Oh my goodness you guys are still going with this? Listen basically every champ in this game can be either Science or tech. Here's why
Mutations are biology, biology is Science
Mystic is powers, which come from mutation, which is biology, which is science.
Cosmic is powers or people from different planets, which have a unique biology making it science.
All skill champs have weapons, guns, flight suits, vibranium suits, swords etc. which is technology, past and present. Therefore those without powers and use gadgets are tech.
One could make a claim that all champs can be cosmic since everything is space. The point is, this is how MCOC categorized the Marvel characters if you have a problem with this go work for them and make the change.
Get over it, Falcon is Skill and Skill is Falcon, and I am hungry,
Oh my goodness you guys are still going with this? Listen basically every champ in this game can be either Science or tech. Here's why
Mutations are biology, biology is Science
Mystic is powers, which come from mutation, which is biology, which is science.
Cosmic is powers or people from different planets, which have a unique biology making it science.
All skill champs have weapons, guns, flight suits, vibranium suits, swords etc. which is technology, past and present. Therefore those without powers and use gadgets are tech.
One could make a claim that all champs can be cosmic since everything is space. The point is, this is how MCOC categorized the Marvel characters if you have a problem with this go work for them and make the change.
Get over it, Falcon is Skill and Skill is Falcon, and I am hungry,
Why’d this get flagged? This is one of the best Forum posts I’ve ever seen.
because the in-game characters should be accurate representations of the characters, and class placement is an important part of it.
or, if you want an efficiency reason, "because class advantage", and class-based items like class iso, sig stones and gems. also, class-specific events
He fits in the skill class. Black widow uses technology when she stuns people, punisher uses technology with his guns, crossbones uses technology with his gauntlets grenades and gun, agent venom uses guns, black panthers suit is 100% technology. There’s arguments to be made for why almost every single character isn’t in a different class.
The reason is, that’s the way they were designed. Falcon is still an accurate representation of him from the comics, yes he uses technology but he still needs a great amount of skill to use that Tech. Plus his basic moves are purely punching and kicking.
Class advantage? So what? He still has a class advantage when he’s in a different class. Iso? Use that iso on a different champ, you can get more of that for his class. Sig stones and gems, see previous sentence. Class specific events, again, so what? Just use a different champion, unless you’re saying that you needed falcon to get a Tech champion but unfortunately he was skill. Everything you’ve mentioned makes no difference on why it matters that he’s skill. I’ll ask again, what’s a good reason as to why it matters?
People just complaining for the sake of complaining.
Let’s rememebe you were against Doc Oc and GG being Tech though instead of Science.
because the in-game characters should be accurate representations of the characters, and class placement is an important part of it.
or, if you want an efficiency reason, "because class advantage", and class-based items like class iso, sig stones and gems. also, class-specific events
He fits in the skill class. Black widow uses technology when she stuns people, punisher uses technology with his guns, crossbones uses technology with his gauntlets grenades and gun, agent venom uses guns, black panthers suit is 100% technology. There’s arguments to be made for why almost every single character isn’t in a different class.
The reason is, that’s the way they were designed. Falcon is still an accurate representation of him from the comics, yes he uses technology but he still needs a great amount of skill to use that Tech. Plus his basic moves are purely punching and kicking.
Class advantage? So what? He still has a class advantage when he’s in a different class. Iso? Use that iso on a different champ, you can get more of that for his class. Sig stones and gems, see previous sentence. Class specific events, again, so what? Just use a different champion, unless you’re saying that you needed falcon to get a Tech champion but unfortunately he was skill. Everything you’ve mentioned makes no difference on why it matters that he’s skill. I’ll ask again, what’s a good reason as to why it matters?
People just complaining for the sake of complaining.
Let’s rememebe you were against Doc Oc and GG being Tech though instead of Science.
So climb down from that high horse you hypocrite
I think you’re “rememebering” wrong my friend. I wasn’t against it per se, I didn’t understand it but I didn’t really mind. In any case, I now realise that it really doesn’t matter what class a champion is if it fits. Falcon works as skill, if he was cosmic then I’d have an issue. I don’t know why you’re being quite so aggressive to me, but I hope you figure out whatever is wrong.
