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Towers Information and Q&A

Kabam Crashed

Hello all. I have seen a few questions/misconceptions about Towers so I thought I would start a thread and clarify a few things. I will also do my best to answer any questions people have (though it may not be until tomorrow as I'm going to the soccer game today, go Canada!)

All of the Towers in game right now are permanent and progress never resets. We do have plans to add Event Towers that are not permanent and do not add to Tower Rating but those do not yet exist
The Radiance event will repeat and pay out regularly. Yes it's absolutely a grind to get up to near your ceiling in all 6 Class Towers, but that progress is permanent and will net you ranked rewards for as long as you play MCoC.
While the Challenge Towers currently in game are all doable right now, we intend to add Challenge Towers that are more similar to Class Towers in that they are something to work towards rather than something that can be 100% at launch. Some will probably be skill checks, some will probably be RPG checks etc. This should add to granularity in ranked rewards. We are really excited about the design space Towers opens up.
Two more Class Towers will be released next week and the final two the following week.

Post your questions and I will answer them as best I can.

Comments

NARWH4L

Why did we have to start so far down to grind our way through meaningless rewards? It's just painful.

My roster is hardly small, yet I am looking at level 85 wondering if I will get through. 84 was a pretty solid test. And yet, the rewards for clearing 84 are almost entirely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Why don't the rewards match the challenge? If my roster is being tested, I should be getting rewards that recognize it.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964369#Comment_2964369

We didn't want to make the same mistake we did with adaptive EQ, in which we learned there was a very large group of casual players that are unable to complete content with the same proficiency as our most engaged players. We didn't want a situation where one of these players with suboptimal rank ups got stuck really soon after entering the mode.

In terms of the rewards the intent was always for the primary rewards of Class Towers to be the regular ranked reward payouts. To be honest personally I'm not even paying attention to what is earned from the blocks, I see this grind as an investment into my account's future.

Rebark

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/416552/towers-information-and-q-a

Why are the rewards in room 92 lower than those in room 88?

NARWH4L

Another question -

Multiple players have brought up energy disappearing. I just experienced it myself. Entered a fight with two energy remaining, lost once, boom out of energy. Is the team aware of or discussing the issue?

NARWH4L

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964370#Comment_2964370

I can appreciate an investment in the future, the problem is towers isn't actually on pace to accomplish that from what can be seen to this point. Players are going to need to rely on rewards outside of towers to progress in towers to earn rewards that are lagging behind what their account needs to continue progressing in towers. Unless this snowball is about to become a mountain, there's just no way to see how towers become an investment.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964375#Comment_2964375

Yes this is a known bug that results when you push the "Next" to enter the next fight more than once. The team is investigating.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964375#Comment_2964375

This I don't know, I will ask the economy team and get back to you.

MrNoname

Am I supposed to lose all of my entry keys just for one loss? I had 10 keys, but I decided to test a 6* ascended AA with a 150 challenge rating. To my surprise, he couldn’t deal any damage to an enemy with a 210 challenge rating, it’s ok so I just let myself get KO’d. To my shock, I found out that all 10 of my keys were gone! (Instead of one) What a joke. This part is not OK. ( tested in mutant towers)

The masteries loadout also doesnt work. You need to change it on main masteries page with units to make it has effect on towers.

MrSakuragi

Why is it such a long wait for keys to replenish (5 days)? Will this be the standard or is it tied to the launch event specifically?

ButtonMasher3000

Game constantly crashes for me. So lost 5 keys yesterday just from that. Not even really trying Challenge Towers because of that. Also, Limited entries through things like keys and a week long wait to try again definitely kills the buzz of trying to enjoy or test a mode that is totally brand new and takes times to warm up to.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964382#Comment_2964382

You losing entries is very likely due to the bug I mentioned above related to hitting the "Next" button more than once.

If your Mastery loadout isn't working try a restart, I have seen a few reports of this and that appears to clear it up.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964384#Comment_2964384

I believe they refresh once a week, and that will be the cadence moving forward. Once you are near your ceiling in Class Towers that should be more than enough to try to push a bit every week.

Deku7

I get that damage is based on the CR difference, but do boosts help increase your damage (and health?)

Woodsjr

Why can't we preview the block rewards? It's a grindy but fun event. But we should be able to preview the rewards to determine if moving up is really worth the grind

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964388#Comment_2964388

Boosts do not work in Towers

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964394#Comment_2964394

This is on our V2 feature list, along with the ability to go back and view/replay Towers you have already completed. Unfortunately we weren't able to build this for V1.

