The REAL Sentinel-Drone issue
Mr_Otter
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Ok now that I’m past my initial shock I am prepared a little more to proper express the root cause of the issue people seem to have with the Seninel Dones.
RANK UPS!
Now initially Voodoo, X23, Wolverine, and Guillotine are all stars in AQ. Now I see Guilly as keeping her niche as GOBLIN enters Map5 making her L2 so much sweeter!
But Wolvy and X23? I don’t see nearly as much use in AQ especially with Seninel Drones just being a hard wall.
And then if we look at Mourning Star (Kabam missed a real good pun) in Map5 it basically answered the Rulk vs LC discussion. People were burning Science T4C and when LC got a huge buff and Rulk got a Damage and Physical Resist boost that no longer lapsed AND became a Mephisto counter I see why a lot more Rulks got boosted. But LC also a good choice could potentially have gotten more priority IF we knew that a forced bleed mystic champ was gonna be a Map5 Mini.
Now I’m not saying new champs undermine older ones. I don’t think anyone has claimed Sabertooth is a retroactive nerf on Iceman. Sabertooth is simply defensively effective against 1 champion. But what happens when you change a quest’s mini bosses to those that need more specialized counters? Or make bleed immune available to HALF the enemies making champions that used to have respectable (if not incredible) DPS vis DoT and have a popular mastery dedicated to them, and make that quest all difficulties of the most important part of the game needed to upgrade champions? That’s like a wide spread version of taking away Mystic/Villain Synergy during AW.
Between EQ, AQ, and AW are the 3 most important progression areas and them up in a way that largely hinders such a universal ability is going to cause backlash even by the most dedicated fans.
(Micro rant: despite the sentinel drones Voodoo, Guilly and AA are going to very needed by mini boss killers thanks to super regen goblin)
RANK UPS!
Now initially Voodoo, X23, Wolverine, and Guillotine are all stars in AQ. Now I see Guilly as keeping her niche as GOBLIN enters Map5 making her L2 so much sweeter!
But Wolvy and X23? I don’t see nearly as much use in AQ especially with Seninel Drones just being a hard wall.
And then if we look at Mourning Star (Kabam missed a real good pun) in Map5 it basically answered the Rulk vs LC discussion. People were burning Science T4C and when LC got a huge buff and Rulk got a Damage and Physical Resist boost that no longer lapsed AND became a Mephisto counter I see why a lot more Rulks got boosted. But LC also a good choice could potentially have gotten more priority IF we knew that a forced bleed mystic champ was gonna be a Map5 Mini.
Now I’m not saying new champs undermine older ones. I don’t think anyone has claimed Sabertooth is a retroactive nerf on Iceman. Sabertooth is simply defensively effective against 1 champion. But what happens when you change a quest’s mini bosses to those that need more specialized counters? Or make bleed immune available to HALF the enemies making champions that used to have respectable (if not incredible) DPS vis DoT and have a popular mastery dedicated to them, and make that quest all difficulties of the most important part of the game needed to upgrade champions? That’s like a wide spread version of taking away Mystic/Villain Synergy during AW.
Between EQ, AQ, and AW are the 3 most important progression areas and them up in a way that largely hinders such a universal ability is going to cause backlash even by the most dedicated fans.
(Micro rant: despite the sentinel drones Voodoo, Guilly and AA are going to very needed by mini boss killers thanks to super regen goblin)
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Wolvie has made AQ an afterthought for a long time. Personally, I'm looking forward to something new.
Star Lord
Scarlet Witch
And so far hyperion
Who says it must be you go fight a morning star mini boss, a BG is made up of 10 players an undoubtedly some will bring bleed immune champs. Simple answer is you wanna a shot at her you bring an immune, if not next person kills hers
I do think the Rulk vs LC debate with Rulk seemingly being slightly more universal thanks to Mephisto and Scarlet Witch kinda adds a little salt as now you need a heavy hitting bleed immune champ who is basically either Iceman or LC (or sentinel if you’re lucky) to help kill one of the Map5 minis
And GG is annoying as sin and a personal nuisance.
Mordo is at least someone people have a counter to on purpose or accident (ice, AA, x23, Drax…) and I don’t think too many people are upset by him specifically
I think it mostly boils down to people upset that the Sentinels are an added challenge yet rewards are the same. Especially as L2 is really painful to slip on and their solid bulk makes the few quick fights between classes or on break a little less brief. Personally I think doing this mid season is a misstep but I was the weirdo using a gem on Ronan and wondering why 5.1 bosses were so much easier than people hyped them up in my alliance
I say that! Resident boss slayer speaking
I’ve killed an EXPERT LAB boss with SL and only 700 health (granted it was beast with only Buffet as a bad node) my alliance jokes about how I have obtained ultra Instinct.
It’s a great change, anyone who still enjoyed Symboids is just not for change.
Champs like wolv and X-23 can still regen, they can still beat a 7k PI-13k PI sentinel EASILY!!!
If you want to fight Morningstar take a bleed immune. If not then don’t. People who boss kill Hyperion usually take a power control champion. Is it unfair of kabam to have had him as map 6 miniboss if someone doesn’t have a power control champ but want to fight the miniboss?
(I’m actually slightly annoyed with the minis rather than the actual sentinels again in
Morning star is NICHE as a boss. If you’re in Map6 and no one in the alliance has Magik I’m throwing your alliance a parade! But a heavy hitting bleed immune is 2 champs and a 3rd that JUST got 1st featured. It’s annoying at best and grueling at worst.
Besides I’m only trying to understand Y half the community hates the Sentinels… please see my other sentinel related input on me ACTIVELY brainstorming counters from Karnak to Medusa!
Damage over time characters also counter goblin, he can’t regen the damage you deal from bleed for example.