Oh my goodness you guys are still going with this? Listen basically every champ in this game can be either Science or tech.
Technically speaking, everything is either science or magic. Technology is applied science. There's no such thing as non-scientific technology. Gun powder is chemistry. Armor is materials science. Even skill is science: karate is applied physics.
The class divisions are arbitrary game simplifications, and because there's no such thing as technology, skill, or even mutation without science, there will always be some arbitrary blurriness between them. You can make cases for different classifications, but almost all such cases have counterpoint cases.
It is ultimately the judgment of the champion designer, and what he or she wants to emphasize. Guns are technology, but we normally don't consider normal guns to be sufficiently advanced technology to warrant emphasizing their technological aspects. All technology requires some skill to be effective, but in some cases the skill in using the technology is more significant than the capabilities of the technology and vice versa. The designer probably thought that with Falcon his mastery of the technology contributed more to his strength than the capability of the technology. Put any of us in his flight suit and we'd just crash into the ground. On the other hand, even though it takes some skill to use the Iron Man armor it is clear that the vast majority of the total capability of the armor is in its advanced technological capabilities and less in the skill of the user.
That's a judgment call, but those are reasonable judgment calls.
Oh my goodness you guys are still going with this? Listen basically every champ in this game can be either Science or tech.
Technically speaking, everything is either science or magic. Technology is applied science. There's no such thing as non-scientific technology. Gun powder is chemistry. Armor is materials science. Even skill is science: karate is applied physics.
Magic is something you have in your cells, which is Science. Everything in Science can be explained by mathematical formulas, therefore everything is math, and math is an art.
Therefore, Falcon is an art champ and so is everyone else.
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Because Ghost Rider is not immune to incinerate
Mutations are biology, biology is Science
Mystic is powers, which come from mutation, which is biology, which is science.
Cosmic is powers or people from different planets, which have a unique biology making it science.
All skill champs have weapons, guns, flight suits, vibranium suits, swords etc. which is technology, past and present. Therefore those without powers and use gadgets are tech.
One could make a claim that all champs can be cosmic since everything is space. The point is, this is how MCOC categorized the Marvel characters if you have a problem with this go work for them and make the change.
Get over it, Falcon is Skill and Skill is Falcon, and I am hungry,
Why’d this get flagged? This is one of the best Forum posts I’ve ever seen.
Let’s rememebe you were against Doc Oc and GG being Tech though instead of Science.
So climb down from that high horse you hypocrite
I think you’re “rememebering” wrong my friend. I wasn’t against it per se, I didn’t understand it but I didn’t really mind. In any case, I now realise that it really doesn’t matter what class a champion is if it fits. Falcon works as skill, if he was cosmic then I’d have an issue. I don’t know why you’re being quite so aggressive to me, but I hope you figure out whatever is wrong.
Technically speaking, everything is either science or magic. Technology is applied science. There's no such thing as non-scientific technology. Gun powder is chemistry. Armor is materials science. Even skill is science: karate is applied physics.
The class divisions are arbitrary game simplifications, and because there's no such thing as technology, skill, or even mutation without science, there will always be some arbitrary blurriness between them. You can make cases for different classifications, but almost all such cases have counterpoint cases.
It is ultimately the judgment of the champion designer, and what he or she wants to emphasize. Guns are technology, but we normally don't consider normal guns to be sufficiently advanced technology to warrant emphasizing their technological aspects. All technology requires some skill to be effective, but in some cases the skill in using the technology is more significant than the capabilities of the technology and vice versa. The designer probably thought that with Falcon his mastery of the technology contributed more to his strength than the capability of the technology. Put any of us in his flight suit and we'd just crash into the ground. On the other hand, even though it takes some skill to use the Iron Man armor it is clear that the vast majority of the total capability of the armor is in its advanced technological capabilities and less in the skill of the user.
That's a judgment call, but those are reasonable judgment calls.
Magic is something you have in your cells, which is Science. Everything in Science can be explained by mathematical formulas, therefore everything is math, and math is an art.
Therefore, Falcon is an art champ and so is everyone else.