NARWH4L

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964377#Comment_2964377

I'd believe that is a possible cause, but I can say with absolutely certainty that I have at no point hit the next button more than once. It is at least the very least not only that.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964397#Comment_2964397

OK thanks for this. I will give the engineers your user ID so they can investigate.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964371#Comment_2964371

OK I have an answer from the economy team. The rewards are algorithmically generated based on sourcing resources for specific ranks of champions. One ends at Block 90 and the next doesn't start until Block 93, so Blocks 91 and 92 have less rewards.

Smoky4ii20

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964386#Comment_2964386

What about people that used units to keep playing , not knowing this was happening what will be the compensation for this , because i used some units to keep playing and i believe several entries got lost because of this bug , and just more entries won't help me at all since i reached the cap on the 2 first classes already .

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964405#Comment_2964405

We are investigating how widespread the issue is and will provide guidance once that investigation is complete.

Smoky4ii20

And i belive 6* are doing 0 damage but they are in there and are allowed to be placed in the lineup , if this is something about the Challenge rating , they should be locked out when they get useless and start doing zero damage .

MrNoname

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964386#Comment_2964386

No, I read about that bug and made sure not to hit it more than once. I finished the Saga and more than 10 blocks without this problem, and I didn't lose a single key.

I still had all 10 keys left. Then, I thought I could use my 6-star champion in a block that required 20 champions, only to find that my 6-star dealt 0 damage, so I let myself get knocked out. When I returned to the tower screen, all 10 of my keys were gone instead of just one.

WorldEater

Was removing skill from the equation intentional? This CR mechanic prevents champs from doing any damage at all when CR gap increases, meaning we can no longer use our skill to punch up. Is this a bug? Or was this an intentional part of the design?

Tman865

I made a post earlier about my frustration with the frequent game crashes taking away my keys, I lost 1 fight fair and square and I understand that but the other 9 keys i had all got taken away from me because the game crashed every 10 - 15 mins either mid fight or directly after I won the fight and they still disappeared 1 by 1 it is extremely frustrating because I was looking forward to climbing the leaderboard and now I can't. I know others have mentioned it too so I know it's been made aware of but it is very disappointing.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964414#Comment_2964414

Class Towers deliberately leans into roster power and breadth. Having said that I don't agree that skill has been removed. If two players have equal rosters and spend the same amount of time in the mode the more skilled player will have a higher Tower rating.

As we introduce harder Challenge Towers Tower Rating will further be impacted by skill.

domz56

What is genuinely the point of the 34 fight floors? I get that these floors have low challenge rating to compensate, but just why? Most of the complaints about the game is how grindy it is, and this is just the peak of grindyness? Can we get a counter to see how far through the block we are? At what point do the rewards become end game relevant? Especially with these 34 fight floors, I understand the roster check element, but there is literally nothing I can do if I don;t have 34 skill 7 star champs, and especially not 34 champs that have a nuke rotation, there is nothing skill can do to bridge the gap, unlike in any other game mode. In future more challenging towers will there be a thing where ur progress is saved even if u lose? Like u restart the fight with the defender at the same hp as when u died?

ShashankGupta

I have 3 questions mainly

First one is will this tower replace the sidequest we used to get every month or will sq challange get added to tower every month like we have saga showcase?

Second question is since these class towers are permanent and you get roadblock after certain blocks according to your roster will this feel like old story content mainly like act 6 grandmaster boss where you get roadblock and can only progress until you get the better roster to move forward?

My third question is since we get roadblock after certain blocks how will be able to increase our tower rating? Because if I don't able to clear a block I will not be able to increase our tower rating for more radiance in ranked rewards?

Will there be any way to increase our tower rating like going back to old blocks to increase some tower rating or something like that?

spiderknight616

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964430#Comment_2964430

Isn't that the point though? You progress until you hit a wall, then develop your roster until you are able to complete it. The issue you're facing seems to be by design.

Kabam Crashed

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2964434#Comment_2964434

Towers is taking the spot of Side Quest for the month because we know it's a lot of fights to get through at initial release. That's just for June. We do have some ideas for interesting Towers-based side quests we can run in the future but other types of Side Quest will still be the norm.

Eventually everyone will get roadblocked by some combination of roster and skill. It's not content that can be "beat". Towers are infinite, everybody has a ceiling and that's the point of the mode.

Once you are at your ceiling you can increase your Tower rating by figuring out a way to push higher or by completing new Challenge Towers that we release. We are planning plenty of these once the broader player base reaches their ceiling in the Class Towers.