanding or attacker/defender advantage. All you gotta do is know how to intercept and have an AI that somewhat cooperates. Of course it wouldn't be interesting or attractive to a lot of people, specially when the rewards are archaic, and to make things worse the Essentia fiasco makes you wonder if you are earning less than what you used to earn to spend in a store that is completely outdated with price discrepancies.

CheeseMaster482

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948700#Comment_2948700

Well even if Slashed is f2p, he is in one of the top alliances in the game getting hundreds of thousands of radiance a month. The average f2p is never going to achieve that. Most of these top alliances are all gatekept too. You could be better than half the alliance but still never get in since they are grandfathered in.

willrun4adonut

No way this should be a winning match in Arcane, but yet, here I am, due to no one playing BG (I hate BG too, but have to place in Arcane to have enough radiance for Magik)

NoahSansman

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948708#Comment_2948708

Slashed has about 1k more prestige than me. I am f2p and don't play battlegrounds or war, so I don't get much radiance. Now, that's not to say getting allat radiance isn't helpful. It definitely is. It just may not be quite the deciding factor you perceive it to be.

On getting into masters alliances, you really don't need to be grandfathered in. You just need to be socialable. You could be the best player in the game, but if you're super shy and don't talk to anyone, you probably won't have much luck. Now if that's what you mean, you're right. They are gatekept, just like anything else in life. Do alliance leaders not have the right to decide who they want in their ally? Sure the game is about winning, but it's about community too.

SpyderFam

I am F2P and currently in C6 which is what I need to get Magik.

I do worry about my future in BGs however due to the new paywalled ascension champions like Ruby and the Collectives points applying in all game modes including BGs.

But the nice thing about being F2P is, I never wasted money on this game so I don't have any bitterness about it.

If monetization makes it impossible for me to compete at a high level in BGs moving forward, I can decide to either change my expectations or play a different game in my free time.

JhonST33

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948618#Comment_2948618

Worse for who, I mean if I win 3 or 4 matches and I'm at arcane 3 for me is a win, or do you rather to reach more than 100 points just to place in gamma IV?.

For me that kind of grind was killing BG's.

Wasy1

It is so time consuming, should be 1 fight match instead of best of 3

HuskerCool

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2948726#Comment_2948726

I doubt this would speed things up as much as you think